Stare-Bear
Banned
70 billion well spent Phil…
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Tom Henderson: Activision to Delay next CoD, No CoD in 2023
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
I really hope MS lets Activision do things other than crank out COD every year. I know it's always a top seller but damn. They have so many talented devs and dormant IPs. Vicarious Visions could be their Bluepoint. I want a Fable 2 remake.
they still have warzone 2 next year, also that 70B is not just about COD.
COD is probably worth 10B-15B from that deal.
Mr Moose
Member
I'm surprised how much King make with their Candy Crush/mobile shite, I think it's as much as CoD(?).
it will stay multiplat but don't expect on Spartucs or any other streaming service. Streaming is new field having COD and Minecraft as exclusive for Xcloud is huge for MSI would have welcomed the 2 year cycle when Sledgehammer started making shitty games. Should have skipped them all together.
If MW2 2 reboot or whatever is the final COD to be released on a Playstation console, it was a good run. Will probably be my last COD.
last year King made revenue in $2B...also they have 230M users.
State of Dice in the mud right now, they lost Devs after 2016, IW and Tryarch are in better state than Dice, as for sledgehammer though phil might need to pull them from COD.
i expect MW2 this year to be big.
Javthusiast
Banned
Damn Cod hasn't missed a year since 2005?
Lupin25
Member
Taking this route makes sense, but if we’re headed toward leap years for COD I wonder if one of those devs (besides Infinity Ward), will be dropped from making mainline games in the future?
No one is going to want to wait twice as long for Infinity Ward’s next iterations (well at least I won’t lol).
No one is going to want to wait twice as long for Infinity Ward’s next iterations (well at least I won’t lol).
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ChiefDada
Gold Member
Not quite, but change in financial performance is the bigger picture, I think. Operating profits for King was up 30% while Activision was down 10%.
jhjfss
Member
I would say 2003. COD 1 released in 2003 and United Offensive released in 2004
3liteDragon
Member
Thirty7ven
Banned
Sales in decline, popularity waning. Don’t want to be that that guy but Cold War was garbo and worst of all, kinda buggy. Vanguard smells like major dud, can’t even tell a COD released.
They don’t want three stinkers in a row.
They don’t want three stinkers in a row.
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Mr Moose
Member
For me Cold War was decent, but it came after Modern Warfare, which was really good. Vanguard, judging from the beta, was dog shit so I skipped it. Sledgehammer are the weakest CoD devs, they get worse and worse.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
It doesn't work that way. But if it does... then that's mighty clever of them if the agreement was years based, and not number of releases based.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Another reason why they were selling the company. No COD in 2023 and all the studios are stuck supporting Vanguard and Warzone.
Kotick knew before he got that fat cheque
iamvin22
Industry Verified
Nope.
Craig of War
Banned
MS They want no longer COD yearly release anyways so how is this on Phil lol
They don’t own them yet.
Craig of War
Banned
We all know they talking behind closed doors wile making public statement about no involvement from MS as to not face blacklash from the FTC
ethomaz
Banned
Seems like Vaguard was the first CoD in decades to not break $1b… I saw posted on Twitter but didn’t save the link.
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ManaByte
Gold Member
ComputerBlue
Member
More like Jason Screecher.
Andodalf
Banned
Dataminers have found new a new operator who is one of the zombies characters. It’s possible it’s just dead content, but that would be off.
Reizo Ryuu
Gold Member
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Yeah, name your sources like Jason does whenever he writes a hit job on a Dev Studio. He always names the employees giving him the dirt -------- Oh wait.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Warzone make more $$$ than traditional CoD releases.
DaleinCalgary
Member
Also a WW2 multiplayer game where you don't shoot any NazisLaser sights on WWII weapons.
Javthusiast
Banned
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ManaByte
Gold Member
Dude blocks anyone who posts here, and then cries when a Twitter account reveals the news he locks behind a $2,000 paywall.
