Wildebeest
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Gamers don't like to be confused by anything that isn't exactly the same as the same surface level pop culture they were into ten or twenty years ago.
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TGA Game Trailers YouTube Likes/Dislikes Ratio
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Magic Carpet
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IGN has more subscribers than PSN?
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
The 80s kitsch was the takeaway, like I noted in my original post tonally I found the whole thing to be just odd.
Bear in mind the trailer opens with an alien script that is translated into English, hinting at heavy lore. Then it cuts to a gaudy 70's style space exterior (the shattered spiral moon etc.) with a weirdly anachronistic Porsche logo plastered on the back of a space-ship. Then we get our lead shaving her head etc and the next thing I see is the close-up of the panel with the SONY logo at which point I'm thinking is this Cory Barlog's long rumoured project at SSM?
The point being I felt more like I was being hit with some distractingly in-my-face product placement than nostalgia! I'm old enough to have been a teenager in the 80's so the imagery isn't "exotic" to me, for want of a better word!
Its just a mish-mash of elements from around that time that presented with all the wit and subtlety of an adult jangling their keys in an baby's face!
It also didn't help that I'd felt my soul leave my body after the TGA's had crept past the 3hr mark and was basically gutting out the last part of the show! I wasn't at my most receptive or forgiving because I was pretty tired. pissed off, and just wanted the show to end.
So, to answer your question, did I notice? Yes. Did I care though? Not really. It also probably didn't help that although I was into the PSB's back then, I've never liked "It's a Sin." For me it pretty much their first single that left me cold, despite me liking the album and the other singles off it. "What have I Done to deserve This" would've sat way better with me!
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Pegasus Actual
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FeralEcho
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People thinking those massive downvotes on Intergalactic don't mean a thing...you all said the same thing about Suicide Squad and Concord and the nuclear craters left behind from the bombs they became are a testament to what perception can create to your sales.
As an ND game it will still sell millions but you can bet your ass Sony and Naughty Dog are in full blown panic mode right now since they are looking at TLOU levels of success with a thing like this especially after the insane failure of Concord and so far that first impression failed miserably with the masses.
Selling anything short of 10 million is a massive failure for a highprofile game like this from a high profile studio and I can guarantee if this perception persists it will be lucky if it sells 5 million.
As an ND game it will still sell millions but you can bet your ass Sony and Naughty Dog are in full blown panic mode right now since they are looking at TLOU levels of success with a thing like this especially after the insane failure of Concord and so far that first impression failed miserably with the masses.
Selling anything short of 10 million is a massive failure for a highprofile game like this from a high profile studio and I can guarantee if this perception persists it will be lucky if it sells 5 million.
Kotaro
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Yup, games with significantly high dislikes count (or with dislikes more than likes) will end up underperform their sales expectation or downright bomb like what we see with Concord
If Intergalactic audience impression does not change from here, this game will most likely be a disappointment in term of sales
The Witcher 4, even though it has a chunk of dislikes count, about 5-10%, I think it will do just fine
DrumNBassDanTTV
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How is it pathetic? If its the main character surely it matters?
Yoda
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I think ND might be a bit on their high horse here. TLOU2 sold well because it's brand was well deserved. It's sales numbers certainly aren't an endorsement of what's actually there. I think they'll have a hard pill to swallow if this game is in the same realm dev wise cost and pays down the debt of the built in fanbase that was turned of by TLOU2. The trailer was something that'd work in like 2020, not 2025/6.
ElCasual
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Bald Ripley looks like a REAL WOMAN. Not a What the heck is that bald thing?
Bitstream
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Looking like closer to 75% downvotes now for IG.
Personally, I can still be won over with some truly captivating gameplay (yet to be seen), but 80s nostalgia bait and ND brand recognition wont sell the game this time.
Most of us can smell this turd a block away, and it smells like dog shit so far.
Personally, I can still be won over with some truly captivating gameplay (yet to be seen), but 80s nostalgia bait and ND brand recognition wont sell the game this time.
Most of us can smell this turd a block away, and it smells like dog shit so far.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
She looks like an attractive woman with a shaved head to me. I've been very critical of the trailer, but the appearance of Jordan's character isn't the problem, its how she's presented and the context of the reveal.
