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curls

Wake up Sheeple, your boring insistence that Obama is not a lizardman from Atlantis is wearing on my patience 💤
WikiLeaks cables suggest Burma is building secret nuclear sites

Fears of bomb plan as witnesses tell US embassy that North Koreans are involved with underground facility in jungle

Witnesses in Burma claim to have seen evidence of secret nuclear and missile sites being built in remote jungle, according to secret US diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks, heightening concerns that the military regime is seeking to develop nuclear weapons.

A Burmese officer quoted in a cable from the US embassy in Burma said he had witnessed North Korean technicians helping to construct an underground facility in foothills more than 300 miles (480km) north-west of Rangoon.

"The North Koreans, aided by Burmese workers, are constructing a concrete-reinforced underground facility that is '500ft from the top of the cave to the top of the hill above'," according to the cable. The man is quoted as saying the North Koreans were "blowing concrete" into the excavation.


An expatriate businessman told the embassy in Rangoon he had seen a large barge carrying reinforced steel bar of a diameter that suggested a project larger than a factory. Other informants included dockworkers, who reported suspicious cargo.

The reports add rare detail to rumours that have circulated since 2002, most recently from a military defector this year, that Burma is covertly seeking a nuclear bomb with the help of North Korea. Both countries have strenuously denied this in the past and Burma insists there are no North Koreans in the country.

The cables will compound existing international concern over Iranian and North Korean nuclear programmes, and show why Barack Obama has made nuclear non-proliferation one of the central planks of his foreign policy.

According to the witness accounts, pieced together by US embassy staff, the work is at an early stage and haphazard. But they regard it as a troubling development, with the risk that Burma could join Pakistan, North Korea and possibly Iran in having a nuclear bomb.

In a cable dated August 2004 titled "Alleged North Korean involvement in missile assembly and underground facility construction in Burma", one of the embassy staff wheedled information from an officer during a visit to Rangoon. The officer was in an engineering unit working at the site, where surface-to-air missiles were allegedly being assembled. The site is the Irrawaddy river town of Minbu in Magwe division, west-central Burma.

The officer said 300 North Koreans were working at the site, though the embassy, in its cable back to Washington, described this as improbably high. The officer "claims he has personally seen some of them, although he also reported they are forbidden from leaving the construction site and that he and other 'outsiders' are prohibited from entering".


According to a 2009 cable, a well-placed source within the Burmese government last year made an apparently indiscreet remark to the Australian ambassador that the agreement with Russia was just for "software, training" and the North Korea agreement was for "hardware".

The source said General Thura Shwe Mann, who had overall command of military activity, visited North Korea in 2008. The source backtracked six months later, insisting that the talks with North Korea were only exploratory.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/09/wikileaks-cables-burma-nuclear-weapons
 

Brannon

Member
Shell Game Deluxe

Holy motherfucker of godDAMN!

Dear Nigeria,

I hate that you don't clamp down on your scam artists; I despise you for it. But if you were to somehow root out Shell and kick them out of your country, I would gain massive amounts of respect for you. Because they are raping you without a reach around if even a bit of that is true.
 

Ether_Snake

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/dec/09/wikileaks-us-embassy-cables-live-updates

The 'you ask, we search' exercise announced earlier by Alan Rusbridger continues to generate some fascinating ideas for mining the US embassy cables. Nearly 500 messages have been received since lunchtime, and the volume is picking up again fast this evening. So far, we have whittled these down to around 100 promising leads for further investigation, throwing up references on everything from rendition flights and economic predictions for Ireland to mentions of David Beckham and Roman Polanski. We have a small team of journalists running the suggestions through the database looking for relevant cables and will report back on the findings over the next few days. The best way to alert us to ideas is on Twitter by messaging @gdncables. Twitter refuseniks can post on the thread below (not ideal, but we'll try to keep up) and we will continue the exercise in a blog tomorrow.

Can't wait for this. They talked about publishing stuff on the Mccann investigation. Many people believe that the McCanns indirectly "sold" their daughter Madeleine, so it will be interesting to see what the cables might be saying.
 

