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The Dualsense is a more elegant controller than the xbox core controller.
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nightmare-slain
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nah i think ps controllers are awful. xbox for life. for me it's the asymmetrical sticks and AA battery support. and of course since i play on PC xbox controllers just work. with PS controllers you gotta jump through hoops.
PS4/5 controllers have awful battery life. with my XB controller i can swap out the batteries for fully charged ones in a few seconds. if i want to keep playing with a PS controller i gotta wire it up and sit close to my 55" tv, wait for it to recharge and not play, or buy a second controller that i need to make sure is always charged incase my other one dies.
sorry but Sony need to catch up with MS controllers.
PS4/5 controllers have awful battery life. with my XB controller i can swap out the batteries for fully charged ones in a few seconds. if i want to keep playing with a PS controller i gotta wire it up and sit close to my 55" tv, wait for it to recharge and not play, or buy a second controller that i need to make sure is always charged incase my other one dies.
sorry but Sony need to catch up with MS controllers.
Majima Everywhere System
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They are both good. On added all the tech, one is good to hold.
Tams
Member
FFS, do we need to batter you over the head with wrong that is?
REDRZA MWS
Member
Good thing I’ve been using the same eneloops’s for years and years and the battery life shits on the internal batteries on any other controller. Also, it’s nice to not have a totally useless piece of garbage when the internal battery stops holding a charge.
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
havent used a dualsense but the Xbox core controller is fucking peak as far as i'm concerned. it felt a bit weird after using my 360 but eventually i got used to it.
I love the gigantic triggers, the clicky buttons/dpad (so many dpads like to be mushy or soft to the touch, i hate that so a clicky DPAD is far superior imo. plus they have nice long travel, unlike the DS2/DS3 where the dpad travel is kind of short and makes it hard to tell if i've fully pressed the button), the asymmetrical sticks, the only issues i have are the loud noise, lack of gyroscope and small thumbsticks (the DS2 have some gigantic thumbsticks, they're convex but they feel really good to use. the 360's thumbsticks were also big too so seeing them be so small on the newer controller is kind of a downgrade). Personally i don't mind the AA support but each controller should come with a rechargable battery so you have more options.
For symmetrical stick controllers i use the 8bitdo SN30 pro plus. 8bitdo's controllers don't get enough love, third party prices but first party quality. the Dpad is great but very oddly sensitive to diagonal inputs and the travel isn't great. it's far superior for 2d games though.
I love the gigantic triggers, the clicky buttons/dpad (so many dpads like to be mushy or soft to the touch, i hate that so a clicky DPAD is far superior imo. plus they have nice long travel, unlike the DS2/DS3 where the dpad travel is kind of short and makes it hard to tell if i've fully pressed the button), the asymmetrical sticks, the only issues i have are the loud noise, lack of gyroscope and small thumbsticks (the DS2 have some gigantic thumbsticks, they're convex but they feel really good to use. the 360's thumbsticks were also big too so seeing them be so small on the newer controller is kind of a downgrade). Personally i don't mind the AA support but each controller should come with a rechargable battery so you have more options.
For symmetrical stick controllers i use the 8bitdo SN30 pro plus. 8bitdo's controllers don't get enough love, third party prices but first party quality. the Dpad is great but very oddly sensitive to diagonal inputs and the travel isn't great. it's far superior for 2d games though.
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
it would but the lack of analog triggers are a big turnoff to me. it does nearly everything perfect but without those racing games are just impossible to truly experience right
GHG
Member
The dualsense is currently the best all round controller available at the moment. Just ordered another one for dedicated PC use so I don't have to swap my current 2 between 3 devices (ps5 and 2 PC's).
The current iteration of the standard xbox controller feels like a toy in comparison. Doesn't help that it requires AA batteries as well in that sense.
The current iteration of the standard xbox controller feels like a toy in comparison. Doesn't help that it requires AA batteries as well in that sense.
