Fredrik
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Horizon is bundled so 20 million is not enough unless PS5 stops selling. It’ll sell exactly as much as the number of bundles they make.
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UK Physical Chart: Horizon Forbidden West displaces Xenoblade Chronicles 3 at the top of the charts. GT7 back to the top 5. Demon's Souls top 20.
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prinz_valium
Member
Well "good" is a question of definition. Still way behind last year
Just a few 100 hundred units ahead of Xbox Series now
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Good enough to jump from third to second in just two months of decent availability since the beginning of the year.
The actually good part is that this time last year sales were slowing down, now we're in a upwards period which should last for the rest of the year (unless a war happens in Taiwan and everyone is fucked).
remember_spinal
Banned
Xenoblade 2 came out with an install base of like 12 million, this one came out on an install base of 110 million, that alone should have gave it a significant boost. Besides that the hype this time around was palpable. I do think people were thinking it would be a major step up sales wise, especially over series like Tales of Arise, maybe comparable to a Nier or Persona 5 vanilla.
Seems like with the major influx of switch users, bigger word of mouth, and way better reviews, the series didn’t get a significant bump in sales. Just doing a bit better than Xenoblade Chronicles 2 seems the franchise hit its ceiling with switch owners. It’s too hardcore of a game for the majority of switch owners
prinz_valium
Member
Ps5 will bit $1000+ again
But UK sales are really bad this year.
Here are the estimates until June. 2 weeks are missing and not tracked
YTD:
NSW ~235k (vs ~340k last year)
XBS ~216k (vs ~280k last year)
PS5 ~198k (vs ~390k last year)
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TheTony316
Member
Yeah, i can see that. Even as a JRPG fan, i couldn't get into it. I tried to like it but gave up after 20 hours. The combat mechanics are just way too convoluted, the UI is bloated and the wayfinder/map is just confusing.
remember_spinal
Banned
Im about just over 20 hours and feel myself struggling to find motivation to turn it back on. Its not even bad, I don’t know why i find it to be such a chore to get into. I feel like everything is just meant to be time draining.
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Astral Dog
Member
im guessing it should definetly pass Tales of Arise worldwide. the last number they gave us was 2 million on April(that game should be selling way more!
)but thats with some sales and multiple consoles.i don't see Xenoblade ever reaching Final Fantasy or Persona numbers unfortunately, could be because of the artstyle(like Tales) or the combat/design.its an enormous game with lots of clutter on the menus.personally im not a fan of that or parts of the storytelling.
Nier became a monster, pretty much a surprise to everyone, but Xenoblade 3 can still be considered a success even if it doesn’t reach other series numbers
im hoping, however that the next mainline Fire Emblem is another breakout hit for the series and passses 4 million. they should have improved the presentation by now, can't wait to see it! that one has shown the potential to be way bigger than Xenoblade, but they need to tweak some things out with Tecmo
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GhostOfTsu
Banned
Kind of too late for that. They never did anything with Demons Souls after Elden Ring came out. They are awful at marketing.
remember_spinal
Banned
im guessing it should definetly pass Tales of Arise worldwide. the last number they gave us was 2 million on April(that game should be selling way more!
i don't see Xenoblade ever reaching Final Fantasy or Persona numbers unfortunately, could be because of the artstyle(like Tales) or the combat/design.its an enormous game with lots of clutter on the menus.personally im not a fan of that or parts of the storytelling.
Nier became a monster, pretty much a surprise to everyone, but Xenoblade 3 can still be considered a success even if it doesn’t reach other series numbers
im hoping, however that the next mainline Fire Emblem is another breakout hit for the series and passses 4 million. they should have improved the presentation by now, can't wait to see it! that one has shown the potential to be way bigger than Xenoblade, but they need to tweak some things out with Tecmo
Put mario in it and it will hit 5 m
Its not too late at all, it will get a nice boost from PC. Some of you forget that Sony is also invested in Elden Ring selling on their platform also, which it still is
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Nautilus
Banned
Lets wait until Nintendo divulge the sales figures to jump to any conclusion, shall we?
remember_spinal
Banned
I mean, its a sales thread. What else is there to discuss?
