Sentenza
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Nah, I think Horizon Zero Dawn is an insipid game compared to plenty of other stuff, frankly.
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Ubisoft and Guerilla devs are salty over Elden Ring reviews
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ToTTenTranz
Banned
7 pages worth of discussion about 3 tweets from 3 developers out of the thousands that work on those dev studios.
fart town usa
Gold Member
PC release?They're not wrong.
Elden Ring is the first game in at least a few years that I've had to refund because it straight up doesn't work like a released game should.
But 97
Hawking Radiation
Member
I've seen posts in this forum taking the mickey out of those other 'standard' open world games. Like I said before its this constant warring culture that sometimes sours the experience of talking up games on the forum.
If its not Xbox vs PS, its X game vs Y game. All it does it gets people riled up and banned or some go on an ignore spree.
Latest thing now is Xbox camp are referred to as green rats. Fuck knows where that came from. I may have been absent for a week or so and came back to find green rat pics posted everywhere.
This place is weird sometimes.
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
IGN staff had a discussion about the difficulties they have enjoying games like Elden Ring and I must say a lot of it makes perfect sense.
The video will certainly trigger some here.
The video will certainly trigger some here.
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Hawking Radiation
Member
Post something about Elden Rings graphics and you'll get 7 more pages.
Seriously, I dare you. Make sure you have plenty of lube too. These guys are rough.
baphomet
Member
yes
3090, 5900x, 64GB ram, running off an gen 4 m.2.
can't even keep from dropping to 0fps every few minutes at 1440p.
the console releases, while not great, aren't unplayable.
Honey Bunny
Member
Working on Ubisoft game ui *is* virtually worthless. Hope this inspires him to do something more meaningful with his life.Look, we all grew up with games that had text like this too:
But if you write game dialog and saw that in an acclaimed 2022 release you would probably be a little salty.
I get that the bad UI isn't enough to ruin a good game, but I can see why someone who does game UI for a living might feel like all their work is for nothing when the biggest game out has a garbage UI.
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I collect VHS tapes
Member
this is such a bad look
Jim Ryan other Clone
Banned
Just downloading the game and will play tomorrow but God the fans of this game are obnoxious manchilds.
I am used to it. The music seen I was involved with had a similar kind of elitism.
Jim Ryan other Clone
Banned
Who you think you are and question the loyalist of this game. They are 3 Devs too many.....7 pages are not enough they have to find this 3 Devs and pike them.
xellos2099alpha
Member
I mean, elden ring is fun but the game run like shit on pc. It is also too easy to miss sidequest.
Ev1L AuRoN
Member
I really liked Elden Ring, but I think the game is overrated AF.
It's becoming cringe to see people singing praises for the game like if it was this perfect experience. Best game ever...
Not to shit on the game, I really think it is amazing, I just can't see it the same way the internet does. It feels like people following a trend and not genuine appreciation. (from some users, not everyone, evidently.)
It's becoming cringe to see people singing praises for the game like if it was this perfect experience. Best game ever...
Not to shit on the game, I really think it is amazing, I just can't see it the same way the internet does. It feels like people following a trend and not genuine appreciation. (from some users, not everyone, evidently.)
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Off topic - I can't believe you missed it. It's from one of the greatest account suicides in Gaf history.
A MUST read:
It's funny when people are getting banned for console warring while some of the mods are console warriors
First of all to any mod reading this, if your mom was fucked by one man only don't delete this thread, even at era they don't delete anything unlike the green trash you have here that delete a lot of posts and threads, covering their tracks or what do you have to hide? Now to the malignant cunt...
Barakov
Gold Member
If devs want a more non-toxic online environment, they should start with themselves.
Elden Ring has performance issues but even with flaws it's more fun to play than any Assassin's Creed game ever made.
The last comment from the Guerilla dev, proves he likes games that guides him - "holds his hand".
To each their own, but dissing a better game than any of those studios ever made is just pathetic.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Game developers know more about game design than game critics.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
who cares what ubisoft has to say
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Strider Highwind
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Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
Member
Ain't even really just salt at this point
I hope they cry more
This feels like snorting that elite pink himalyan sea-salt off a princess right now
(achoo!)
I hope they cry more
This feels like snorting that elite pink himalyan sea-salt off a princess right now
(achoo!)
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Hawking Radiation
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BruhOff topic - I can't believe you missed it. It's from one of the greatest account suicides in Gaf history.
