Tiamat2san
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Super Nintendo Switch.
1080p in portable mode, 1440p docked and i would be happy.
1080p in portable mode, 1440p docked and i would be happy.
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The Next Nintendo console enigma!
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Calling 911 Melts Beams
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The Next Nintendo console enema*
Sorcerer
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Nintendo have put themselves in a corner, (a very good corner). I'm one to think that the fans would be thrilled just to have more of the same with more (but still rather dated) power. I can't really imagine how they could possibly drop the portable/docked idea. Now that Zelda's out it should be a good indication a version of Totk is being made that will launch with the new system. I'm guessing March 2024.
Woopah
Member
At this point unfortunately games just take too long to make for it to be viable for Nintendo to properly support two seperate ecosystems.
UltimaKilo
Gold Member
Sure, and then have it fail like the Wii U did? Nintendo doesn’t have the $ to have another major flop. They should delay moving on for as long as they can keep sales up: Switch 4K, price drop, etc. and see if they can punt until late 2025/26
NightmareFarm
Member
The major difference is the Wii looked repulsive to gamers in 2012 whereas the Switch doesn't have that same tarnished reputation in 2023 as it isn't the same kiddie shovelware console.
UltimaKilo
Gold Member
You’re in a bubble. The Wii was a huge success.
Sleepwalker
Member
True, I expect Nintendo to literally be the last company on earth to leave physical media behind.
NightmareFarm
Member
Yes because it drew in a lot of casuals, who moved on to smartphones and tablets after the 7th gen stretch. Then there are some hardcore games who brought it to see what it would feel like and got put off.
UltimaKilo
Gold Member
The market has grown, by a lot. I’m almost a casual nowadays.
Astral Dog
Member
You think you know something Nintendon't? they been going about how raw power is not the only thing that matters for 3 generations
nobody knows how the Switch 2 is going to perform or even what kind of innovation it has
Nintendo knows the game they are playing is a risk,and they can't rest easy thinking simply having more power is enough,but they are smart enough to know their market at least, and that quality games sell
nobody knows how the Switch 2 is going to perform or even what kind of innovation it hasNintendo knows the game they are playing is a risk,and they can't rest easy thinking simply having more power is enough,but they are smart enough to know their market at least, and that quality games sell
This is a popular narrative but ... just tell me what experiences on smartphone replaced Wii Sports or Wii Play. Words with Friends or Angry Birds are vastly different experiences.
The real truth is that nobody - not even Nintendo - wanted to continue down the path of providing games for that audience.
NightmareFarm
Member
It doesn't matter if the experience isn't exactly the same, smartphones stole the casual market which is why the Wii U's name is a big reason why it flopped. "Why pay $300 for a new wii when i can just play angry birds on my smartphones with friends?" Then there's also the fact that everyone, including casuals thought the Wii was the lamest kiddish console in existance which certainly didn't help.
onnextflix5
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3 to 5 TF DLSS
what planet you on bro,We will be lucky if they get anywhere near steam deck performance,
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DiegoAndrad
Member
A Switch 2 with cutting-edge hardware would be very interesting. Sadly, I don't think it's gonna happen.
Quantum253
Member
How about the Nintendo Flip
Deerock71
Member
This is frankly ludicrous.
Self_Destructive
Member
The reason why Switch is such a successful console while the WiiU wasn't... is because it's far more traditional. The WiiU was just far too gimmicky. Sure the Switch builds off those gimmicks... but fundamentally, the thing can be used like a traditional console... and players also understand that you can play your games on the go, just as a traditional handheld console as well.
My point, is that as long as Nintendo releases something that can be played in a traditional way... the "power" of the device does not matter in the slightest. The games are what have people purchase Nintendo devices... and there's no sign that Nintendo is going to stop developing hit games of their best IPs any time soon. So a Switch 2 with a modest bump in power, and improved form factor, comfort, and other quality of life aspects.... will absolutely be a monster.
It will be hard to fair for them if they stick close to what is absolutely working for them.
My point, is that as long as Nintendo releases something that can be played in a traditional way... the "power" of the device does not matter in the slightest. The games are what have people purchase Nintendo devices... and there's no sign that Nintendo is going to stop developing hit games of their best IPs any time soon. So a Switch 2 with a modest bump in power, and improved form factor, comfort, and other quality of life aspects.... will absolutely be a monster.
It will be hard to fair for them if they stick close to what is absolutely working for them.
Kazzz1896
Neo Member
You lost me when you decided to talk shit about Apple Phones users! Obviously you use an Android and that’s cool!
Cyberpunkd
Member
https://www.psu.com/news/ps5-sales-in-the-us-are-tracking-ahead-of-ps4-on-a-time-aligned-basis/
And that includes first 24 months of the console being on a permanent shortage and sold out everywhere.