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Doesnt need recognition
On a more serious note.. I'm surely not the only one disappointed when I found out that the "core" controllers for both the PS5 and XboxSSX didn't came with back buttons/pedals.
Games nowadays well since the introduction of a manually controlled camera on the right stick which many games uses if not needs therefore occupying your right thumb which therefore makes being in control of what you're looking at and pressing face buttons a less than smooth experience.
Go play Doom Eternal or Halo Infinite and you NEED those extra 2 or 4 buttons to play the game in some way that compliments it's gameplay.
Sucks ass.
Games nowadays well since the introduction of a manually controlled camera on the right stick which many games uses if not needs therefore occupying your right thumb which therefore makes being in control of what you're looking at and pressing face buttons a less than smooth experience.
Go play Doom Eternal or Halo Infinite and you NEED those extra 2 or 4 buttons to play the game in some way that compliments it's gameplay.
Sucks ass.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
BTW I FUCKING LOVE the satellite DPAD so much. Sony needs to take notes, that thing is amazing. They took the 360 DPAD and shifted it from a disgusting terrible embarassment of a directional input into a beautiful reinvention of the Dpad. perfectly usable for cardinal directions but makes performing quarter circles feel so fucking good in the hands. that should be the new style of dpad from now on because i love it.
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Doesnt need recognition
Fair enough... But sometimes when I'm walking in the Dutch landscape the wind carries your whispers softly into my ear: "wow this feels soooo good" It makes me chuckle and sad at the same time...
Real men need a symmetrical thumbsticks...
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Con-Z-epT
Gold Member
I can adjust to both but used the symmetrical layout more. It bothers me more when I play some old-school games that use the dpad in an asymmetrical position. For shooters and the likes it doesn't make a difference for me.
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HeisenbergFX4
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TheGodfather07
Member
While the xbox controller is as good as its ever been, it's still the same basic controller we've had since 360. There's been no advancements. So yeah, sony done well with the way they have changed up their controller over the years. Playing astrobot with the dualsense felt like a new generation experience. Even the normal rumble is better than other controllers. I expect Microsoft will include some of this tech in their next controller.
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Tams
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22•22
Doesnt need recognition
GhostNTheBashShell
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It's all preference, use what you want who TF cares.
TheGodfather07
Member
Then use this GOAT:
If only it had a gyro, analogue triggers, and back buttons/paddles.
Analogue stick above the buttons is awkward as fuck for me. I just can't get used to it.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Loved that pad, but hated the gloss finish.Then use this GOAT:
If only it had a gyro, analogue triggers, and back buttons/paddles.
Roxkis_ii
Member
I agree with Op, the duelsence feels like a next gen controller. Like when Playstation 1 controllers got the analog sticks and rumble.
I'm not a fan of Xbox controllers. They aren't bad in use, but having to buy a rechargeable battery pack separately is crazy to me. If they came with the option for both, it wouldn't be a big deal, but it seems like Microsoft getting is getting kickbacks from battey companies to keep pushing disposable batteries.
Also, the DualSense and the Ds4 are some of the easiest Electronics to swap the internal batteries from. All you need is a screwdriver.
I'm not a fan of Xbox controllers. They aren't bad in use, but having to buy a rechargeable battery pack separately is crazy to me. If they came with the option for both, it wouldn't be a big deal, but it seems like Microsoft getting is getting kickbacks from battey companies to keep pushing disposable batteries.
Also, the DualSense and the Ds4 are some of the easiest Electronics to swap the internal batteries from. All you need is a screwdriver.
gaming_again
Member
The Xbox face buttons stick up too much so often when I roll my thumb across them I don't press hard enough for the hit to register. It's very frustrating in games like Sekiro or Elden Ring.
Still not played on a PS5 but I love my PS4 controller.
Still not played on a PS5 but I love my PS4 controller.
GHG
Member
Not fussed tbh, by the time battery drain issues become a thing there will be a new generation of controllers available.
