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[Eddie-Griffin]

https://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/23626622/
https://tech4gamers.com/final-fantasy-7-has-sold-over-14-1-million-copies/

The Final Fantasy franchise is over 35 years old, with Final Fantasy 7 being among the most important games for the series yet. Final Fantasy 7 laid the foundation for modern games in the franchise, and many fans look fondly back at the game to this day.

Final Fantasy 7 also celebrated its 26th anniversary recently, and Square Enix has revealed another milestone for the beloved classic. According to Final Fantasy 7 Director Yoshinori Kitase, the classic game has now sold over 14.1 million copies.

Additionally, Square Enix has also announced that January 31 will be celebrated as ‘Final Fantasy 7 Day’ by the Japanese Anniversary Association.

Final Fantasy 7 continues to have a strong legacy for the franchise. The iconic JRPG introduced characters like Cloud and Sephiroth, along with incredible stories that have captivated fans for several decades.

A big milestone for the original Final Fantasy 7, makes sense given the remakes aren't really traditional remakes and you can still get a very different experience playing the remake and the original which gives incentive to go back and play the PS1 classic, to those that are fans of the series or Jrpgs in general.

The original FF7 came came out ~25 years ago.

 

[Dynasty8]

Still the best JRPG ever created.

 

[Deerock71]

Still the best JRPG ever created.

 

[rickybooby87]

Still the best JRPG ever created.

 

[Kdad]

Time to fire up my Vita TV and try to finish it for the 10th time...

 

[Gamerguy84]

I bought and finished it twice. Once was the 3 CD set for PS1. The other a digital download on Vita.

 

[lh032]

thats a sad number

 

[WoJ]

I'm surprised it's not more honestly.

 

[Pidull]

Replayed this for the first time in nearly 2 decades last year, had an absolute blast, I did basically everything in the game.

Game holds up as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Teletraan1]

I still prefer it to remake in every way. I recently replayed it with mods and it was a great experience. Playing it again after remake was eye opening. It is sad how much remake drags on. Things that are resolved in a few minutes/screens in the original are dragged on for an hour in the remake.

 

[GymWolf]

The only good ff7.

 

[RoboFu]

It’s been ported how many times and the same people have bought 4 or more times. I’ve bought it 4 times I know

 

[Swift_Star]

I still prefer it to remake in every way. I recently replayed it with mods and it was a great experience. Playing it again after remake was eye opening. It is sad how much remake drags on. Things that are resolved in a few minutes/screens in the original are dragged on for an hour in the remake.

I understand the sentiment, but I replayed both and I really love how the remake adds much more context and humanity necessary. On the OG it feels things simply happen and everyone barely reacts to it. Of course, it was a limitation of the time. But remake add so much flavor that I really don't mind how long it got.

 

[Kokoloko85]

Still the best JRPG ever created.

Not number 1, but I can easily accept it and FF7 deserves it

 

[mansoor1980]

the game that brought rpgs to the mainstream

 

[Gans]

Pretty sure I bought like 8 copies of this game... Vanilla, platinum, google play, appstore, ps5, switch, steam... for sure missing some lol

 

[The Shepard]

I've owned it twice on ps1, once on ps3/vita, once on ps4, xbox one and twice on switch (digital and cart) so 7 times! My fave game ever.

 

[K2D]

the game that brought rpgs to the mainstream

I haven't played through FF7 yet, what is this from? /s You monster.

 

[Rykan]

Well deserved. It is the best entry in the franchise and it is much, much better than Final Fantasy VI in particular. The jump from Final Fantasy VI to Final Fantasy VII was the largest jump the franchise has had, both in terms of popularity and especially quality.

 

[mansoor1980]

I haven't played through FF7 yet, what is this from? /s You monster.

you havent played the original ff7 yet?
i will edit that gif

 

[Kilau]

Do we have a breakdown of sales?

Curious if the original now has more sales outside of its first release.

 

[Teletraan1]

I understand the sentiment, but I replayed both and I really love how the remake adds much more context and humanity necessary. On the OG it feels things simply happen and everyone barely reacts to it. Of course, it was a limitation of the time. But remake add so much flavor that I really don't mind how long it got.

