M1chl
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So normal workers has to make up for some bullshit management issues?
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Ubisoft Paris Employees To Strike Following Yves Guillemot Comments
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EDMIX
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lol yea ok, you spent all this energy trying to vilify this person and one of your fucking examples is something he did.
Might as well go to the next goal post on this one man, be like "ok ,but he is just doing it for PR"
( Yve's feeds the poor )
Winjer - "they not really poor, this is a stunt"
Poor person confirmed.
Winjer - "ok, but he is the one that made them poor doe"
We get it man, you fucking hate the company and are trying to find any reason to bash or attack em. Its not saying they are perfect, but doesn't help that you posted something Nintendo did, only to then try your best to pretend its now suddenly not a big fucking deal that Yve's did the same thing.
Seems like you made up your mind on this person already lol
jakinov
true, but its eating at this mans soul to know the thing Nintendo did, Yves did lol Thats not crow they are ready to eat just yet.
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Even if that's true, and many still lose their jobs, that's a better overall outcome for Ubisoft and the staffers that remain than if the current staff just sit around waiting to be laid off eventually.
As I said, better to go down fighting, even if it doesn't ultimately benefit you.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
I just don't think calling a strike because the CEO made a company-wide email is a smart move.
You pressure the top executive and he's not going to respond or retaliate directly on an individual level. He's separated by layer upon layer of management and his reaction is going to be applied through the same processes.
Now given this has all come up due to him basically telling the staff that cuts are coming, with the extent of those cuts being dependent on overall company-wide performance... Its just really dumb.
chromatic9
Member
I can see some big layoffs coming, probably will have to hang on to the odd big ip like AC, restructure and come back with some new creations.
I still remember seeing PoP get left behind on PS2 and they went full on with AC on a new generation (PS3/360) even as a PoP fan it was an exciting move, bold and 8 million sold. They need new juice.
I still remember seeing PoP get left behind on PS2 and they went full on with AC on a new generation (PS3/360) even as a PoP fan it was an exciting move, bold and 8 million sold. They need new juice.
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TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Depends on whether you really want to keep working at Ubisoft under a grossly incompetent leader like Yves or not.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
French people love unions and strikes. Not just a European thing. In Quebec it's the same. The culture has a big emphasis on job security and government social assistance programs.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Sorry, change starts at the top. Leadership team should be accepting responsibility for the very poor last couple years. They take credit for when things are going well, likewise they need to accept blame for when things are not going well.
Don’t blame your teams, blame yourselves for no recent hits. Ubisoft leadership lacks vision. It’s been clear for years, shouldn’t be surprising to anyone that they need to wake up and make some changes.
Don’t blame your teams, blame yourselves for no recent hits. Ubisoft leadership lacks vision. It’s been clear for years, shouldn’t be surprising to anyone that they need to wake up and make some changes.
Teletraan1
Banned
They just keep reskinning the same game over and over. They should just get an AI to do it.
{insert code here}
Member
Fuck socialism.
TransTrender
Gold Member
100% support the strike here.
Ubisoft is clearly a den of cunts with terrible leadership and culture. Yves Guillemot and the other execs can get fucked.
Ubisoft is clearly a den of cunts with terrible leadership and culture. Yves Guillemot and the other execs can get fucked.
//DEVIL//
Member
Lol to hell with these woke and cancel motherfuckers. I hope they all get fired.
Oh no how dare the CEO and our employer say it's up to us to make good games ? How dare he ? We need to spend our time talking shit on Twitter and get paid for our shit games we spent years in development and still look like shit and plays like shit they had to cancel our game and start over . How dare he !!! STRIKE !!!
Also fuck the management as well. Them and EA are the shit companies that started the monetization in games and release games half done with day one patches and shit.
Oh no how dare the CEO and our employer say it's up to us to make good games ? How dare he ? We need to spend our time talking shit on Twitter and get paid for our shit games we spent years in development and still look like shit and plays like shit they had to cancel our game and start over . How dare he !!! STRIKE !!!
Also fuck the management as well. Them and EA are the shit companies that started the monetization in games and release games half done with day one patches and shit.
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Scotty W
Gold Member
I have played about 2 hours of their games in the past 20 years. It is clear to me that they make very high quality products. But they are not interesting, and they glut the market.
