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[Cockles & Whelks]

More pussy (or dick) in the big city. Work, work, work means you have to have some play.

 

[Reality Czar]

like 5 or 6 reviews said the company culture is very frat boy sorority girl upper middle class and if you're a minority they hire you for 3 months to diversify the company picture and let you go. And that you won't fit in and be ridiculed.

Oof. Yeah I would be wary of that place.

the apartments in the rinky dink smaller town were higher than the ones in the city. I was like what in the fuck. The city I could find a nice spot, one bedroom for like 600-850. The town? 900-1200. So thats a consideration as well.

Yeah that's a huge difference! This is why it pays to think these things out in advance. You might be able to cut your rent in half. Company benefits are nice and all, but if you can save $600 per month by picking the right living spot, that money is going to add up fast.

Lot of people are telling you to explore and have adventures. I don't see that happening so much in a "rinky dink small town". Certainly not one up north during these crazy times. Might turn into lockdown city out of nowhere.

Some people say ditch your friends for the money. Being in your 20s in a city you know with with friends you know and love, you only can do that once, and if you miss out, no amount of money will be able to buy it.

 

[jdforge]

If I was any of your 2 prospective employers I’d be sacking your ass for indecisiveness.

This is a business role? You need to be able to make decisions.

The secret answer to all of this is - there is no right or wrong decision. Whatever you decide you then must make it work and be a success.

 

[AeonGaidenRaiden]

I dont think you should ever chose a job based on where your friends or family are if its a great gig and money. Thats what we do, keep on networking and meeting new people, new friends etc. Trust me i miss my family and friends but its a sacrifice you pay.

 

[Biff]

Don't know exactly why I'm taking this to a gaming board but this is honestly the hardest decision I think I've ever made in my life and I've consulted all my family and friends and still am very conflicted. Maybe some strangers with an unbiased perspective can shed light that would be illuminating.

Keeping details vague, basically I got two great job offers with great pay but there's a catch. And it's a classic brain vs heart dilemma.

One company is a better company overall, more renown, Fortune 500, upward mobility. The base pay is slightly higher and I get a company car, insurance paid for, gas paid for, phone bill paid for, car maintenance paid for, and they compensate grad school if and when I want to go get my masters. Problem is, the location is a smaller, kinda rinky dink town in a state up north where I have no friends and very limited social prospects. Like... very limited. But it is such a great opportunity, better career path, and I'd have travel opportunities to some really cool cities.

The other company is inferior as a company but has competitive pay and the thing about this one is it is in one of the major metropolitan areas of the whole country. Right in the heart. And where I actually grew up. And all my best friends, who I've been best friends with since middle school, will be in that city. Along with friends I've made through college as well. But it doesn't have any of the aforementioned benefits of the other one. Which would save me a huge amount of money month to month I'd reckon. And I reached out to a friend who worked here to see how it was and she gave it a... mixed review. Actually, a negative one really. Said there was "no guidance" just constant micromanaging and critique. And she "dreaded everyday". And "knows people who stayed who are trying to leave already". But at the same time at this age I'm already hugely isolated from my friends and this could be one of the last times in my life to have all my friends and family in one place for an extended duration of time. A real once in a lifetime chance. But I just don't know if its worth it.

I don't know what the fuck to do guys, really struggling.

First option. Easy choice for me but I understand your conflict given at your age in life there is still the illusion of close adult friends lol.

Fortune 500 + upward mobility + will pay for grad school. Forget all the other benefits because that's enough there. Grind out 3 years in the rinky dink town then go do an MBA on company dollar in a cool city, then either go back to the company (I'm assuming they have multiple offices if Fortune 500, pick the best city from there) or ditch the company entirely and use the MBA to career switch into an even better career. You'll burn the bridge with the first company and have to pay back the MBA but if it lands you a 6-figure gig in NYC or another top city then who cares.

If possible, try to do more due diligence on the Fortune 500 company just to make sure the culture isn't garbage. But the bar is very low because your second option sounds like a dumpster fire and you'll hate your life in a matter of months.

Remember, you'll spend guaranteed 40hrs/week at your job and MAYBE, if you're lucky, 4 hrs/week with friends. Having a shitty job will do more damage than good friends can repair. Ignoring the risk that you'll become miserable and might lose friends on that basis alone, left with nothing but the shitty job.

 

[Schattenjäger]

take the job that will look better on your resume .. company .. title ..
not sure you can answer this.. but also the job that you will
learn more skills from ... look at reviews of both on glass door (not the best tool but should help a little)

i also echo what others have said about friends... as you get older.. friends tend to worry less about you..

and also who’s to say you won’t meet new better friends/lovers in the new place

can you tell us the names of the two locations?

 

[arkhamguy123]

Oof. Yeah I would be wary of that place.

Yeah that's a huge difference! This is why it pays to think these things out in advance. You might be able to cut your rent in half. Company benefits are nice and all, but if you can save $600 per month by picking the right living spot, that money is going to add up fast.

Lot of people are telling you to explore and have adventures. I don't see that happening so much in a "rinky dink small town". Certainly not one up north during these crazy times. Might turn into lockdown city out of nowhere.

Some people say ditch your friends for the money. Being in your 20s in a city you know with with friends you know and love, you only can do that once, and if you miss out, no amount of money will be able to buy it.

Yeah it just makes it tough. Of course it has good reviews on Glassdoor too, infact its positive overall but some stuff is pretty eye opening. And of course it's the one in the city I want...

 

[bob_mugabe]

Said there was "no guidance" just constant micromanaging and critique. And she "dreaded everyday". And "knows people who stayed who are trying to leave already".

I feel like you already answered your own question. At your age, you'll have plenty of opportunities to meet new people and find new ways to spend your spare time, even in a smaller town. Going to work every day with a pit in your stomach might make a nightmare out of your life in no time. Easy choice, really.

 

[T8SC]

Pick the company that is paying the higher salary & your fuel bill ... then drive back to the other town to socialise every day/night/weekend and abuse the hell out of that perk.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

Yeah... It's just, my friends are the world to me. I love those guys and I'd lay down in traffic for any one of them. Literally best friends for a decade or more. Since childhood. And as I understand, my coworkers at the better offer will be older white guys. Which is cool I don't have a problem with that. But the workers in the other one are all college age and primarily women. I'm just terrified of loneliness after COVID and feel like socially both in and out of work the other one has the Fortune 500 company beat. But for a career path is inferior. Making the choice go from clear to blurry.

Over the years your friends will slowly ditch you anyway. So you may as well start working on not being so clingy! If being a whopping 45 minutes away from a 'great' city is too isolated for you though I don't know what to tell you, I'm not that kind of creature. But don't outsource your decision to fucking NeoGAF.

 

[bitbydeath]

If you’re young and have no ties (wife, kids) then go with the first. You’ll get a lot of life experience going out on your own.

 

[arkhamguy123]

Over the years your friends will slowly ditch you anyway. So you may as well start working on not being so clingy! If being a whopping 45 minutes away from a 'great' city is too isolated for you though I don't know what to tell you, I'm no that kind of creature. But don't outsource your decision to fucking NeoGAF.

Not these three guys. Trust me.

As for that last part, in fairness I did lead with the very first thing I said being an acknowledgment of the silliness of taking it to a gaming forum. But theres a lot of bright people here and I've gotten a lot of insights from people with more life experience which made asking it on neogaf less silly.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

Not these three guys. Trust me.

Only time will tell. Trust me.

 

[levyjl1988]

1st option. Avoid Cities as covid is abundant. Big company, upward mobility, and small-town would be great. Careful as you may end up in Silent Hill.