Lard

Banned
Croatia
WikiLeaks cables: Former Croatia PM flees over corruption claims
US embassy cables catalogued sleaze at heart of government of Ivo Sanader, who resigned suddenly last year

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/09/wikileaks-cables-croatia-pm-corruption

WikiLeaks cables suggest Burma is building secret nuclear sites
Fears of bomb plan as witnesses tell US embassy that North Koreans are involved with underground facility in jungle

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/09/wikileaks-cables-burma-nuclear-weapons
 
We knew that Burma had a nuclear weapons program, it's just proceeding at an extremely slow rate. If nothing is done about in the next 15-20 years and the junta remains in power, that situation could explode. But I doubt China will permit another North Korea to sprout up on its border.
 

Lard

Banned
Operation Leakspin has begun

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/09/anonymous-stops-drop.html

If this image is to be believed—and I have no reason not to, other than that I found it on the internet—the rebel squadrons behind Anonymous (attn. "news" hacks - that would be an entirely different group from Wikileaks and/or Wikipedia) are about to change their approach. So far, as we've witnessed, they have been launching point-and-click distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks at companies perceived as the enemies of Wikileaks. Those targets included Mastercard, Paypal, and Visa (companies that froze donation funding), and Amazon (which denied hosting services). The new approach suggests more sophisticated thinking. This new mission, apparently, is to actually read the cables Wikileaks has published and find the most interesting bits that haven't been publicized yet, then publicize them.

In my opinion, this action would have far more positive impact. Anonymous often repeats the Orwell quote, "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."


Sounds like a plan
 

EvilMario

Will QA for food.
WikiLeaks: Texas Company Helped Pimp Little Boys To Stoned Afghan Cops

http://blogs.houstonpress.com/hairballs/2010/12/wikileaks_texas_company_helped.php

​Another international conflict, another horrific taxpayer-funded sex scandal for DynCorp, the private security contractor tasked with training the Afghan police.
While the company is officially based in the DC area, most of its business is managed on a satellite campus at Alliance Airport north of Fort Worth. And if one of the diplomatic cables from the WikiLeaks archive is to be believed, boy howdy, are their doings in Afghanistan shady.

The Afghanistan cable (dated June 24, 2009) discusses a meeting between Afghan Interior Minister Hanif Atmar and US assistant ambassador Joseph Mussomeli. Prime among Atmar's concerns was a party partially thrown by DynCorp for Afghan police recruits in Kunduz Province.

Many of DynCorp's employees are ex-Green Berets and veterans of other elite units, and the company was commissioned by the US government to provide training for the Afghani police. According to most reports, over 95 percent of its $2 billion annual revenue comes from US taxpayers.

And in Kunduz province, according to the leaked cable, that money was flowing to drug dealers and pimps. Pimps of children, to be more precise. (The exact type of drug was never specified.)

Since this is Afghanistan, you probably already knew this wasn't a kegger. Instead, this DynCorp soiree was a bacha bazi ("boy-play") party, much like the ones uncovered earlier this year by Frontline.



For those that can't or won't click the link, bacha bazi is a pre-Islamic Afghan tradition that was banned by the Taliban. Bacha boys are eight- to 15-years-old. They put on make-up, tie bells to their feet and slip into scanty women's clothing, and then, to the whine of a harmonium and wailing vocals, they dance seductively to smoky roomfuls of leering older men.

After the show is over, their services are auctioned off to the highest bidder, who will sometimes purchase a boy outright. And by services, we mean anal sex: The State Department has called bacha bazi a "widespread, culturally accepted form of male rape." (While it may be culturally accepted, it violates both Sharia law and Afghan civil code.)

For Pashtuns in the South of Afghanistan, there is no shame in having a little boy lover; on the contrary, it is a matter of pride. Those who can afford the most attractive boy are the players in their world, the OG's of places like Kandahar and Khost. On the Frontline video, ridiculously macho warrior guys brag about their young boyfriends utterly without shame.

So perhaps in the evil world of Realpolitik, in which there is apparently no moral compass US private contractors won't smash to smithereens, it made sense for DynCorp to drug up some Pashtun police recruits and turn them loose on a bunch of little boys. But according to the leaked document, Atmar, the Afghani interior minister, was terrified this story would catch a reporter's ear.

He urged the US State Department to shut down a reporter he heard was snooping around, and was horrified that a rumored videotape of the party might surface. He predicted that any story about the party would "endanger lives." He said that his government had arrested two Afghan police and nine Afghan civilians on charges of "purchasing a service from a child" in connection with the party, but that he was worried about the image of their "foreign mentors," by which he apparently meant DynCorp. American diplomats told him to chill. They apparently had a better handle on our media than Atmar, because when a report of the party finally did emerge, it was neutered to the point of near-falsehood.

