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Valve’s latest Steam Deck video featured a Switch emulator.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
I doubt it's a goof, these valve mfkers know exactly what they are doing.
Tarin02543
Member
AV
We ain't outta here in ten minutes, we won't need no rocket to fly through space
IWasInSeinfeld
Member
Lol.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
As long as they don't actually show pirated Switch software running on it I don't think Nintendo can say much.
(Let's be honest, most if not all emulated Switch games are pirated - and no, it doesn't matter if you actually own a copy of the game.)
(Let's be honest, most if not all emulated Switch games are pirated - and no, it doesn't matter if you actually own a copy of the game.)
Lumpyoatmeal
Member
TintoConCasera
Banned
Wait till I call the Based Department. They ain't gonna believe this one.
Interfectum
Member
Emulators aren’t illegal.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Wasnt there a case where good ol Nintendo was using dodgy roms in certain games? Or emulators? Cant remember off the top of my head.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Nintendo better be ready for next gen switch isn’t a treat anymore now that steam deck is around Nintendo at its best is operating as part of a big 3 (ms, Sony, Nintendo).
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
Yup:
Did Nintendo sell us a ROM of Super Mario Bros.?
Hackers do what Nintenwon’t The Virtual Console on the Wii and Wii U has been pretty crappy. While there are...
www.destructoid.com
.Pennywise
Banned
Let me taste those Nintenbots tears
KungFucius
Member
Really. It doesn't matter if you buy a game and rip it with the switch you bought but choose to play it on an emulator on a computer you bought because it runs better than it does on the switch because why exactly?
I don't really care one way or another. The switch is very weak and I could see someone wanting to play game in the best way possible. It is so strange that in many cases that is via emulation while the system is still selling and a game just released. Nintendo should be motivated to make the next system more powerful or otherwise unique just to avoid this happening again. It sucks for switch owners that people can play better looking versions of the exact game with little to no downside on their PC.
Deft Beck
Member
I thought they hired an early NES emulator developer who used that style of ROM header.Yup:
Did Nintendo sell us a ROM of Super Mario Bros.?
Hackers do what Nintenwon’t The Virtual Console on the Wii and Wii U has been pretty crappy. While there are...
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Yup:
Did Nintendo sell us a ROM of Super Mario Bros.?
Hackers do what Nintenwon’t The Virtual Console on the Wii and Wii U has been pretty crappy. While there are...
What does that mean? Of course they sold us a ROM. All virtual console games (and now all Nintendo Online retro games) are ROMs. Did they think Nintendo actually ported each game to the new consoles?
Did they mean specifically a pirated ROM?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
That's awesome lol
MidGenRefresh
Member
I ordered mine today. 1-2 weeks waiting time. Excited to double down on PC gaming.
LazyParrot
Member
The header was created by Marat Fayzullin, who has never worked for Nintendo.
Yeah, the ROM was almost certainly pirated. Don't expect Nintendo to ever admit it, though.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
I knew it! The filthy rats!
Portugeezer
Member
Legally, sure... But it matters in the sense that most people don't give a shit as long as you bought the game.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Aye, I think it was a hooky one off of certain 'sites'
Jinzo Prime
Member
I'm a Nintendo fanboy and emulated Breath of the Wild is the best way to experience the game imho (with a Gyro capable controller on Cemu).
Arcadialane
Member
Not cool. Get em Nintendo
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Taken from the article: If one does some digging through the actual data files of the Virtual Console’s port of the perennial classic, you’ll find a line of code that is only present in dumped ROM files online. As a matter of fact, this extra line of code matches some of the ROMs one can find from various sites.
Looks like lazy ass Nintendo pulled their own rom off an online rom site. And then sold it for $50-$60.
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
The point being they didn't dump the ROM themselves. Which is hilarious given their stance on emulators and ROMs. Eurogamer's article linked by Destructoid goes into more details:
Did Nintendo download a Mario ROM and sell it back to us?
Nintendo's stance on emulation has always been a rigid one. As far as the company is concerned, if you're downloading a…
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SmokedMeat
Gamer™
All I know is if I want to rip my Switch games to play on Steam Deck, I’m ripping my Switch games to Steam Deck!
Captain Toad
Member
Let's be honest here. What percentage of people downloading ROMs are going out of their way to buy a copy of the game for a platform they aren't going to play it on?
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Bragr
Banned
Because it's specifically created to use on Nintendo systems. It's how Nintendo survives, the game and system have a mutual relationship. By using the Nintendo ecosystem, you increase the metrics and make it more likely you will spend money on Nintendo services.
Also, most people pirate, sure, some buy the games, but it's a gateway drug into the shitty gamer universe. Don't support it.
What you are doing is like playing Game Pass games through the PS Plus app.
I hate to say this again because all the emulator folks start to cry and moan, but emulating new games when you don't have to (as with older lost games), it's petty and embarrassing.
Bragr
Banned
Apparently everyone on Neogaf. Right after they give half their salary to charity and help the old lady across the street.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Steam Deck runs WiiU and Switch games pretty good. It's a nice option to have.
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
Hahahahah, Nintendo tried to DMCA tons of videos showing Nintendo games running on the deck, so now corporations like valve and LTT are making even more prominent videos to show this feature. Gotta love when censorship bites it's own ass.
Yup:
Did Nintendo sell us a ROM of Super Mario Bros.?
Hackers do what Nintenwon’t The Virtual Console on the Wii and Wii U has been pretty crappy. While there are...
This has been debunked few years ago.The point being they didn't dump the ROM themselves. Which is hilarious given their stance on emulators and ROMs. Eurogamer's article linked by Destructoid goes into more details:
Did Nintendo download a Mario ROM and sell it back to us?
Nintendo's stance on emulation has always been a rigid one. As far as the company is concerned, if you're downloading a…www.eurogamer.net
kiphalfton
Member
Valve has the best lawyers. Let Nintendo try.
kiphalfton
Member
Actually ripping games is extremely easy on Wii and Wii U. And games WERE cheap a few years back. Not sure about now.
It's not out of the question.
Setsuna Mudou
Member
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Increasing those Deck Verified numbers
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
daveonezero
Gold Member
The shiftiest side of gaming is huge multi national corporations using antiquated IP law to regulate and control the property people legitimately bought.
Shutting down services and restricting access to entire libraries.
Arbitrarily charging for each purchase.
Like it or not ripping games and being able to play them on a wide variety of hardware is not losing these people any money and in fact preserving huge libraries.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
As someone currently playing Pokemon Acreus and Zelda:BotW on my pc, this absolutely cannot stand! /s
LazyParrot
Member
That's not really debunking anything. The VC ROM header being identical to the one in Animal Crossing could just as easily be "proof" that Nintendo were already using "illegal" ROMs all the way back in 2001. It also doesn't explain why those headers are there to begin with. None of Nintendo's own emulators even make use of them, and they are conspicuously absent in VC ROMs for later consoles like the Wii U and 3DS.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
2 hours? What are you running on yours to get that?
TintoConCasera
Banned
Industry should try to appeal to the public's needs, and not the other way around.
If Nintendo wants me to not emulate their games, then they should release some new and more capable hardware. No way I'm playing all those cool games at shitty resolutions and with shitty framerates.
Bragr
Banned
Then don't play them.
Trying to make an argument about how Nintendo doesn't do exactly what you want, to justify your actions, is ridiculous. It's you that are the problem in this equation, not Nintendo. If you don't like the product, don't use it.
TintoConCasera
Banned
But I like the games, and I have hardware that plays those games better than my Switch.
Not using that better hardware would be kinda dumb, don't you think?
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