I am referring to mostly battle padding. For example when making your way back to sector 7 prior to Wall market in the OG it is a few pre rendered backgrounds that you can essentially not even fight anything if you get lucky. Even if you aren't lucky it is a handful of battles, a few minutes tops. In the remake this entire sequence drags on with hand crane mini games and way more battles down some linear tunnel that don't really add anything to the experience.

I didn't mind fleshing out characters, those parts I enjoyed. The graphics of the remake obviously allows more expressive storytelling than the blank faces of chibi characters. I just wish that they didn't have too much of this type of unnecessary battle padding because this happened every time you had to go from one new place to another.

 

[Swift_Star]

I am referring to mostly battle padding. For example when making your way back to sector 7 prior to Wall market in the OG it is a few pre rendered backgrounds that you can essentially not even fight anything if you get lucky. Even if you aren't lucky it is a handful of battles, a few minutes tops. In the remake this entire sequence drags on with hand crane mini games and way more battles down some linear tunnel that don't really add anything to the experience.

I didn't mind fleshing out characters, those parts I enjoyed. The graphics of the remake obviously allows more expressive storytelling than the blank faces of chibi characters. I just wish that they didn't have too much of this type of unnecessary battle padding because this happened every time you had to go from one new place to another.

The cranes section is my most hated section on remake. I really despise it. But I get what you're saying and I mostly agree.

 

[Celcius]

Best game of all time

 

[Thaedolus]

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Do we have a breakdown of sales?

Curious if the original now has more sales outside of its first release.

Might be difficult to get a full breakdown, but no, the majority are from the original release.

 

[Davevil]

So sad that it has such a crappy remake

 

[TLZ]

Noice.

That's PS first party for you.

 

[Robb]

Would’ve thought it’d be more.

 

[Punished Miku]

Would’ve thought it’d be more.

The industry has grown a lot. Capcom's most historic series have lower sales numbers than you'd think as well.

1 million sales used to be a crowning achievement.

 

[Paltheos]

Comic Cloud has a point - That cowboy hat was really cute.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

2 games but from last year
Final Fantasy X series shipments and digital sales top 20.8 million

Final Fantasy X series shipments and digital sales top 20.8 million

Total worldwide shipments and digital sales for the Final Fantasy X series, which includes Final Fantasy X and Final Fantasy X-2, have surpassed 20.8 million units as of September 2021, Square Enix…

www.gematsu.com

 

[gaming_again]

It feels as if everybody in the world my age and below has played this... surprised it's not way more.
Happy to say I've bought it four times.

 

[TheCed]

We still don't have numbers on Remake ?

 

[caligula13]

Like a bad Pokemon?

 

[WoJ]

It’s been ported how many times and the same people have bought 4 or more times. I’ve bought it 4 times I know

I've bought it 3 times lol

 

[Catphish]

I recently replayed it with mods and it was a great experience.

What kind of mods, and where did you find them?

 

[caligula13]

how can i play the game on xsx?

 

[NahaNago]

I've bought it 3 times lol

same, on ps1, pc, and then ps4.

That 14 million number just seems so small for a game that gets talked about so much. I was expecting 30 million or at least 20 million.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

We still don't have numbers on Remake ?

Safe guess would be 6-7mil sold through, maybe just over 7mil with the PC release.

They did also give the PS4 game and then upgrade away for free on PS plus a year after release, so that would have slowed down sales massively, but presumably Sony would have paid them well for it, as well as for console exclusivity.

 

[Boneless]

Now give me a remaster.

 

[Oof85]

the game that brought rpgs to the mainstream

Nah that's Pokémon.

FF7 did a lot for making jrpgs viable to gamers in the west but it was Pokémon that hit the mainstream like a meteor.

There's no comparison.

 

[mansoor1980]

Nah that's Pokémon.

FF7 did a lot for making jrpgs viable to gamers in the west but it was Pokémon that hit the mainstream like a meteor.

There's no comparison.

 

[Thebonehead]

I could never get past that Sepiroth final battle

I found out about the 7777 materia trick and went back to do it but my memory card had corrupted - That was about as fun as when my switch died 60 or 70 hours or so into BOTW

 

[sendit]

After reading the God of War Ragnarok sales thread, this seems really low.