The UK Guardian picks up the tale:

US diplomats cautioned against an "overreaction" and said that approaching the journalist involved would only make the story worse.
"A widely-anticipated newspaper article on the Kunduz scandal has not appeared but, if there is too much noise that may prompt the journalist to publish," the cable said.
The strategy appeared to work when an article was published in July by the Washington Post about the incident, which made little of the affair, saying it was an incident of "questionable management oversight" in which foreign DynCorp workers "hired a teenage boy to perform a tribal dance at a company farewell party".

A tribal dance? Could illegal strip clubs stateside possibly try that one out? "Naw, those are not full-contact lap-dances, Mr. Vice Cop. Krystal and Lexxis are just performing an ancient Cherokee fertility dance. See those buck-skin thongs on and those feathers in their hair?"

As we mentioned, this isn't DynCorp's first brush with the sex-slavery game. Back in Bosnia in 1999, US policewoman Kathryn Bolkovac was fired from DynCorp after blowing the whistle on a sex-slave ring operating on one of our bases there. DynCorp's employees were accused of raping and peddling girls as young as 12 from countries like Ukraine, Moldova and Romania. The company was forced to settle lawsuits against Bolkovac (whose story was recently told in the feature film The Whistleblower) and another man who informed authorities about DynCorp's sex ring.

There's your tax dollars at work, Joe Six-Pack. Maybe now you won't get so worked up about the fact that KPFT gets about ten percent of its funding from the government and uses some of it to air Al-Jazeera.
 

Ether_Snake

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Plenty of cables on the Vatican and Iran were released today by the Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/series/us-embassy-cables-the-documents

US embassy cables: Vatican woos Cuba to isolate Chávez
US embassy cables: 'Unforeseen obstacles' for Catholic church in accepting Anglican priests
US embassy cables: Diplomat reveals Vatican's 'unhelpful' role in Middle East peace process
US embassy cables: Vatican's 'active and influential' role at UN general assembly
US embassy cables: Vatican 'helped secure release' of British sailors captured by Iran
US embassy cables: Vatican softens towards Turkish EU bid
US embassy cables: Iran's capture of British sailors 'less risky than antagonising US'
US embassy cables: Ahmadinejad ordered capture of British servicemen 'for domestic reasons'
US embassy cables: Iraqi president calls on Iran to release British sailors
US embassy cables: UK ambassador to Vatican feared anti-Catholic violence in UK over Anglican rift
US embassy cables: Vatican used sovereign status in face of Irish child abuse investigation
US embassy cables: Vatican's 'moral megaphone' is faulty
 

tfur

Member
Lard said:
http://www.boingboing.net/2010/12/10/cias-honeypot-wikile.html

Looks like the CIA created a "honeypot" wikileaks mirror at wikileaks.psytek.net, presumably to see who is downloading the leaks—but they screwed up the anonymization. A quick Google reveals who's behind psytek.net. Wonder what other mirrors they set up, but with better cloaking?

Fake. People are getting hysterical. You really believe that someone in the CIA would forward traffic to their www.cia.gov site? Really?


Domain Name: PSYTEK.NET
Registrar: CSL COMPUTER SERVICE LANGENBACH GMBH D/B/A JOKER.COM
Whois Server: whois.joker.com
Referral URL: http://www.joker.com
Name Server: A.NS.JOKER.COM
Name Server: B.NS.JOKER.COM
Name Server: C.NS.JOKER.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 04-sep-2009
Creation Date: 22-may-2004
Expiration Date: 22-may-2012

also:

http://www.whois.de/psytek.net
 

jaxword

Member
Vatican refused to engage with child sex abuse inquiry

The Vatican refused to allow its officials to testify before an Irish commission investigating the clerical abuse of children and was angered when they were summoned from Rome, US embassy cables released by WikiLeaks reveal.

Requests for information from the 2009 Murphy commission into sexual and physical abuse by clergy "offended many in the Vatican" who felt that the Irish government had "failed to respect and protect Vatican sovereignty during the investigations", a cable says.

