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Will Elden Ring over take TLOU2 as the most awarded goty of all time?
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elcapitano
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God of War Rangnarok is only a solid 7/10 game. It's not tough competition either .
Gaiff
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This is definitely strange. It remained consistent from 2014 to 2019 with a slight uptick in 2018 but it absolutely exploded in 2020, only to return to normal levels in 2021.
Handel
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2013 is also an outlier, so it's probably a matter of new consoles launching more than anything. 2020 also had the pandemic giving people more time to play games, and also more time for the trackers to hunt down every award across the globe. Which sites are counted isn't a consistent metric, for instance this year the gameawards.net site is excluding personal GOTY lists, even if posted by a big media outlet like Forbes or Times(at least two people need to have been part of the process of picking the GOTY). There might well have been more than 432 outlets that gave out GOTY in 2021, but not all got tracked down.
YoungEmperor96
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Elden ring has 46/61 GOTY awards so far, about 75%. TLOU2 had 332/640, about 50%. Depending on the amount of GOTY will decide whether ER can exceed TLOU2 or not
balls of snow
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Yeah no shit. Elden Ring would be lucky to surpassed Zelda BotW goty awards before even thinking of tlou2.Some people can't be objective The Thread
Mercenary09
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LOL no chance
Swift_Star
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Cope.
Beer Baelly
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Current tracking according to https://goty.gamefa.com/year/2022/
Putting image in spoiler due to obnoxious size. Here's the Top 5 so far:
Elden Ring has 253 total as of this morning.
anthraticus
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A big...
FunkMiller
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I hope so.
I'd much rather a game that's upfront about its content, and doesn't actively deceive the audience, be the one with the most awards.
I'd much rather a game that's upfront about its content, and doesn't actively deceive the audience, be the one with the most awards.
MiguelItUp
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It did to me, as an infinitely better game in so many different ways. Which, is my opinion, and matters more to me than other's. So, eh.
I didn't think TLOU2 was an awful game by any means. Just like GOWR. I just think they're extremely overhyped, and their previous iteration was a better experience through and through.
For me, Elden Ring just felt like a superior game, and one that I actually played more than was forced to sit and watch. Felt like another breath of fresh air in this year's "AAA" realm.
I didn't think TLOU2 was an awful game by any means. Just like GOWR. I just think they're extremely overhyped, and their previous iteration was a better experience through and through.
For me, Elden Ring just felt like a superior game, and one that I actually played more than was forced to sit and watch. Felt like another breath of fresh air in this year's "AAA" realm.
Bumblebeetuna
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Surely not, I feel like there are a lot of platform specific sites for all platforms that typically give their GOTY to the biggest exclusive on that platform. Plus it seems like there are less sites overall than there used to be.
xpresstuning
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Elden Ring - 285 awards currently, and rising.
It's close
for now.That TLOU Part II record is going down.
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lachesis
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If there was abundant internet and gaming media and all in 80s and early 90s like today - there would be many other games that would have toppled 300+
Just like there are more games in sports leagues and all, etc. Not discounting the quality of the games, and some awards do count as its measurement of the quality... but in general, I don't really consider GOTY numbers much. I mean, it must be a good game to win any GOTY recognition according to their own standards and tastes, but fixation in the numbers doesn't really mean anything to me.
Just like there are more games in sports leagues and all, etc. Not discounting the quality of the games, and some awards do count as its measurement of the quality... but in general, I don't really consider GOTY numbers much. I mean, it must be a good game to win any GOTY recognition according to their own standards and tastes, but fixation in the numbers doesn't really mean anything to me.
K2D
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Isn't this very contentious? Aren't fans split in the middle about story, but agreed on gameplay? (..or you mean critics..)
Madflavor
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Yeah everyone pretty much came together on the gameplay and technical side of TLOU2, in that it was all exceptional. It was the story that divided people.
I wouldn't be so sure. Elden Ring has 290 right now. It's 33 awards away from passing TLOU2 at this point. If the previous years are anything to go by, around 20% of the total GoTY awards still come post New Years Eve. I think in the case of TLOU2, the last GOTY award it received was in April 2021.
Unless there's a sudden and dramatic shift toward God of War: Ragnarok, Elden Ring is on lock to be the new record holder.
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Madflavor
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This is true. As far as I'm aware random social media accounts aren't being counted this year. I think that podcasts are a recent addition though, but likely not to the crazy extend as the random social media accounts were in 2020.
Trazyn the Infinite
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Let's ignore the fact that the majority of the "GotY" awards were proven to be fake for TLOU2. Let's also ignore the fact that GotY awards are always completely idiotic and a waste of time.
Who gives a shit? The only ones who seem to care about GotY so ardently are warriors and mentally stunted man-children who need validation for their purchase decisions.
Who gives a shit? The only ones who seem to care about GotY so ardently are warriors and mentally stunted man-children who need validation for their purchase decisions.
Madflavor
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It's a circus, but a circus can still be fun to entertaining to watch.