In Cold Blood
Banned
Sure, because striking is going to make your game better, come out on time and get more sales.
Shut up and code the game. Game devs are in big demand, so if you don't like Ubisoft, quit your job and go to a better studio. Asobo makes good games.
Shut up and code the game. Game devs are in big demand, so if you don't like Ubisoft, quit your job and go to a better studio. Asobo makes good games.
EDMIX
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BadBurger
Is 'That Pure Potato'
I think some posters have just frankly never had a professional white collar job of this nature. This corporate exec double-meaning rhetoric is plain as day to those of us who have been in development environments, or even adjacent to them, for any significant amount of time.
Aside from that, imagine being of a mindset that you'd agree with an empty suit CEO over their thousands of crunching workers. I may not like what is coming out of Ubisoft these days, but I'll be damned if I ever bootlick some CEO like I was a IBM yes-man from the 1980's.
TheInfamousKira
Reseterror Resettler
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We hope you enjoy, and carve your own path into Kingdom Of the Flies - Grown Ass French People Edition
We hope you enjoy, and carve your own path into Kingdom Of the Flies - Grown Ass French People Edition
cash_longfellow
Gold Member
Perfect example of a big company that is going to sink due to being “woke”. I expect many more to follow. Good riddance, fuck your fake values, and fuck forcing inclusion. Hire the person most qualified for the job or expect your clown ass employee base to act out and force your hand 
gow3isben
Member
Everyone does including the workers and managers
Workers are doing a shit job just like the managers. I have longed since stopped playing their ass games.
TransTrender
Gold Member
Hah
Not quite
Ubi has been on my shitlist a year or two before EA.
Looking at this:
List of Ubisoft games - Wikipedia
Aside from some Ubi published games like No More Heroes 1/2 or Armored Core 2 the last four Ubi games I bought are:
Beyond Good and Evil
Rayman Legends
Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle
Mario + Rabbids Sparks of Hope (backlog)
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Warablo
Member
According to the FTC or CMA (can't remember): Ubi, Ea, Acti and Take-Two.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
So true. I'm surprised there hasn't been a Just Dance open world game yet. Or a Tom Clancy's Rayman Six.
Rivet
Member
"Cassoulet". Nah, we eat sandwiches and sausages during strikes. For a bit of context, today (thursday) is a big strike day in most corporations because our president just decided to push back the age of retirement by 2 years. A lot of people are in mood for strikes in France right now.
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AJUMP23
Gold Member
I saw a French farmer dumping manure on a government building today. Pretty great.
Rivet
Member
Ah ah, yes it actually happened several times before. They like to do that.
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MMaRsu
Banned
Actual clown
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
French love to strike. It’s a national sport.
Mibu no ookami
Member
Someone will buy their assets for pennies on the dollar in the coming years...
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I like how the guy who founded a small company and built it into a global power with 18,000 employees is somehow "grossly incompetent".
BbMajor7th
Member
Like every other tech firm, they treated the pandemic windfall as a growth trend rather than an anomaly. When reality struck and profits didn't follow predictions (blatant wish-thinking), they needed to make a show to shareholders that they were tackling the problem, so pledged to balance the books through cost savings. This happened at just about every tech company over the past eighteen months and will continue because the people in charge lack the courage or common sense to properly manage the expectations of their shareholders or parent companies. They wanted to take credit for the record uplift, instead, which meant they had to promise to replicate it post pandemic. Quelle surprise! They couldn't.
Ah, yes, that oh-so-modern trend of industrial action that only caught on - checks notes - over a century ago.Millennials
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MMaRsu
Banned
Leaders cant falter over time? He once had a great company, attracting creatives from all over. Michel Ancel, Jade Raymond, Patrice Desilets to name a few. Who is still there now besides some nameless developers? Who is heading up their teams?
Where is the direction, or better yet where are the good original games? Many franchises have been driven into the ground.
BbMajor7th
Member
God knows. Most of us would still enjoy all the benefits of a Victorian workhouse had workers never unionised. But sure, take you paid holiday, your medical insurance and your paternity/maternity leave for granted and call people with the courage to stand up for themselves and others a bunch of entitled losers.