Yoda
Member
Sadly not going to happen
. They'd make less money that way.2024/2025 "pro" or "2" branded switch with full backwards compat would probably be fine. Nearly all devs will target both devices for a few years. Switch pro can entice buyers with 60FPS and better image quality. Doesn't seem like a grand idea?
existensmaximum
Member
Am I the only one who thinks OP is 100% on point?
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
No, I agree as well. After six years, most people had enough of the Switch. The novelty of the hybrid concept has worn off. I'd surprised if they continued with just an upgrade of the inner parts of this thing and call it a day. Would be very un-Nintendo to do. They got to have something new to offer, may that be VR or something else. It'd also address their problem with piracy/emulation which they see as a huge pain in the ass I'm sure.
Moses85
Member
WiiSwitchU please
TrebleShot
Member
Honestly they could still have the switch going for at least another two years if they wanted to.
I’m pretty blown away with what they did with TOTK on the device and let’s be honest that game is probably the most innovative game to come along in 10 years.
The 30fps is absolutely fine on a handheld.
I’m pretty blown away with what they did with TOTK on the device and let’s be honest that game is probably the most innovative game to come along in 10 years.
The 30fps is absolutely fine on a handheld.
Hero of Spielberg
Member
I'm here for the Nintendo enema
UltimaKilo
Gold Member
That they’re not a very large company? Well, their only income is from video games, which is why their entire market cap is only $50 billion.
Marvel14
Banned
They just made a $1billion movie. And successful theme parks, as well as a console with Wii levels of commercial success. Pretty sure they're in the strongest position ever financially to have another major flop.
Tarin02543
Member
An enhanced dock would be cool, play next gen switch games in tv mode or buy the enhanced portable if you desire gaming on the go
Woopah
Member
The mobile market did affect the casual market in that it made the appeal of a touchscreen less unique.
But the actual casual market itself is alive and well. If you look at the games that were popular with the casual audience on Wii (Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Mario Party 8, Mario Kart 8, Mario Galaxy etc.) they almost all have successful sequels or spiritual successors on Switch.
One of Wii U's big problems was that it didn't have enough games to appeal to that wider audience. The Switch does.
Why do you think most people have had enough of Switch?
They would be fine with another flop. They don’t lose money on the consoles themselves and even with their flops, they are typically profitable. Even the low times of the Wii U were profitable. They are stock piling money with the hardware and software sales of the switch. Add in movies and then parks to their switch success and they should be good for a little while.
NightmareFarm
Member
But those spiritual successors didn't sell anywhere near as they did on the Wii. The top selling games are games like Smash bros, Mario kart, etc. Not games like 1 2 switch or Arms.
Woopah
Member
Ring Fit Adventure is over 15 million and Switch Sports is at nearly 10 million. So clearly there's a significant market for these types of games. I don't think they'll hit the highs of the Wii series, but the market is far from collapse.
Plus titles like Mario Kart, Mario platformers and Animal Crossing were also huge with the casual audience on Wii and DS, and they are still going strong today.
MonkeyClaw36
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You will not be missed.
Mr Hyde
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UltimaKilo
Gold Member
They “partnered” to make those things… gave out licenses with creative oversight. Again, $50 Billion is nothing to sneeze at, but it’s not a company with a ton of reserves where they can easily withstand a commercial failure in their primary business.
They’re not Apple, Microsoft or even SNY.
Ev1L AuRoN
Member
I wish Nintendo had the balls to go with x86-64 SoC even if it isn't that powerful, just to facilitate ports from other systems. I image something like the steam deck with lower clock/power profile. But using Zen3+RDNA3. I pay 499 for a system like that, you can make a slim SKU a la Switch mini with an even lower power profile and portable only.
Yes I know, Nintendo would never do that, I'm just dreaming. All I want from the next-gen system is an evolution, not a revolution, keep the Switch formula Nintendo!
Yes I know, Nintendo would never do that, I'm just dreaming. All I want from the next-gen system is an evolution, not a revolution, keep the Switch formula Nintendo!
Walter Matthau
Member
They probably redesign the joycons a bit and adjust the form factor, but it'll essentially be a more powerful Switch. Maybe this time they'll have an additional SKU for those that don't play handheld at all.
If they want to accelerate the migration from Switch to Switch 2, they just need to make sure it's backwards compatible and ideally have upgrade patches for select games and smart delivery for cross gen titles.
If they want to accelerate the migration from Switch to Switch 2, they just need to make sure it's backwards compatible and ideally have upgrade patches for select games and smart delivery for cross gen titles.
Woopah
Member
Sticking with Nvidia and therefore getting DLSS will be more helpful I would say.
The leaked specs indicate that it should exceed the PS4 at the very least.
Mhmmm 2077
Member
I bet they will do some weird shit like "Swiitch" or "Switch Too!", implying it's a new thing, but also is backwards compatible with the original Switch.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Anecdotal evidence, personal experiences. Everyone I know that owns one wouldn't get excited over a successor having the exact same features with nothing more to show than faster hardware.
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