A MUST read:
It's funny when people are getting banned for console warring while some of the mods are console warriors
First of all to any mod reading this, if your mom was fucked by one man only don't delete this thread, even at era they don't delete anything unlike the green trash you have here that delete a lot of posts and threads, covering their tracks or what do you have to hide? Now to the malignant cunt...www.neogaf.com
Hawking Radiation
Member
If a game is telling me where to go and then showing it to me on the map, then also making my horse auto run to said location, I count that as hand holding. And that's exactly what Ass Creed does.
Then you're being willfully blind (or insisting on being absolutely literal). The tenor of this thread (and others) is that ER is what an open-world should be and that the others (read: Ubisoftopenworlds) are committee driven trash. All because the default settings in those games swing the opposite to ER's settings in regards to player feedback. I don't know a single Ubisoft openworld game that doesn't allow you to customize your experience so that you get as much or as little feedback as possible. And God forbid the people who constantly bitch about "checklists" (as if Elden Ring didn't have checklists) actually tune the experience in the opposite direction to get that freedom of exploration (which is what I did with ACV and why it's one of my favorite open world games).
. . .instead they'll just hop on the interwebs and endless grouse about how "other developers" are making ADHD games and how "freeing" ER is (simply because it hides the checklist from you).
. . .only if YOU tell it to.
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Decontamination Silo
Banned
Miyazaki promised he would filter the impure gamers. We knew this going in, but filtering devs??!? Sensai has gone above and beyond his divine role and has decided to spoil us. We are not worthy of such blessings. For the first time in a decade I'm starting to think we're gonna make it.
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they are right . period. Every now and then the industry needs for any unjustified reason, to raise a development team with respect to all the others and the industry influences itself in the long run ..... first it was Blizzard then ID then Bungie then Naughty Dog .... today they are from software ..... they might fart into the mic and get a goty for the best soundtrack.
From software are the most overrated development team in gaming history.
ps. (The teams I mentioned earlier have their flaws but unlike the from software they are technically at least all highly valid teams.)
The funny thing is that on all platforms the average MC users vote of elden ring is 6.something / 7.something ....... and honestly the thing that makes this data more truthful , and does not suggest the classic fanboy review bombing of the rival platform is that it is more or less the same on all platforms
PS5 : 7.8
PC : 6.4
Xsx: 7.2
PS4 : 6.7
Xbo: 6.2
From software are the most overrated development team in gaming history.
ps. (The teams I mentioned earlier have their flaws but unlike the from software they are technically at least all highly valid teams.)
The funny thing is that on all platforms the average MC users vote of elden ring is 6.something / 7.something ....... and honestly the thing that makes this data more truthful , and does not suggest the classic fanboy review bombing of the rival platform is that it is more or less the same on all platforms
PS5 : 7.8
PC : 6.4
Xsx: 7.2
PS4 : 6.7
Xbo: 6.2
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Sega Orphan
Banned
I assume like everyone in life they are tribal with the team and game. They put alot of effort in and probably think their game was just as good, or that they spent alot more time getting the graphics to be as good as they can, and no doubt spend a ton of time optimising their game to keep a fluid performance on all consoles and PC cards. Going through a whole game looking for dips and rewriting code etc to fix those dips takes a ton of time and is frustrating. To them it looks like From didn't even bother and they see them being praised for it.
I can understand their thoughts, but you don't take it public because you look petty.
I can understand their thoughts, but you don't take it public because you look petty.
The only one salty are bunch of teenagers crying about a valid point. He was talking about UX which Elden Ring isnt that great at. He wasn’t suggesting that game was bad.Its ironical how people are reacting and saying the people who actually know stuff are salty. Just because you like a game doesn’t mean its perfect. No game is and most games have this kind of discussion. Souls fan have become so toxic that any rational discussion is greeted with childish response like the OP.
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Amiga
Member
The game design scale in an open world.
Swift_Star
Banned
That is not innovation, it’s iteration, and BOTW did it before.
Amiga
Member
BotW was a revolution in terrain the battle encounters were average.
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
This only shows how disconnected these triple A developers are disconnected with what makes a game good in the first place. Ocarina of time run like shit on the N64, dozens of super popular mods like cs and dota required you going through dozens of hops to even get it working, UI be dammed.
Hell, even on PC where the gane is "unplayable" the CCU of Eden ring keeps growing. None of that shit makes a game actually good. No one who cares about that shit has any idea of what gaming is about. It's time of those said developers stop and actually try to look what they are even working in games in the first place.
