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[twilo99]

Not gonna lie, that 1TB requirement is kinda unfortunate. I got one 1TB and a 500GB PCIe 4.0 M.2 NVMe and it would be a shame to be only able to use one for direct storage gaming.

Agreed on the 1TB, I just think its good that they have strict requirements for it instead of trying to support 10 year old hardware and making a mess out of it, which they tend to do.

That being said, the CPU support list has shrunk quite a bit...

 

[VAVA Mk2]

Best for gaming since they have a monopoly on directx.

Copying whatever they can from macOS and call it a new windows.

I sure love Microsoft lol

What related to gaming did they copy from Apple?

 

[Bernd Lauert]

People found a way to bitch about a free upgrade... amazing

 

[twilo99]

"And on Windows 11, DirectX 12 Ultimate will likely leverage other perks that come by default with Xbox Series X/S, including a more efficient texture-loading technique dubbed Sampler Feedback Streaming."

DirectStorage on Windows 11: Next-gen gaming performance, with PC requirements | Ars Technica


"During the Game Stack DirectStorage presentation, Microsoft said that they were working to improve the storage stack of the OS in general. Games that directly use DirectStorage will obviously be the most optimal, but I wonder if we see better load times in general for non-DirectStorage games, too."

 

[yamaci17]

so much for zen being "future proof". 4 years later and first zens are not officially supported...

 

[EDMIX]

No complaints from me. W10 is great already. If they want to bring new enhancements with 11 while copying some stuff from Apple then be my guest.

Its not like Apple doesnt copy stuff.

Agreed. Thats part of the game.

Took a while for Win 10 to be great though, but that is pretty much all OS anyway. I'll hold off for a few years as I'm sure most of what i use for work won't be Win 11 required or something.

 

[nkarafo]

So... whatever happened to Windows 10 being the last Windows they will ever release?

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Welp... DirectStorage is exclusive to Windows 11.

Not surprised at all.

Which is totally Microsoft's right as the creators of DirectStorage, Xbox and Windows 11. If you want to give people reasons to consider upgrading sooner rather than later, awesome features like this are a good place to start.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

So... whatever happened to Windows 10 being the last Windows they will ever release?

Strategy, strategy. People love the feeling of getting "new" things with new features and stylish interfaces. It's free marketing. This could have been a windows 10 release, but they chose to market it as a windows 11, and it's getting way more hype because of that simple marketing decision.

 

[nkarafo]

Strategy, strategy. People love the feeling of getting "new" things with new features and stylish interfaces. It's free marketing. This could have been a windows 10 release, but they chose to market it as a windows 11, and it's getting way more hype because of that simple marketing decision.

I don't disagree with the strategy.

But they didn't have to lie about Windows 10 either.

 

[twilo99]

Agreed. Thats part of the game.

Took a while for Win 10 to be great though, but that is pretty much all OS anyway. I'll hold off for a few years as I'm sure most of what i use for work won't be Win 11 required or something.

hmm this upgrade doesn't strike me as a major one like say ..

95 ->XP
XP -> win7
7 -> 8
8 ->10

10 to 11 seems more of a major "service pack" than a major update, like the ones I mentioned above, so I feel like the upgrade process will be much smoother than before. Its much more of a marketing move than anything when it comes to the naming anyway.

 

[Julius Ibidus]

I don't disagree with the strategy.

But they didn't have to lie about Windows 10 either.

but they were tender, market approved, user-group tested lies. you want more that that?

 

[FearlessBelgian]

Have they corrected the xbox achievement notification ? It is a new animation or the same animation like on Windows 10 ?

 

[A.Romero]

I'm glad people resisting change are not in charge to make decisions like this. In general people dislike change. If it was up to some people we would still be running Windows 2000.

I'm in the IT industry and changes have been smoother with every iteration. Say what you will about Microsoft but they have been improving non-stop for a while.

 

[JLB]

Hey haters, feel free to move to Linux or OSX if you hate windows that much!

 

[Derktron]

Best for gaming since they have a monopoly on directx.

Copying whatever they can from macOS and call it a new windows.

I sure love Microsoft lol

Found the Apple fanboy -- Do I win a prize?

 

[SenjutsuSage]

I don't disagree with the strategy.

But they didn't have to lie about Windows 10 either.

They never did. They said it was coming to windows. They didn't say it would be Windows 10. They also kept the promise of DX12 Ultimate being available to all Windows 10 owners right back to the Nov 2019 build of Windows 10.

DirectStorage is being treated as something separate entirely outside of DirectX 12 Ultimate.

Pay attention to this oct 2020 blog post.

AMD recently announced their Radeon™ RX 6000 Series graphics cards, which deliver impressive support of the full DirectX 12 Ultimate feature set and the upcoming DirectStorage API.

They said RX 6000 Series GPUs support full DX12 Ultimate, and the upcoming DirectStorage API. Notice how DX12 Ultimate is treated as separate from DX12 Ultimate?