Kataploom
Member
I'm not too into fighting games but for some platformers they are good, I had complaints about the click they make but now I have mixed feelings about it lol iirc it's there because they use the same mechanism of mechanical keyboard keys to boost precision and responsiveness
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HeisenbergFX4
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Neither system really bothers me as I just have multiple dualsense and if they battery dies I just grab the other off the stand.
I have a sad admission to make I hope the new edge controller fits on the same charging stand as I ordered a second one since I am enjoying COD MW2 more on the PS5 than Xbox I will need two of those but waited to make sure people didn't miss out before I ordered a second since they were staying in stock
cormack12
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Magic Carpet
Member
I gave up on the chargeing stand because it never stays connected. I would need to put the dock high up on a shelf away from kids or else it gets knocked off just a smidge and didn't charge. Now I'm stuck with two dead controllers.
Now I just keep a USB C cable laying where the dock used to be and plug the damn thing in.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
I could see that as it is very easy to knock off charge on the Sony stand
I really like how PDP designed one of their charging stations to lay flat and you lay the controller totally flat as it really takes a decent shot to knock it off charge
Punished Miku
Gold Member
The Dual Sense is significantly better. Buttons aren't clicky. Better rumble. Gyro control.
Shit battery though.
Shit battery though.
TheGodfather07
Member
The dualshock 4 is also a super comfortable controller. Sinks into your hands so naturally with all buttons in easy reach. That and 360 controller are the most comfortable controller I've ever used. Dualsense is the overall best though.
thatsafakewebsitebro
Neo Member
There’s preferences, and then there’s whatever this take is. Like c’mon bro. In what world does this make any sense. lol.
SirTerry-T
Member
Do they specifically have to be from 1980 or can I use ones made after then?
I'm new to all this so just checking.
Dualsense is so so far superior it’s very frustrating, given how many studios owning IP I love have gone to xbox. I even hold out on playing quite a few gamespass games and buy them instead on ps5 just because of the Dualsense.
It’s not like I didn’t try, bought the elite, and whilst the density/weight feels nice in the hand it’s just not as nice to use, and the rumble is so terrible I had to turn it off.
Microsoft really need to release and then enforce a feature set akin to the Dualsense.
It’s not like I didn’t try, bought the elite, and whilst the density/weight feels nice in the hand it’s just not as nice to use, and the rumble is so terrible I had to turn it off.
Microsoft really need to release and then enforce a feature set akin to the Dualsense.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
If you believe the rumor mill improved haptics is in the works and likely to first appear on an Elite Series 3
YeulEmeralda
Member
An elegant weapon for a more civilized age.
GHG
Member
It is. You literally just have to connect the controller (Bluetooth or wired) while steam is open, it detects the controller and sets the profile up for you.
There's also this which is a great utility to make full use of the features:
That would be great, hope they also add a speaker. Then I won’t be annoyed at having to play bethesda games on the series X, or feel like cross platform games in gamespass are “a lesser experience”. Will definitely get better value for money from my gamespass sub in that case. As it happens I’ve not turned the thing on in months. Tho between monkey island, Somerville and scorn, I think I finally have some reasons to boot it up and binge a few.
Batiman
Member
How does it make sense? PlayStation had it right until they decided to shoehorn in two sticks back in the PlayStation days. They put them wherever they fit at the time and just stuck with it. The 4 face buttons should be priority for your right thumb for most games. And for shooters the right stick it’s to low.
Give anyone a that hasn’t played on a controller and see how they naturally place there hands on a controller
Thebonehead
Gold Member
The real GOAT
What could have been ...........
What could have been ...........
coffinbirth
Member
They're both trash.
I made this point earlier. It will end up being standard or have back button attachments to purchase separately and all controllers will need an internal battery because a pack or AAs won’t fit. The back button for DS4 was a great accessory.
Why not try the back button kits from Amazon? It’s easy and you don’t need to solder if you don’t need lr 3.