Hell, even on PC where the gane is "unplayable" the CCU of Eden ring keeps growing. None of that shit makes a game actually good. No one who cares about that shit has any idea of what gaming is about. It's time of those said developers stop and actually try to look what they are even working in games in the first place.
JordoftheDead
Member
This is amazing.
RafterXL
Member
Horizon Forbidden West is starting to make a whole lot more sense after that tweet from one of its developers.
This "warring" you are seeing is because many us are, finally, fed up with how stupid developers think we are as gamers, and frankly how stupid other gamers are that need the sort of GPS direction and constant hand-holding that these games offer.
Anyway, going directly from a game that literally told you exactly what to do every step of the way, both with the UI and Aloy not shutting the fuck up, to something like Elden Ring, which just allows you to play and figure out stuff on your own, was not only a breath of fresh air, but it put it giant spotlight on just how horrible these games have become. They should be more than turn off your brain, follow point A to point B, and look at the pretty graphics.
The open world thing just finally came to a head for me this month. I've happily played dozens of open world games, and I'll probably play dozens more, but being extremely hyped for Forbidden West and then getting what we got, followed up by what Elden Ring delivered just highlighted how fucking dumb the average open world game is designed, and the fact that they are getting worse.
This "warring" you are seeing is because many us are, finally, fed up with how stupid developers think we are as gamers, and frankly how stupid other gamers are that need the sort of GPS direction and constant hand-holding that these games offer.
Anyway, going directly from a game that literally told you exactly what to do every step of the way, both with the UI and Aloy not shutting the fuck up, to something like Elden Ring, which just allows you to play and figure out stuff on your own, was not only a breath of fresh air, but it put it giant spotlight on just how horrible these games have become. They should be more than turn off your brain, follow point A to point B, and look at the pretty graphics.
Fake
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Say the legend that 4chan only act at The Games Award Show for Player Vote choise spam.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Its fine for those who prefer Elden Ring. We as gamers have a choice.
And for some people Horizon Forbidden West or Assassins Creed Odyssey is more than enough and that's fine too.
I was one of them.
Its only until recently that I tried my first From game in Dark Souls 3 and while it was tough in the beginning, I've come to appreciate why these types of games are popular but tomorrow I won't mind picking up your normal open world RPG game. Currently I'm playing Elden Ring and Cyberpunk on PC and really enjoying the shit out of both.
I've got friends who won't touch From games and are happy to play your normal open world RPG's and I've said this before that having variety in this genre is a good thing.
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Sentenza
Member
Best thing is, the author tried to make a parody but there are plenty of games that are ACTUALLY at this level of handholding.
Swift_Star
Banned
Again, ER is not innovative. It’s an iteration of everything that came before it. There’s nothing there that wasn’t done before by then or anyone else.
Craig of War
Banned
If devs want a more non-toxic online environment, they should start with themselves.
Elden Ring has performance issues but even with flaws it's more fun to play than any Assassin's Creed game ever made.
The last comment from the Guerilla dev, proves he likes games that guides him - "holds his hand".
To each their own, but dissing a better game than any of those studios ever made is just pathetic.
Amiga
Member
MangalaX
Neo Member
Yeah totally agree, I think Forbidden West got review bombed unnecessarily, when it improved almost on every aspect from the first one, and there are so many things going on (The friking AI of all those Dinobots), to me they're both good games in their area, but I love the open worldness of HFW more and graphically is superior in every aspect too
CosmicComet
Member
Elden Ring is better than any Ubisoft or even Sony 1st party game ever made. No cap.
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Vaelka
Member
Not liking a game is fine, the problem is when people think that because they don't like it that it's a problem and needs to be changed.
Just play another game.
ClosBSAS
Member
No...what's not acceptable is ppl losing saves. Performance issues are acceptable speciallly if they patch them, which they have. There's a fine line between what should be docked or not in terms of points. Bf2042 for bad reviews cause it's a shitty game with massive performance issues.
Thing is...with these repetitive ass open world boring games, u just have nothing else to review. Same shit every year, different name...might as well review how shitty it performs. Elden ring doesn't have that issue. It's a legit amazing game in which it's gameplay loop is reviewed and praised and not so much it's technical issues since we live in an era of post launch patches.
Elden ring is being reviewed and scored on how good it is. It's as simple as that.
Now, game breaking bugs like the save bug are unacceptable.
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