Some people refused to be intimidated by people bigger and more powerful than them, others doff the cap and say 'yessir!' when the big man gives them the eye.
Nothing 'woke' or 'cancel' about industrial action. It's a tradition that stretches back to hairy-arse miners and factory workers more than a century ago; part of a grand human tradition of little people getting together to tell big people "naw, fuck that!" Takes balls though; it's not for everyone.
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ToTTenTranz
Banned
Imagine living in the absolute privilege of deciding you should go on strike because the CEO sent an e-mail asking for better utilization of the company's resources.
yurinka
Member
Both management and normal workers have to make up for some management and normal workers issues, and this is what they are doing. These mails and internal Q&As he sends are for everybody in the company: from the board of directors to the last trainee tester.
Games there are pitched from workers to studio managers, and then these studios pitch them to their editorial team, who set the basic vision for the company (agreed with the teams and considering their suggestions) greenlight games and milestones.
If the games didn't had enough quality, didn't perform well enough or got canned and there were (I assume mostly covid related) delays, or because CoD/GoW/Pokemon/Elden Ring performed particularly strong letting them less market than usual isn't something you can blame one people or group within them. They all have to improve, the whole team from top to bottom, and also need to be more productive and reduce costs to handle the bad year they had/will have. That's what Guillemot meant.
Ubi name comes from 'Union of Independent Bretons' because it started in the 80s with the Guillemot brothers helping a few independent devs who coded games for 8 bit computers on their bedrooms publish and distribute their cassette games and they were from the Bretony region of France.
Almost 40 years later that company has over 20000 workers in over 40 offices around the world, are the biggest European game publisher and one of the biggest 3rd party publishers in the world. They are a key partner for all platform holders and recently got the investment and support of the biggest gaming company on the world to allow that CEO and his brothers secure the control of the company against unwanted acquisitions. His workers defended/supported him and his brothers against a hostile takeover. The company yearly revenue has been growing for the last two decades or more.
There's nothing 'grossly incompetent' on him. After two decades of more of a yearly growth trend, they simply seem to be having a bad year -I assume due to a combination of covid, a few recent projects not performing as expected plus the accusations controversies- so obviously asked his whole team (which includes him and the management team) to make an effort to go back in track, which is what it's expected from a CEO/leader. That's all.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Michael Ancel made a bunch of games that would perform horribly in the modern market. He was pushed out for good reason.
Jade Raymond is a producer. She hires people. She doesn't create games.
Patrice Desilets just released a game that sold poorly and was poorly recieved by critics and gamers.
Ubisoft was doing exceptionally well in 2020. Games now take 6+ years to make. If you're not expecting some lean years in the industry then you're not paying attention. Ubisoft is fine. This is all clickbait and some like to feed the algorithm.
Can't agree on Michel Ancel. The guy is a fantastic game designer and Wild was prolly the only Ubisoft game I was looking for. I doubt it would have been a huge commercial success but it's the kind of project and the kind of person that will attract new talents. Actual talents. Pushing him out has hurt ubisoft.
yurinka
Member
The Michel Ancel games many times didn't work well in sales and traditionally also took forever to be made, BGE2 isn't the first, second or third one. At Ubisoft didn't care if his games underperformed because they were prestigious and the company could afford it. Some years ago he retired from gaming after a super fucking long career.
Back then he was working part time on Ubisoft on BGE2 and part time with a small team of indie friends outside Ubisoft on Wild. Both teams continued working on these projects after he left, his work was pretty much completed there.
Yes, part of her job as producer and later as studio manager/executive is/was to assemble teams, but also to lead them. And she did a great job in both things in a big number of super successful games including new IPs and in different companies. She has a brilliant career since she started as coder.
Yes, without the rest of the Ubisoft team behind he only released a game that didn't perform well in sales or reviews.
Yup.
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xcalibersa
Member
Some of you are real corporate shills.
The blame for making shit games lies at the feet of the CEO. If had no understanding of what was happening or that taking the one formula that worked 10 years ago and milking it dry would cause all these issues then he is useless.
The blame for making shit games lies at the feet of the CEO. If had no understanding of what was happening or that taking the one formula that worked 10 years ago and milking it dry would cause all these issues then he is useless.
FBeeEye
Banned
Are you saying they are as lazy as Grecians?