Despite the lack of co-operation from the Vatican, the commission was able to substantiate many of the claims and concluded that some bishops had tried to cover up abuse, putting the interests of the Catholic church ahead of those of the victims. Its report identified 320 people who complained of child sexual abuse between 1975 and 2004 in the Dublin archdiocese.

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The cable reveals the behind-the-scenes diplomacy in which politicians in the Irish government attempted to persuade an imperious Vatican to engage with the investigation.

The foreign minister, Michael Martin, "was forced to call in the papal nuncio (representative)" to discuss the situation. The ambassador reported that resentment towards the church in Rome remained very high in Ireland, largely because of the institutionalised cover-up of abuse by the Catholic church hierarchy.

Finally the Vatican changed tactics and on 11 December 2009 the ambassador stated that the pope had held a meeting with senior Irish clerics. The Irish cardinal Seán Brady and the archbishop of Dublin, Diarmuid Martin, went to Rome and met the pontiff, who was flanked by Bertone and four other cardinals.

At the end of the meeting, the Vatican issued a statement saying that the pope shared the "outrage, betrayal, and shame" of Irish Catholics, that he was praying for the victims, and that the church would take steps to prevent recurrences.

...


In a section entitled "Some Lessons Learned, but Crisis Will Play Out for Years", the ambassador related that his contacts at the Vatican and in Ireland expected the crisis in the Irish Catholic church to be protracted over several years, as the Murphy commission dealt only with allegations from the Dublin archdiocese.

They believed further investigations into other archdioceses would lead, "officials in both states lament, to additional painful revelations".


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The wording is astounding. The Vatican actually argues they shouldn't be investigated because investigating hurts them.

How many more examples of child abuse and covering it up can we have before people stop defending it? Will any amount of proof be enough to convince people the Vatican is complicit in crimes?
 

Dead Man

Member
http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/Wikileaks&id=1489

Sarah Palin wants Julian Assange hunted as a terrorist, among a chorus of American politicians calling for the arrest - and even death - of the Australian chief of Wikileaks.

If our Government won't stand up for the rights of Australian citizens, let's do it ourselves.

GetUp members have donated to put a strong statement in a full page ad in The New York Times, so we need as many signatures as possible before the ad runs next week. Help get us to 75,000!

NB - To respect your privacy, we won't print your name, but only a tally of how many Australians signed the statement.

The statement:
Dear President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder:

We, as Australians, condemn calls for violence, including assassination, against Australian citizen and WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, or for him to be labeled a terrorist, enemy combatant or be treated outside the ordinary course of justice in any way.

As Thomas Jefferson said, "information is the currency of democracy." Publishing leaked information in collaboration with major news outlets, as Wikileaks and Mr. Assange have done, is not a terrorist act.

Australia and the United States are the strongest of allies. Our soldiers serve side by side and we’ve experienced, and condemned, the consequences of terrorism together. To label Wikileaks a terrorist organisation is an insult to those Australians and Americans who have lost their lives to acts of terrorism and to terrorist forces.

If Wikileaks or their staff have broken international or national laws, let that case be heard in a just and fair court of law. At the moment, no such charges have been brought.

We are writing as Australians to say what our Government should have: all Australian citizens deserve to be free from persecution, threats of violence and detention without charge, especially from our friend and ally, the United States.

We call upon you to stand up for our shared democratic principles of the presumption of innocence and freedom of information.
 

Lard

Banned
http://www.fastcompany.com/1708896/...-knowingly-allowed-use-of-bee-toxic-pesticide

Wik-Bee Leaks: EPA Document Shows It Knowingly Allowed Pesticide That Kills Honey Bees

The world honey bee population has plunged in recent years, worrying beekeepers and farmers who know how critical bee pollination is for many crops. A number of theories have popped up as to why the North American honey bee population has declined--electromagnetic radiation, malnutrition, and climate change have all been pinpointed. Now a leaked EPA document reveals that the agency allowed the widespread use of a bee-toxic pesticide, despite warnings from EPA scientists.

The document, which was leaked to a Colorado beekeeper, shows that the EPA has ignored warnings about the use of clothianidin, a pesticide produced by Bayer that mainly is used to pre-treat corn seeds. The pesticide scooped up $262 million in sales in 2009 by farmers, who also use the substance on canola, soy, sugar beets, sunflowers, and wheat, according to Grist.