Jimmyisback
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Probably bunch of fake sites and blogs were counted.
sandbood
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That's because gameawards.net was handled by a sole TLOU2/Sony fanboy and he decided what to include and what to exclude in 2020. He was salty in 2019 when gotypicks blog didn't call Death Stranding as the goty in that year and created his own goty tracking website.
Gotypicks blog only has 180 goty awards for TLOU2 in comparison to 322 goty awards on his website that he pulled from whatever bullshits he found on the internet.
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3liteDragon
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The site's up, how do you know he's a Sony fanboy? Or are you just pulling shit out of ur ass? His GOTY list on the left includes a bunch of different games.
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DForce
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Madflavor
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Why you quoting me? I didn't say most of TLOU2's awards back in 2020 were fake.
My stance on it is that the one guy who ran the site, Kyle Key, was pumping the numbers up by accounting for any social media account that named their GOTY, no matter who they were or how many followers they had. This isn't news, it's been known for awhile now, and ResetEra called him out on it. He's a known avid Sony fan, and was clearly bias in his selection on who could count toward the aggregate. It's also no coincidence that his site went dark went it became clear early last month that Elden Ring was going to absolutely dominate the GOTY awards against God of War: Ragnarok. A Sony first party title. To give you a quick perspective on it, in 2019 there were 471 awards total. In 2020 there were 642. In 2021 there were 444 total. How do you go from 471 to 642 and then back down to 444 in the span of three years? That's roughly a 200 difference. That's how places like ResetEra noticed and caused them to go digging around.
So in a way, TLOU2 beating the The Witcher 3's previous record of 281 was a total sham.
DForce
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Why am I quoting you? Because you replied with "this is true" when the sandbood said most awards are fake.
Skimming through the list, there are obviously a lot of websites that are counted that are not found in either 2019 or 2021. Many awards given in 2020 are from euro websites that are no doubt legit with a few questionable ones that I'm seeing so far.
If there are merely a handful of questionable awards from blogs, social media accounts, then there's no need to pretend like it happened with a good portion of the awards that TLOU 2 received.
anothertech
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"who the fuck cares!"
Goes on to post walls of text about subject.
Goes on to post walls of text about subject.
Madflavor
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I see where you're coming from. I agreed with sandblood on the sentiment that the owner of the website fucked around with the count back in 2020, but I'm not hung up on the semantics of him using the word fake. That's probably not the word I would choose, but I saw where he was coming from and I agreed.
You can find some examples of individual nobody accounts on here or over on Era. In 2020 I was a part of the discussion about this and there were a lot of examples being brought up of accounts that really should not have been counted. And I mean a lot.
Not sure what you mean by random. If you mean "random accounts from different parts of the world that nobody's heard of", then yes those can count depending on whether or not they meet the stricter guidelines. Additionally to make sure the new tracking website (https://goty.gamefa.com/year/2022/) is following these stricter guidelines, there's a ResetEra member by the name of Brick who has an ongoing thread. He's going through every Media and Reader's Choice outlet individually to filter and make sure everything meets that new standard. The guidelines are as follows:Madflavor
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Just curious.
Did you question ANY of these awards given out to Elden Ring, even though some awards on this list were given out by random accounts?
- At least two staff members need to be part of the award selection process.
- It must be made visibly clear by the outlet that the GOTY has been chosen by more than one staff member. There are a lot of articles being published by single individual; they or the language must make it clear that their GOTY have been chosen by the staff through voting, discussions or a collaborative agreement. You can very easily tell is a GOTY has been chosen by an single individual if the site/gaming portion is mostly filled with articles written by the same individual.
- Digital media outlets such as Podcast and Video Sharing Sites are not required to have their own website/domain name, but they must prove to have either well known members of the gaming industry, have a respectable amount of followers/subscribers and/or must have been active and producing content for at least a year.
- Outlets posting awards and/or having an eligibility cutoff before November 1st for the current year will not be counted.
- If a tie occurs, then both winners will be counted.
- The number of titles awarded needs to be fewer than the number of staff on the voting team. For example, an outlet with three voting staff members cannot simply name each of their separate, personal favorites as the three different winners and call that a draw; if those three staff members have two titles tie as the result of a points system however, those two titles would be eligible. A maximum of three titles will be accepted as a points-based draw.
- If a media outlet has their staff members choose their own personal GOTYs. Then the title(s) with the chosen majority will be considered that media outlet's overall GOTY winner.
So as of this morning the current tally on https://goty.gamefa.com/year/2022/ is 301 total for Elden Ring. So far Brick's count as of last night was 266 total, but he's still getting caught up.
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Toots
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The question is more will the GOTY awards that Elden Ring will get
Dude's legit. 4 likes is half of what the french gvt get when they publish a tweet, counting bots.
But seriously the GOTYE craze in gaming is insane, and shows how much marketing driven and colluded the media is.
Dude's legit. 4 likes is half of what the french gvt get when they publish a tweet, counting bots.
