TheMan
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Could have sworn they confirmed that early but maybe not
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Take an early look at PlayStation VR2’s user experience, including see-through view, broadcasting options, and more.
Tripolygon
Member
Sony has their own patent on that
Is this why they have a new lawyer locked and loaded?
Systems and Methods for Detecting and Displaying a Boundary Associated With Player Movement - Sony Interactive Entertainment America LLC
Systems and methods for indicating that a boundary is crossed during execution of a video game are described. One of the methods includes generating, by a camera, a field-of-view, the field-of-view en
Facebook has there's filed on that site aswell. They sound pretty close except sony avoids using the word VR, they both reference the HMD. User/VR vs Player/Game was all that was needed to fool the teacher lol.Sony has their own patent on that
Systems and Methods for Detecting and Displaying a Boundary Associated With Player Movement - Sony Interactive Entertainment America LLC
Systems and methods for indicating that a boundary is crossed during execution of a video game are described. One of the methods includes generating, by a camera, a field-of-view, the field-of-view enwww.freepatentsonline.com
Reallink
Member
While someone smarter than me can calculate the exact PPD of a likely 35-45 FOV virtual cinema screen, it's not really necessary. Each eye is 2K x 2K with an ~90 degree FOV. Half that to a 45 degree virtual screen and you're looking at roughly 1K x 1K. VR displays are still comically low res, resolution has only barely moved in a decade.
Tripolygon
Member
No, you can't patent an idea, you can patent a method of doing something. The word VR and AR is used within the patent and HMD is just a broad term for any headset you wear on your head which makes it broad enough to cover both AR and VR headsets.
ManaByte
Member
Reallink
Member
Sony has their own patent on that
Systems and Methods for Detecting and Displaying a Boundary Associated With Player Movement - Sony Interactive Entertainment America LLC
Systems and methods for indicating that a boundary is crossed during execution of a video game are described. One of the methods includes generating, by a camera, a field-of-view, the field-of-view en
Any such patents would be instantly nullified in court by prior art, which belongs to Valve with their Chaperone system that predates everyone else by several years. The OG Vive in 2016 even had Stereo cameras for pass through and rudimentary depth sensing.
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Tripolygon
Member
Again, you can't patent a general idea, you can patent a method of doing something.
Valve's Chaperone Patent filed Nov 2015
SENSORY FEEDBACK SYSTEMS AND METHODS FOR GUIDING USERS IN VIRTUAL REALITY ENVIRONMENTS - VALVE CORPORATION
Sensory feedback (“chaperoning”) systems and methods for guiding users in virtual/augmented reality environments such as walk-around virtual reality environments are described. Exemplary implementatio
Sixense Entertainment, Inc Patent on the same thing Filed July 2015
US Patent for System and method for assisting a user in remaining in a selected area while the user is in a virtual reality environment Patent (Patent # 9,851,786 issued December 26, 2017) - Justia Patents Search
A method and apparatus is disclosed for assisting a user, wearing a head mounted display (HMD) that covers a user's field of vision and has a tracker providing information regarding the position and orientation of the HMD, in locating a physical controller located on a physical base station. A...
patents.justia.com
Prototype Sony HMD with pass through camera from 2013 which predates OG Vive.
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Yeah, people need to kinda remember that parents are useless until you can get companies or the courts to recognise the fact that other companies are infringing on your patents.
I suspect no one big here is taking anyone to court. There isn't the same level of animosity here as the big cases currently going around e.g. Ericsson vs Apple.
I suspect no one big here is taking anyone to court. There isn't the same level of animosity here as the big cases currently going around e.g. Ericsson vs Apple.
StabbyStabStabStabStab
Member
Speak for yourself - mine were pretty useful.
Have you got another company to back off on infringing on it?
See the second part of my first paragraph
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Reallink
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Which is why no one has or ever will attempt to challenge anyone else in court over this. Being in violation of some aspect of several other critical function patents is guaranteed. Patents are stockpiled as litigation deterrents.Again, you can't patent a general idea, you can patent a method of doing something.
Valve's Chaperone Patent filed Nov 2015
SENSORY FEEDBACK SYSTEMS AND METHODS FOR GUIDING USERS IN VIRTUAL REALITY ENVIRONMENTS - VALVE CORPORATION
Sensory feedback (“chaperoning”) systems and methods for guiding users in virtual/augmented reality environments such as walk-around virtual reality environments are described. Exemplary implementatiowww.freepatentsonline.com
Sixense Entertainment, Inc Patent on the same thing Filed July 2015
US Patent for System and method for assisting a user in remaining in a selected area while the user is in a virtual reality environment Patent (Patent # 9,851,786 issued December 26, 2017) - Justia Patents Search
A method and apparatus is disclosed for assisting a user, wearing a head mounted display (HMD) that covers a user's field of vision and has a tracker providing information regarding the position and orientation of the HMD, in locating a physical controller located on a physical base station. A...
P.S. Valve worked with Sixense during SteamVR development as they were vying to be a VR controller hardware partner. Internally this system no doubt predates both of their filing dates by a probable year or more.
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Salty Popsicle
Member
Yeah, I'm not shelling out $400+ to look like this. Sorry Sony.