 

[gradient]

Bought it on release day. Still remember going into the store the day before to pre-order and the guy behind the counter assuring me that there was no need and they had plenty. Walked in as the store opened to be met by a literal mountain of them stacked and waiting.

Damn, I feel so old...

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

Do we have a breakdown of sales?

Curious if the original now has more sales outside of its first release.

No, it was about 8 million or so originally, and around 10 early PSP/PSN era.

After reading the God of War Ragnarok sales thread, this seems really low.

A lot of FF7 sales were from circumstances that helped it sell at the time it came out, that kind of stopped having the same impact after a couple years.

But even then, games sell a lot more now wither way, Jrpgs were never that big outside of Japan to a GOWR type sales figure.

Nah that's Pokémon.

FF7 did a lot for making jrpgs viable to gamers in the west but it was Pokémon that hit the mainstream like a meteor.

There's no comparison.

People who play Pokemon don't view it as a Jrpg, but a accessible kids game with monster collecting.

But to be fait, FF7 never made Jrpgs mainstream either, just Square, some a 3rd of their catalog.

Safe guess would be 6-7mil sold through, maybe just over 7mil with the PC release.

They did also give the PS4 game and then upgrade away for free on PS plus a year after release, so that would have slowed down sales massively, but presumably Sony would have paid them well for it, as well as for console exclusivity.

I am not sure, them being quite and remaining quiet after that 3+ million sales announcement early on for the remake, shows the remake is likely frontloaded.

Don't forget they have intrograde too, which would interfere with remakes sales and be a separate sku.

same, on ps1, pc, and then ps4.

That 14 million number just seems so small for a game that gets talked about so much. I was expecting 30 million or at least 20 million.

That's most japanese leaning internet boards online, people think Metal Gear Solid PS1 was bigger than it was because of fan journalists and a loud minority, but it lost to Tony Hawk, Spyro, Frogger, driver, and funny enough FF7. https://www.neogaf.com/threads/foun...p-nds-and-gba-games-through-2007-usa.1639410/

Meanwhile, GT was much bigger than people though it was.

 

[NahaNago]

That's most japanese leaning internet boards online, people think Metal Gear Solid PS1 was bigger than it was because of fan journalists and a loud minority, but it lost to Tony Hawk, Spyro, Frogger, driver, and funny enough FF7. https://www.neogaf.com/threads/foun...p-nds-and-gba-games-through-2007-usa.1639410/

Meanwhile, GT was much bigger than people though it was.

metal gear solid 1 being smaller than many of those games I'm not surprised about. Metal gear solid seemed to grow their fanbase with each game. Final Fantasy 7 on the other hand seems to be talked about by like most of the gaming channels at some point. Then again it is a ps1 game and a turn based game so I can kinda see why the numbers aren't bigger than it is.

 

[Moriah20]

After reading the God of War Ragnarok sales thread, this seems really low.

Well you have to consider that gaming was much smaller back then. Plus, turn based games (or well, ATB, whatever) outside of pokemon aren't exactly selling anywhere near that number nowadays, so it's still impressive in its own right.

 

[Eddie-Griffin]

metal gear solid 1 being smaller than many of those games I'm not surprised about. Metal gear solid seemed to grow their fanbase with each game. Final Fantasy 7 on the other hand seems to be talked about by like most of the gaming channels at some point. Then again it is a ps1 game and a turn based game so I can kinda see why the numbers aren't bigger than it is.

I mean, FF7 was never that big, it was always the deviant art, anime, jrpg crowd that got attracted to the game in the 90's still doing most of the blow horning for the game afterward, and comprise of most of the channels 9which are a smaller percent than you think) you reference. That's why despite being on PSN and various re-releases it didn't sell that much more after all of these years. Many of the people who got pulled in back then didn't come back either.

I think this was noticed and why FF7 Remake was chosen to be a loose sequel/remake/reboot with a new gameplay style, so they can attract old and new fans to the franchise.

However, Square has remained radio silent after that initial sales announcement years ago, so who knows how much Remake+grade has sold.