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Well, and it's going to keep being #2. It was the best selling console over there for 2 or 3 months in a row. It actually has a shot at being #1 by the end of the year since it's clear Sony's 3 markets where they send more units is USA > UK > Japan.
I hope the rest of Europe gets those units close to Christmas like Sony is promising.
Imagine a God of War + PS5 bundle Jesus Christ. Specially since Sony has the most empty November for new releases in... history?
God of War has a shot at being the #2 best selling game from Q4 worldwide only behind Call of Duty that's available in every platform... it's going to do big numbers for them.
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Why is Battlefield 2042 a surprise when that saw a price drop to £17 at argos? Do you only look for reasons on one side or something?
remember_spinal
Banned
Sea of thieves
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I really want to like Horizon but I just can't get into it. It's pretty though.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
You think Sea of Thieves will outsell...God of War?
remember_spinal
Banned
I never doubt ubisoft
Ansphn
Member
There are several types of bundles and just the PS5 though. It's not like like every PS5 sold is bundled with Horizon.
iHaunter
Member
There was another wave of hardware in EU. That's why the Sony game sales increased again.
Touch fuzZy. get BizZay
Member
Maybe UK are tired of hearing european accents everywhere they go. They want a game with a good thick american accent
Fredrik
Member
I know but nobody who wants a PS5 right now is going to go ”Nah then I’ll wait” if they can get access to a Horizon bundle, nothing sits on a shelf, everything they send to stores will get sold.
Ansphn
Member
But still it's a mix of different bundles and just the PS5 systems. You spoke as if everything Playstation produce and send out the door is bundled with Horizon when it's not facts.
Astral Dog
Member
I get now what your point is, Nintendo has been getting far better at selling a wider variety of content these last years than previous generations, they always had an issue when Super Mario or Pokemon outshined every third party on the sales chart, and that always caused a few struggles with their fanbase and other publishers, their perception among 'hardcore' gamers has been huh, mixed when they talk about buying a Nintendo console.
But, every company challenges are different , Mario is one of gamming's greatest icons, they will always care about the plumber and their classic series, its impossible not to, wouldn't be standing were they are today otherwise.a wide variety of gamers young and old, core and casual care about Mario, Pokemon, and now Animal Crossing. They will always develop and publish these games for everyone, they just aren't hardcore exclusive like the other companies lol and that's fine
Still they been trying to push other content, genres and age ratings, all success they are having with third parties today didn't costed them nothing and while their sales data is far more modest than say PlayStation, its getting a lot better because they keep throwing money at third parties, new collaborations,new hardware, advertisement, surprises, actually have been surprising us a lot longtime Nintendo gamers.
Those 2 million of Xenoblade Chronicles was a ton of hard work of publishing multiple games across 3 generations, but they didn't give up on Monolith Soft and kept improving as a publisher, even been willing to go outside their bubble and find developers to work with closely and support, for example Warriors games are a lot different today thanks to Nintendo. Their relationship with Tecmo is very strong, also been taking care of Shin Megami Tensei with Atlus, Monster Hunter with Capcom(spinoff and main), Bayonetta with SEGA after they couldn't afford to, and even smaller niche titles like Deadly Premonition(apparently Switch was the only chance this team had at making a sequel,some time later it came to PC)
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
What is honestly the point of physical-only charts anymore?
Isn’t the ratio of digital to physical more than 70/30 now? And that’s only going to increase.
Isn’t the ratio of digital to physical more than 70/30 now? And that’s only going to increase.
remember_spinal
Banned
Monolith soft paid for itself with breath of the wild co-development alone. People never factor in the contribution that cross studio development/expertise brings when you acquire studios.