The leaked document (PDF) was put out in response to Bayer's request to approve use of the pesticide on cotton and mustard. The document invalidates a prior Bayer study that justified the registration of clothianidin on the basis of its safety to honeybees:

Clothianidin’s major risk concern is to nontarget insects (that is, honey bees). Clothianidin is a neonicotinoid insecticide that is both persistent and systemic. Acute toxicity studies to honey bees show that clothianidin is highly toxic on both a contact and an oral basis. Although EFED does not conduct RQ based risk assessments on non-target insects, information from standard tests and field studies, as well as incident reports involving other neonicotinoids insecticides (e.g., imidacloprid) suggest the potential for long term toxic risk to honey bees and other beneficial insects.

The entire 101-page memo is damning (and worth a read). But the opinion of EPA scientists apparently isn't enough for the agency, which is allowing clothianidin to keep its registration.

Suspicions about clothianidin aren't new; the EPA's Environmental Fate and Effects Division (EFAD) first expressed concern when the pesticide was introduced, in 2003, about the "possibility of toxic exposure to nontarget pollinators [e.g., honeybees] through the translocation of clothianidin residues that result from seed treatment." Clothianidin was still allowed on the market while Bayer worked on a botched toxicity study [PDF], in which test and control fields were planted as close as 968 feet apart.

Clothianidin has already been banned by Germany, France, Italy, and Slovenia for its toxic effects. So why won't the EPA follow? The answer probably has something to do with the American affinity for corn products. But without honey bees, our entire food supply is in trouble.

http://www.panna.org/sites/default/files/Memo_Nov2010_Clothianidin.pdf
 

Chichikov

Member
Lard said:
http://www.fastcompany.com/1708896/...-knowingly-allowed-use-of-bee-toxic-pesticide

Wik-Bee Leaks: EPA Document Shows It Knowingly Allowed Pesticide That Kills Honey Bees

The world honey bee population has plunged in recent years, worrying beekeepers and farmers who know how critical bee pollination is for many crops. A number of theories have popped up as to why the North American honey bee population has declined--electromagnetic radiation, malnutrition, and climate change have all been pinpointed. Now a leaked EPA document reveals that the agency allowed the widespread use of a bee-toxic pesticide, despite warnings from EPA scientists.

The document, which was leaked to a Colorado beekeeper, shows that the EPA has ignored warnings about the use of clothianidin, a pesticide produced by Bayer that mainly is used to pre-treat corn seeds. The pesticide scooped up $262 million in sales in 2009 by farmers, who also use the substance on canola, soy, sugar beets, sunflowers, and wheat, according to Grist.

The leaked document (PDF) was put out in response to Bayer's request to approve use of the pesticide on cotton and mustard. The document invalidates a prior Bayer study that justified the registration of clothianidin on the basis of its safety to honeybees:

Clothianidin’s major risk concern is to nontarget insects (that is, honey bees). Clothianidin is a neonicotinoid insecticide that is both persistent and systemic. Acute toxicity studies to honey bees show that clothianidin is highly toxic on both a contact and an oral basis. Although EFED does not conduct RQ based risk assessments on non-target insects, information from standard tests and field studies, as well as incident reports involving other neonicotinoids insecticides (e.g., imidacloprid) suggest the potential for long term toxic risk to honey bees and other beneficial insects.

The entire 101-page memo is damning (and worth a read). But the opinion of EPA scientists apparently isn't enough for the agency, which is allowing clothianidin to keep its registration.

Suspicions about clothianidin aren't new; the EPA's Environmental Fate and Effects Division (EFAD) first expressed concern when the pesticide was introduced, in 2003, about the "possibility of toxic exposure to nontarget pollinators [e.g., honeybees] through the translocation of clothianidin residues that result from seed treatment." Clothianidin was still allowed on the market while Bayer worked on a botched toxicity study [PDF], in which test and control fields were planted as close as 968 feet apart.

Clothianidin has already been banned by Germany, France, Italy, and Slovenia for its toxic effects. So why won't the EPA follow? The answer probably has something to do with the American affinity for corn products. But without honey bees, our entire food supply is in trouble.

http://www.panna.org/sites/default/files/Memo_Nov2010_Clothianidin.pdf
So I guess it wasn't the plants trying kill us.

Seriously, amazing story, that sadly wouldn't get 1% of the coverage the dumb bee conspiracy theories got.
 