But seriously the GOTYE craze in gaming is insane, and shows how much marketing driven and colluded the media is.
Bumblebeetuna
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Mozzarella
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This!
I have been saying that since 2 years ago already, lol, These GOTY trackers are so much bullshit, when TLOU2 was declared the ultimate winner i was one of the few who went out of my way and checked the source material, i started clicking on these articles and i was baffled how it could have been counted as 1 point towards the total GOTY in the same way an award from Gamespot would count as 1, which is totally unbalanced and unfair, i called it inflated at that point but i remember one of the winners was literally an Instagram page with few followers only, people went out of their way to count any award that they could find just to make the count bigger, they wanted to stick it out to the Anti SJWs or something, its literally "hyping and liking a game to own the libs" except in the opposite way lol.
Although its good that some of these links are getting exposed i want to note that the tracker thing is still unbalanced because it counts 2 awards one big and one small as the same value, so im not sure how much importance it actually holds but hopefully at the very least these outlets will be legit this time.
Actually you can probably find some of my posts here in 2020 talking about this issue.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
No, your main complaint is that TLOU 2 was receiving awards from random accounts to boost the number of awards it received. You have been complaining about this for months if not years.
Madflavor
Now let's take a look at what you shared in another thread.
Did you say anything about the awards that were given out?
Here are a few examples.
151. Into The Aether (US)
155. Swapping Joysticks (UK)
193. Ultraverso (BR)
184. Si No Sabes, Pacote Metes (ES)
224. The DMGT (US)
296. Story Mode Gaming (AU)
306. The Smash Hit Chronicles (US)
If this was The Last of Us, you would be all over it and critical of the awards given out.
But it's Elden Ring and you haven't said a word.
tommib
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Jimmyisback
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YIKES!! I always knew that site was full of shit.
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Madflavor
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Look I'm not going to look over you entire post because there's one red flag with your response to me that caught me eye. You gave me a list of GOTY examples this year that should not be counted toward Elden Ring. I looked at the first one you gave me which was:
151. Into The Aether (US)
https://www.youtube.com/@intothecast
The problem here is that In The Aether perfectly fits into the new guidelines which I listed for you. If you look into their About section for their podcast:
https://intothecast.online/
One of the members of Into The Aethar has over 1k followers, and the other member has nearly 3k. Not a ton, but certainly better than the one I posted earlier that had 52 followers. Additionally these guys were named "Esquire's Gaming Podcast of 2021". Here's their posting:
Best Gaming Podcast
Into the Aether
Into the Aether, hosted by Stephen Hilger and Brendon Bigley, is the best video game podcast of 2021. And it’s also the only video game podcast that has allowed me to come on and yell about Wii Sports Resort. Those two facts are by no means connected! Really, though, ITA has had a big 2021. Look no further than its Twitter page in the past few weeks, where troves of listeners have posted Spotify 2021 wrap-ups proudly revealing Aether as their #1 podcast of the year. Stephen and Brendon, the self-described (not) low-key game historians, spent a big chunk of the year digging through the Game Boy Advance’s library, gathering enough cartridges to fill, I imagine, a bathtub. And the result, other than an expectedly charming mega-episode about 32-bit Nintendo history, was everyone I know buying themselves a modded Game Boy Advance (you should stop by RetroDodo.com for throwback handheld recommendations, by the way). It’s this commitment to game preservation and the friendlier side of gaming discourse that made ITA a main part of my 2021 listening line-up. —D.N.So I'm sorry to burst your bubble but these guys do meet the new critieria for being counted to the GOTY aggregate. So I'm not going to waste anymore time going through the rest of the examples you listed. You're free to go through each award one by one if you like. But the difference between this year and 2020's is that 2020's was done by a single individual with a known bias for Sony titles. This year is a collaborative effort by a bunch of ResetEra members, and we all know how committed and psychotic they can be. If an award gets listed that doesn't meet the criteria, they will filter it out.
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
Sorry, but you got busted.
You're complaining about the awards given almost 3 years later and completely ignored it for Elden Ring. If these were "the new rules" then you wouldn't say anything about this after all these years.
Notice this goalpost moving.
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Your excuses aren't working. We know why you hold different standards for TLOU and Elden Ring.
DenchDeckard
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The insanity of some people to inflate that last of us 2 number is crazy to me. I heard it was fake but that's crazy how bad it was.
Adding twitter accounts with 52 followers lol
Then weren't naughty dog or Sony using that "over 300 goty awards" quotes when talking about the game.
That's pretty sad, chief.
Hopefully wlden ring beats the shit out of it honestly as its much more deserved. Slimy ass snake moves.
Adding twitter accounts with 52 followers lol
Then weren't naughty dog or Sony using that "over 300 goty awards" quotes when talking about the game.
That's pretty sad, chief.
Hopefully wlden ring beats the shit out of it honestly as its much more deserved. Slimy ass snake moves.
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DForce
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You have twitter accounts with barely any followers giving out awards to Elden Ring.
Why is this being ignored? lol
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