Like I said, if they'd "read the room" correctly the negativity being so predictable could have been minimized or averted altogether.
Sorry, but its not that dissimilar to the setup for Returnal. And that game, and Selene as a character generally, are fucking great. However even knowing that, it'd get the same reactions from mostly the same people were that revealed in this way/time/place.
Mr. PlayStation
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And the reason you hear the word is because one of the NPC in the cinematic cutscene literally says a bigoted thing. When someone says a bigoted thing to another person and ends up othering, they get called bigot. Yeah?
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Paulistano
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I kind of tired of this kind of protagonist who look depressed, talks depressed and ask for favours like the world is ending and maybe is on anti-depressants but at the same time has a Porshe, use expensive clothes and shoes... very privileged, but if you think about it: it's made for the modern audience... so maybe it fits.
JimmyRustler
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You do know that ND wrote the whole thing and didn’t just tweak a script they’ve been given, right? They wrote this scene for a reason.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Intergalactic is gonna sell gangbusters and all the antiwoke people will have conflicted thoughts because they bought the game too.
March Climber
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Here's one:
Fun movie btw. You should check how the thread started in off-topic vs how it ended.
Oberstein
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Ratio update
Intergalactic
Witcher 4
The controversy surrounding Ciri's face doesn't seem to be working on a large scale. The number of dislikes isn't huge either, especially compared to likes.
On the other hand, Intergalactic is clearly on a very slippery slope. A successful entry is essential. Right now, it's the black sheep.
They're going to have their work cut out to make up for this image... but then, the trailer was really bad and I still think the main character's chara-design is a mess.
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Gaiff
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I dunno. Those dislikes aren’t to be ignored. The fact that it’s ND and their legions of fans couldn’t counterbalance this paints a different picture.
I think in all likelihood, they nail the gameplay and this controversy gets slowly forgotten. If the gameplay isn’t all that amazing, then the controversy could tank it.
DenchDeckard
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We went from bald male protagonist to bald female protag.
Such evolution
Such evolution
JimmyRustler
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That movie was legit indeed. Saw it in cinema.
Here's one:
Fun movie btw. You should check how the thread started in off-topic vs how it ended.
Though I must say ai don’t remember any talk of it being woke. Maybe compared to the source material? Because I don’t know that.
SJRB
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We don’t even know what this game is, how it plays, we don’t know anything.
While most of the discourse is about the character, this was a very poor trailer overall.
March Climber
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There was talk. Go check OT. I want to avoid any potential history re-writing because we have documented evidence.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
I very much doubt this controvesy ius gonna hurt sales in any meaningful way.
Its a new Naughty Dog IP since TLoU on the frikken PS3......while youtube like/dislike ratio is a decent metric its not the end all be all and we should never underestimate Sonys first party giants.
If the game ends up reviewing in the 90+ range people disliking the bald chick arent gonna sway the general consensus that the game is good.
P.S I was also obsessed with Tati in You and can totally understand why that dude was stalking her.
elbourreau
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I very much doubt this controvesy ius gonna hurt sales in any meaningful way.
Its a new Naughty Dog IP since TLoU on the frikken PS3......while youtube like/dislike ratio is a decent metric its not the end all be all and we should never underestimate Sonys first party giants.
If the game ends up reviewing in the 90+ range people disliking the bald chick arent gonna sway the general consensus that the game is good.
P.S I was also obsessed with Tati in You and can totally understand why that dude was stalking her.
Sebastian1295
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Ya there has and it was a game just released recently. Indiana jones was labeled as woke before it launch and then ended up not being woke. Remember when this guy was being memed on here?
Codeblew
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Fuck Intergalactic but I don't understand why "some" people are freaking about about Ciri in Witcher 4, she is an awesome character. Maybe the difference in perception is that Ciri is an established (badass) character and ND is just creating a new ugly bald chick protagonist for "reasons".
JimmyRustler
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Perhaps… but perhaps it was only due to the fact that Indi was such an established IP and it already nosedived with the last movie.Ya there has and it was a game just released recently. Indiana jones was labeled as woke before it launch and then ended up not being woke. Remember when this guy was being memed on here?