Lard

Banned
WikiLeaks cables: India accused of systematic use of torture in Kashmir
Beatings and electric shocks inflicted on hundreds of civilians detained in Kashmir, US diplomats in Delhi told by ICRC

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/16/wikileaks-cables-indian-torture-kashmir

WikiLeaks cables: US officials voiced fears India could be target of biological terrorism
US diplomats are concerned that India could be the target of a biological terror attack, with fatal diseases such as anthrax being released into the country before spreading around the world

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/16/wikileaks-india-biological-terrorism-fears
 

Funky Papa

FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Bank of America bans all transactions to Wikileaks

"Bank of America joins in the actions previously announced by MasterCard, PayPal, Visa Europe and others and will not process transactions of any type that we have reason to believe are intended for WikiLeaks," the bank said in a statement.

"This decision is based upon our reasonable belief that WikiLeaks may be engaged in activities that are, among other things, inconsistent with our internal policies for processing payments."


Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2010/12/17/2528138/bank-of-america-says-it-wont-process.html#ixzz18TGLFFbH

Wikileaks response:

Does your business do business with Bank of America? Our advise is to place your funds somewhere safer.
Hide yo kids, hide yo wives.
 

Lard

Banned
kottila said:
US bullied spain into changing internet law
http://j.mp/hsAoHA

Already posted.

WikiLeaks cables: McDonald's used US to put pressure on El Salvador
Burger giant tried to delay US legislation in order to aid lawsuit being fought in Central American country, cables reveal

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/dec/21/wikileaks-cables-mcdonalds-us-el-salvador

The Vatican has withdrawn from a written agreement to join an international Holocaust memorial organisation because of tensions over the activity of Pope Pius XII, the pope during the second world war, American diplomatic cables show.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/21/wikileaks-cables-vatican-holocaust-pius?INTCMP=SRCH

WikiLeaks cables: Bangladeshi 'death squad' trained by UK government
Rapid Action Battalion, accused of hundreds of extra-judicial killings, received training from UK officers, cables reveal

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/21/wikileaks-cables-british-police-bangladesh-death-squad
 

Lard

Banned
SHIT JUST GOT REAL GAF

WikiLeaks Set To Reveal US-UFO War In Southern Ocean
http://www.eutimes.net/2010/12/wikileaks-set-to-reveal-us-ufo-war-in-southern-ocean/

A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared for President Medvedev by Russian Space Forces (VKS) 45th Division of Space Control says that an upcoming WikiLeaks release of secret US cables details that the Americans have been “engaged” since 2004 in a “war” against UFO’s based on or near the Continent of Antarctica, particularly the Southern Ocean.
 

Ether_Snake

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The US embassy in Paris advised Washington to start a military-style trade war against any European Union country which opposed genetically modified (GM) crops, newly released WikiLeaks cables show.

In response to moves by France to ban a Monsanto GM corn variety in late 2007, the ambassador, Craig Stapleton, a friend and business partner of former US president George Bush, asked Washington to penalise the EU and particularly countries which did not support the use of GM crops.

"Country team Paris recommends that we calibrate a target retaliation list that causes some pain across the EU since this is a collective responsibility, but that also focuses in part on the worst culprits.

"The list should be measured rather than vicious and must be sustainable over the long term, since we should not expect an early victory. Moving to retaliation will make clear that the current path has real costs to EU interests and could help strengthen European pro-biotech voices," said Stapleton, who with Bush co-owned the St Louis-based Texas Rangers baseball team in the 1990s.

In other newly released cables, US diplomats around the world are found to have pushed GM crops as a strategic government and commercial imperative.

Because many Catholic bishops in developing countries have been vehemently opposed to the controversial crops, the US applied particular pressure to the pope's advisers.

Cables from the US embassy in the Vatican show that the US believes the pope is broadly supportive of the crops after sustained lobbying of senior Holy See advisers, but regrets that he has not yet stated his support.

More at the link about GM crops and the Vatican.
 

mantidor

Member
UFOs =/= extraterrestrials, I'm sure there are UFOs in the cables and these people thought they were going to get little green people.
 
Wooh boy
A former Swiss bank executive said on Monday that he had given the WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, details of more than 2,000 prominent individuals and companies that he contends engaged in tax evasion and other possible criminal activity.