Thats why Bungie will ultimately be worth its salt
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Bernd Lauert
Banned
Because it's a piece of shit game. Apparently good enough for 17 pounds though.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
It's a small piece of information regarding the gaming market. It's better than nothing but not by very much tbh.
The ratio differs between consoles. On Xbox, for example, the digital to physical ratio is closer to 90/10.
Kagey K
Banned
Can you point to one that's been in stock recently without it?
Everywhere I see it's nothing but Horizon bundles.
TheGodfather07
Member
This chart accounts for like under 5k sales, so who gives a shit?
Kagey K
Banned
There hadn't Bern a point in over 2 years, but people love making them.
Kagey K
Banned
I really like sales numbers, and spend a lot of time from a lot of sources compiling them, so I guess I do.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Is it anecdotal evidence based inductive reasoning you are asking others to disprove?
Good thing about inductive reasoning used as an absolute proof is that only one counter example is needed… well here is is
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Don’t we all
.Was going to say Fifa because of the WC bump but that also comes out a day before Q4.
I also think Pokemon is going to be number 2.
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chromatic9
Member
Shame about digital taking over, I thought there was a plan to have both included in the charts years ago.
Anyway, used copies of Demon's Souls sell on ebay for around £15-20, that is the going rate. PSN are charging are whopping £43.39p "on sale" for a 2 year old remake of an old game and the sale ends on the 17th for Christ's sake. Argos etc are selling it for £35.
If digital on console could actually be priced well after 2 years I could understand.
Anyway, used copies of Demon's Souls sell on ebay for around £15-20, that is the going rate. PSN are charging are whopping £43.39p "on sale" for a 2 year old remake of an old game and the sale ends on the 17th for Christ's sake. Argos etc are selling it for £35.
If digital on console could actually be priced well after 2 years I could understand.
yazenov
Member
Its valuable information actually and since we know the digital to physical ratio, we can estimate and extrapolate the data.
Without the physical charts and the tiny bits of data from the articles and twitter, we wont know how well games our doing. I mean, what alternative do we have?
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
It was available for like 19.99 at amazon and currys and 25 pounds in places last week. Absolutely insane pricing...
The number one reason I've stuck with physical. Places are selling horizon for like 32 quid brand new at the minute too, so working well alongside the bundles.
Just shows the demand for games at below that insane 70 pound pricing and fans willing to wait.
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Lucifers Beard
Member
I picked up Xenoblade Chronicles 3 just because the last game seemed to go up in price over the years (physical copies anyway). Figured I should just grab it before I end up paying £50+ in the next few months.
I also think that anyone that wanted to play it picked it up day one. Nintendo games rarely drop in price so point waiting it out really.
I also think that anyone that wanted to play it picked it up day one. Nintendo games rarely drop in price so point waiting it out really.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
JRPGs always have a huge drop-off in the 2nd week, especially in the UK. XC3 numbers are still good.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Xeno 2 sold about 2-2.5mil and was considered a big success on those numbers.
With digital sales and time, Xeno 3 will hit 2-3mil I'm sure which will be another success for the series. I can also imagine they'll release a remastered version for Switch 2, as the visuals are very nice and would benefit for a nice IQ and FPS boost.
With digital sales and time, Xeno 3 will hit 2-3mil I'm sure which will be another success for the series. I can also imagine they'll release a remastered version for Switch 2, as the visuals are very nice and would benefit for a nice IQ and FPS boost.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Forgot about Pokémon. You're right!
All Playstation games including Spiderman Miles Morales, which is also included on PS+, got a boost in the charts.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
No sign of Returnal and Ratchet though, so it's not all games. Miles is an evergreen either way.
lostinblue
Banned
Where can I pre-order that?
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Miles was out of the UK charts (top 40) and came back in at 23. This isn't NPD.
OuterLimits
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it's actually quite common with games in that genre.