Imtjnotu
Member
You already look like the guy on the couch so why not?Yeah, I'm not shelling out $400+ to look like this. Sorry Sony.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
They copied everything the Quest is doing except the most important one. A Wireless option.
Putonahappyface
Member
"Content in Cinematic Mode will be displayed in 1920×1080 HDR", I'll be avoiding watching films on this then no biggie 
. Am I right in thinking the PS5 has a walk around to surf the Internet? I would like to go online with this headset.
. Am I right in thinking the PS5 has a walk around to surf the Internet? I would like to go online with this headset.
ZoukGalaxy
Member
I'm even more excited, give it to meow !
DenchDeckard
Gold Member
So what Ive been doing with my Rift for 5 years?
Cmon Sony, give me the good stuff. This radio silence is just boring.
Cmon Sony, give me the good stuff. This radio silence is just boring.
Matt_Fox
Member
I'm not so sure about that. I've seen AV forum posts that found 4K UHD discs look significantly worse than Blu Ray on a 1080p screen, because they've been downconverted whilst Blu Rays are native.
Here's an example on Highdefdigest https://www.highdefdigest.com/blog/4k-ultrahd-on-a-1080p-display/
It's disappointing that the 'cinema mode' on PSVR2 is stuck in the 1080p era, it's not one for those that appreciate a high level of presentation.
Crayon
Member
God damn this is the one thing I am dying to get. Like I really want a new 7000 series card and I'm eagerly awaiting that, but that really no big deal in comparison. I'm on the edge of my seat for psvr 2.
I like having a hardware button for the pass through. At first glance, I saw just the on screen option and I thought they neglected to put a button.
I like having a hardware button for the pass through. At first glance, I saw just the on screen option and I thought they neglected to put a button.
Salty Popsicle
Member
If I had to pick between the two, the guy on the couch seems like a much better choice.
Reallink
Member
LOL. No one is going to pay a $100 price hike for a 2 year old product. They legit torpedoed themselves, fractionalized their sales. I understand the reasoning, but this is a loss they've got to eat until the Quest 3, where they can price hike it under a guise of spec/technological advances. Imagine the shitstorm of a PS5 or SX increase to $650, that's literally what they're trying. Actually it's much worse, cause the VR market isn't anywhere near as established as the console space.
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a multicultural team of v
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I never really thought about it, but a PS Plus Collection type thing for the VR headset would kind of make sense.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Looks like Sony is doing all the right things with PSVR2 so far.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Yeah, I'm not shelling out $400+ to look like this. Sorry Sony.
Why not? You look that dumb playing regular games behind a keyboard and mouse right now.
El Pistolero
Member
Early 2023 confirmed. I wonder what the price will be? $399 would be the dream, but I see it being sold for $499.
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Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
For me its a limiting factor for VR, i just dont feel like spending money on the VR content available.
Sub services are way more affordable and better value for me.
ManaByte
Member
Yeah, I'm not shelling out $400+ to look like this. Sorry Sony.
sendit
Member
Lol....that seems ass backwards. Quest 2 is using ancient tech.
Rudius
Member
Downsampling improves the image of games, so I thought it would do the same to movies.
A 1080p virtual screen is about the best you can expect for the ~4K panels of PSVR2. To create a 4K virtual screen 8K panels would be needed, or thereabouts.
That said, I expect the virtual cinema to be good with PSVR2, since it has Oled and HDR. Flat games at 1080p/120fps should be ideal for it too.
poppabk
Member
From the article - "I also need to be very clear that these findings are only for downconverting HDR to SDR."
My guess is that a 4k downscale to 1080p in a completely darkened headset with a pseudo distance to the 'screen' will look pretty amazing.
R6Rider
Gold Member
I'd keep it as there are still games that are Quest exclusive or simply won't come to PSVR2.
Unless you really don't use it then by all means.
Ceadeus
Member
Yeah population one and RE4 are pretty neat. Side quest is cool too for Half Life, quake 2 etc
Fredrik
Gold Member
The fun thing with the PS3 is that in the end it was still cheaper than the Xbox 360 if you added the cost of Xbox Live Gold for Xbox since online was free on PS3.
Anyhow, we’ll see what happens but I think they’ll aim as low as they possibly can to make the entry point lower for the mainstream. They might have a highend bundle though, with a disc PS5, camera, headphones. But they’ll market it with a lowend bundle with a digital PS5, possibly without camera and headphones.
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Radical Dreamer
Member
he's looking better than this fat fuck behind him lmaoYeah, I'm not shelling out $400+ to look like this. Sorry Sony.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
That looks like how some acted here when they lost the GoW avatar bet.Yeah, I'm not shelling out $400+ to look like this. Sorry Sony.
Kev Kev
Gold Member
Welp, I know which next gen console I'm buying first. PS5 bitcheeeeesss!! And it's pretty much all because of VR. The first generation of VR was amazing, and I feel lucky to have been along for the ride. I can't wait to see what the 2nd gen has in store. And then you want to talk about 3rd and 4th generation VR, fahgedda'boutit
Too bad I won't be able to get one for another year or two, at best
but still, one day!
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Good they have some of the same convenient features as Quest 2. Quest 2 also has it so you can see a VR version of the controllers and their position. It also has a quick 'Stationary Boundary' circle that's about 6ft in diameter and works well for tight spaces without having to draw in a Roomscale Boundary.
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