Rudolf M. Elmer, the former head of the Cayman Islands office of the prominent Swiss bank Julius Baer, refused to identify any of the individuals or companies, but told reporters at a press conference that about 40 politicians and “pillars of society” worldwide are among them.

He told The Observer newspaper over the weekend that those named in the documents come from “the U.S., Britain, Germany, Austria and Asia — from all over,” and include “business people, politicians, people who have made their living in the arts and multinational conglomerates — from both sides of the Atlantic.”

Mr. Assange said that WikiLeaks would verify and release the information, including the names, in as little as two weeks. He suggested possible partnerships with financial news organizations and said he would consider turning the information over to Britain’s Serious Fraud Office, a government agency that investigates financial corruption.
 

Jenga

Banned
Lard said:
Came in to post this.

I can't wait to see the White Knights defending tax cheats against Assange.
Why would they?

If anything they would point out that the dude is obviously using WL hype to inflate attention for his case. Because you know, one of the points of the WL operation is anonymity for whistleblowers...which is blown here because he announces it in newspapers. smiley here and such
 
Jenga said:
Why would they?

If anything they would point out that the dude is obviously using WL hype to inflate attention for his case. Because you know, one of the points of the WL operation is anonymity for whistleblowers...which is blown here because he announces it in newspapers. smiley here and such

And what would be the problem with that?
 

Jenga

Banned
empty vessel said:
And what would be the problem with that?
No particular problem, but it needs to be pointed out here WL is nothing but a middleman chosen because of its popularity. I don't believe it has any real bearing on what WL/Assange is doing as Lard implied.

and well personally, I wouldn't give anything to WL because Assange has the dirty habit of keeping particularly nasty pieces of intel as bargaining chips but that's just me
 
Jenga said:
Why would they?

If anything they would point out that the dude is obviously using WL hype to inflate attention for his case. Because you know, one of the points of the WL operation is anonymity for whistleblowers...which is blown here because he announces it in newspapers. smiley here and such

Taxation is theft, the real crime, while tax evaders are just defending their property. </teabagger>
 

Jenga

Banned
chaostrophy said:
Taxation is theft, the real crime, while tax evaders are just defending their property. </teabagger>
yes i am a teabagger and i support all financial fraud

just ask 50 cent
 

turnbuckle

Member
Jenga said:
Why would they?

If anything they would point out that the dude is obviously using WL hype to inflate attention for his case. Because you know, one of the points of the WL operation is anonymity for whistleblowers...which is blown here because he announces it in newspapers. smiley here and such

Don't see what the problem is. If you're going to do some whistle blowing you're probably going to want it blown by someone that'll get people to hear it. He said he tried giving the data to other groups and news agencies but was turned away or didn't feel what he presented was covered adequately.

No particular problem, but it needs to be pointed out here WL is nothing but a middleman chosen because of its popularity.
Why does it need to be pointed out? Seems like a pointless statement to make.

and well personally, I wouldn't give anything to WL because Assange has the dirty habit of keeping particularly nasty pieces of intel as bargaining chips but that's just me

And who would you, personally, give the information to?
 
Jenga said:
and well personally, I wouldn't give anything to WL because Assange has the dirty habit of keeping particularly nasty pieces of intel as bargaining chips but that's just me

Although you've framed Assange's "habit" as a casual fact, I don't think you know that or can adequately support it.
 

Jenga

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empty vessel said:
Although you've framed Assange's "habit" as a casual fact, I don't think you know that or can adequately support it.
Afghanistan doomsday files.

Bank of America files.

Fox News files.

The number of insurance files grows and he has yet to release them.
 

Jenga

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Why does it need to be pointed out? Seems like a pointless statement to make.
Because the way Lard framed his statement made it sound like anyone who opposes Assange would automatically have to defend the bankers committing fraud. Since I've stated about a million times I believe you can support WL without supporting Assange and his leadership, I felt like I had to point it out.

And who would you, personally, give the information to?
Openleaks (if they were open yet), Cryptome, or get in touch with reporters and send multiple copies myself. The entire point of WL is to be able to do the latter with complete safety and anonymity. I didn't cover the points where he claimed he could to have sent it to reporters and they glossed over everything, but since WL would give it to the same papers anyways I don't see the difference.
 

Ether_Snake

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Blah blah blah all I want is to see this stuff released.
 
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