R3claimer117
Member
So you think Microsoft bought activision for almost 70 billion dollars and they are not making decisions regardless if publicly they’re are to remain independent? If the contracts through 2024 they can consider a large update to warzone as part of that marketing campaign. Doesn’t mean the games get pushed back what logic is that. They’re literally pushing ghost wire up to get out of that contract as soon as possible.yea no.
The deal has not been finished yet, that shit won't complete until 2023.
??? None of that makes any sense what so ever lol
The marketing deal is for a set number of games, they can't just delay or not put the games out to avoid it as they likely have a performance clause, as in you are paid to do something, avoiding it doesn't mean you can wait it out as I don't think most of you have ever been in such deals before lol I don't really even get why gamers seem to think in this odd absolute either or way lol When I got into listing contracts for buildings, homes, hotels etc, normally for homes it was 6 months, for buildings it would a year, that didn't fucking mean I could do NOTHING for that time and still be off the hook, the 6 months or year is with the understanding something is BEING DONE, it doesn't fucking mean a date passes and I can do nothing, I must actually still do the thing I was hired to do, so gamers need to get this.
Even if it stated they had a 5 year deal, it was likely for a set number of games, in the event that the game was delayed the deal would extend etc. That is how a lot of that shit works and I've never been in any fucking deal worth hundreds of millions, like...low millions, but not like 100 fucking million or something, so I highly doubt it was that loose as that doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
The next thing to note is that buyout is not done till 2023. So MS made none of this.
Second thing to not is MS has already stated this about when the deal is actually even done
Microsoft pledges to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation indefinitely
For the first time, though, Microsoft said it had committed to make the game available to PlayStation owners beyond the time frame of existing agreements.fortune.com
@Lognor They likely just mean its a set number of games, until 2024 unless a game is delayed and it can be pushed to 2025. As in, if they had a deal for 5 games, they still need to honor those 5 games, if it gets delayed, then they can push the deal to a different year in that event.
ethomaz
Banned
Primary sources are protected by law like these employees that talked with Jason… he can’t even reveal their names without the employee authorization unless he is asked by a judge at court (even so that information can be keep confidential just to parts of the lawsuit and not made public).
Imagine if the employees have no protection and their names goes public the retaliation they should receive lol
BTW investigate journalist that reveals the dirt things behind the companies are needed and praised by the society… just because it is the gaming industry or your favorite developer doesn’t make them infallible.
Now you share a material from another journalist without saying how made the article/repost then you are just stealing others work… it is anti-ethical.
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ethomaz
Banned
He is indeed the one of the best in game industry and one of the few that can be called journalist.I bet he thinks he's the hottest thing in gaming journalism there ever was.
But hey you guys probably believes Jeff Grubb, Jez Corden and Tom Warrior do journalism?
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3liteDragon
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Jason love-in is strong with this one.....
I saw your post about dismissing Tom Henderson because he got something wrong and yet you fanboying over Jason who came up with a BS story about Bend studio that the former heads of the studio dismissed as exaggeration and untrue. Jason often exaggerares things by citing a few unhappy employees and trying to make it seem like a general problem. Jason is also a manbaby who blocks anyone who disagrees with him, hardly journalistic behaviour.
Edit: If Jason kidnapped you and made you type that just DM one of us.
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mansoor1980
Gold Member
what a cluster fuck this acquisition has been
yurinka
Member
At least in the RE Village's marketing deal with Sony the clock to avoid putting the game on non-Sony game subscriptions during 13-14 months started to count from the game release, so a game delay wouldn't affect it.
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TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
Holy shit, out of all the people and reasons to see bitching about this news, the Schreier shitfit was a CURVE BALL.
I've never played a CoD game and I give no fucks about this, but imagining him squealing at his Windowlicker wife at roughly the same pitch as a starving rabbit about missing the headline...
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I've never played a CoD game and I give no fucks about this, but imagining him squealing at his Windowlicker wife at roughly the same pitch as a starving rabbit about missing the headline...
Jamesfrancosogood.jpg
Nocturno999
Member
Finally. Really hoping MW2 delivers.