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VulcanRaven
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This is basically the same thing as review bombing. People who are angry about something are more likely to click thumbs down. I don't remember the last time I liked a video.
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Kotaro
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For comparison
Here's the ratio for Concord trailer when the characters were revealed = 84% dislikes
Here's the current Intergalactic = 66% dislikes
Here's Yotei first reveal, this is more like Witcher 4 ratio where about 8-10% dislikes
Ignore the signs at your own peril, We've seen it with Star Wars: Outlaws, Concord, Dragon Age: Veilguard, Assassin's Creed: Shadows (not released yet, but who wants to bet on its success now???)
Here's the ratio for Concord trailer when the characters were revealed = 84% dislikes
Here's the current Intergalactic = 66% dislikes
Here's Yotei first reveal, this is more like Witcher 4 ratio where about 8-10% dislikes
Ignore the signs at your own peril, We've seen it with Star Wars: Outlaws, Concord, Dragon Age: Veilguard, Assassin's Creed: Shadows (not released yet, but who wants to bet on its success now???)
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BbMajor7th
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Woke is the colonisation of mass media by the metropolitan middle classes, who only came here when they realised how much money they could make. They're now hard at work depleting all the natural resources and attempting to civilise the godless natives.
Anti-woke is just a bunch of people saying 'I don't really like this whole invasion thing'.
Kotaro
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The gamers just erased CONCORD, what you call Sony's first party giant, out of existence; rejected a Star Wars game and a game with established brand, Dragon Age;
It's developers who shouldn't underestimate the gamers, their consumers. We still have endless supplies of Asian games to play, it's the developers who have to spend 200-300 million dollars to make games and to make us want to buy their games
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Firewalk was never one of Sony first party giants.
Naughty Dog, Guerilla, Santa Monica, Polyphony...hell id even put Suckerpunch in there.
If Ghost of Yotei fails, ill reconsider my stance, otherwise Sonys giants basically never miss, even Shadowfall was still considered a success.
SF Kosmo
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Concord and Suicide Squad were bad live service games that nobody wanted. That is why they bombed. Not because of YouTube down votes or a bunch needledicks panicking about DEI.
Naughty Dog's thing will almost certainly be good and sell some of the highest numbers on the system.
Kotaro
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gimme a break, most of Sony first party IPs are mediocre
Heimdall_Xtreme
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And Okami 2, Ninja gaiden ?Elden Ring: NightReign
Onimusha: The Way of The Sword
The Witcher 4
Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet
Borderlands 4
What is the report?
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Heimdall_Xtreme
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xenosys
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The like to dislike ratio on these ND trailers will have some impact come release day, but they're a huge, established studio with a large fanbase behind them.
TLOU2 was a largely divisive title and it's still sold over 10m copies, with more to come when the PC version releases. It will affect sales, like it did with TLOU2 compared to TLOU1 but they also have a lot of fans to offset the negativity, so will still sell millions of copies.
Unlike Concord.
TLOU2 was a largely divisive title and it's still sold over 10m copies, with more to come when the PC version releases. It will affect sales, like it did with TLOU2 compared to TLOU1 but they also have a lot of fans to offset the negativity, so will still sell millions of copies.
Unlike Concord.
Kotaro
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
No one in the 21 century uses that word except members of era.
That's why we eye roll every time we hear it.
Chuck Berry
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TheRedRiders
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I’m mostly indifferent on the whole woke thing, but let’s not pretend that there’s been a trend in recent years both in media, Hollywood and gaming in which the feminine is masculinised, because the people who push this stuff believe the only way to portray women as strong is through masculine traits such as physical strength, assertiveness, tomboy-ish behaviour. The feminine is killed ironically by those claiming to support it.
I know it sounds abstract and philosophical to some extent but it’s the best way to describe this phenomenon.
I know it sounds abstract and philosophical to some extent but it’s the best way to describe this phenomenon.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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For comparison
Here's the ratio for Concord trailer when the characters were revealed = 84% dislikes
Here's the current Intergalactic = 66% dislikes
Here's Yotei first reveal, this is more like Witcher 4 ratio where about 8-10% dislikes
Ouch.