The promise Microsoft made was to give Windows 10 owners DX12 Ultimate, and they will.

 

[Fake]

Jez. Watch out for the Windows defense force.

 

[Barakov]

Windows 11: The Best Windows Ever for Gaming - Xbox Wire

Can't wait to install classic shell and make it look like Windows 7.

 

[01011001]

hmm this upgrade doesn't strike me as a major one like say ..

95 ->XP
XP -> win7
7 -> 8
8 ->10

10 to 11 seems more of a major "service pack" than a major update, like the ones I mentioned above, so I feel like the upgrade process will be much smoother than before. Its much more of a marketing move than anything when it comes to the naming anyway.

yeah I bet they didn't even plan to name it Windows 11 but someone in the PR department said it would get much more coverage by mainstream media if they did.

"Windows 10 UI Update" doesn't have nearly the same marketability as Windows 11

 

[Topher]

They never did. They said it was coming to windows. They didn't say it would be Windows 10. They also kept the promise of DX12 Ultimate being available to all Windows 10 owners right back to the Nov 2019 build of Windows 10.

DirectStorage is being treated as something separate entirely outside of DirectX 12 Ultimate.

Pay attention to this oct 2020 blog post.



They said RX 6000 Series GPUs support full DX12 Ultimate, and the upcoming DirectStorage API. Notice how DX12 Ultimate is treated as separate from DX12 Ultimate?

The promise Microsoft made was to give Windows 10 owners DX12 Ultimate, and they will.

MS had also said Windows 10 was going to be the last version of Windows. I don't see this as a big deal though since Windows 11 is a free upgrade.

yeah I bet they didn't even plan to name it Windows 11 but someone in the PR department said it would get much more coverage by mainstream media if they did.

"Windows 10 UI Update" doesn't have nearly the same marketability as Windows 11

also, I love how you completely left out Vista lol

Windows 10 Ultimate!

 

[nkarafo]

They never did.

https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows

 

[nemiroff]

Turn on fTPM in bios and it will be compatible

I can also confirm that this works. I just turned the TPM option in my ASUS ROG STRIX motherboard bios from "Discrete TPM" to "Firmware TPM" and I now have full TPM 2.0 support, and the "health check" tool is now showing full W11 compatibility instead of "sorry".

I'm now ready for the free Windows 11 upgrade. Appreciate the tip.

 

[Werewolfgrandma]

I don't disagree with the strategy.

But they didn't have to lie about Windows 10 either.

You know you can change your mind or plans and it's not a lie. Specially long term plans like that.

 

[01011001]

https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows

well again, this name change is 99% PR and 1% actual tech reasons.
this is almost entirely a UI overhaul and a small overhaul at the backend.

Windows 10, even if they stuck with that name forever, would eventually get drastic updates like these, even if they didn't name it Windows 11. or did anyone seriously believe the UI and tech will never be upgraded over time? for all we know it will simply be a free update like any other Windows 10 update would have been. and if that's the case it really doesn't matter what it's called... they could call it Windows 10.1... windows 10.5... or Windows 11, doesn't change anything for the consumer

 

[alabtrosMyster]

Here we go again...


BTW nice work OP. Very detail post without any trace of astroturfing.

The only trace is in the link!

Here is a PlayStation now link: PlayStation Now: most-played games in Spring

 

[twilo99]

Can't wait to install classic shell and make it look like Windows 7.

Why stop at 7 ? Just go straight to XP .. its much better than 7

 

[ManaByte]

Can't wait to install classic shell and make it look like Windows 7.

 

[Mister Wolf]

We are entering a new era.

 

[nemiroff]

well again, this name change is 99% PR and 1% actual tech reasons.
this is almost entirely a UI overhaul and a small overhaul at the backend.

Windows 10, even if they stuck with that name forever, would eventually get drastic updates like these, even if they didn't name it Windows 11. for all we know it will simply be a free update like any other Windows 10 update would have been

Not sure what your point is. There's no conspiracy here, it's a free update. If MS thinks it has enough features to increment its integer naming, who the fuck cares.

 

[Julius Ibidus]

We are entering a new era.

it's almost a 'reset' of sorts, isn't it?

 

[SenjutsuSage]

well again, this name change is 99% PR and 1% actual tech reasons.
this is almost entirely a UI overhaul and a small overhaul at the backend.

Windows 10, even if they stuck with that name forever, would eventually get drastic updates like these, even if they didn't name it Windows 11. for all we know it will simply be a free update like any other Windows 10 update would have been

There are a number of new features as well as interface updates, with new performance features. There's never an actual tech reason to go with a name change. Companies and developers just choose to if their software has been updated. If Google can give each of their new android revisions a new name, and if Apple can do the same, why can't Microsoft. It's always marketing in some form. Developers keep track behind the scenes with build/version numbers.

 

[01011001]

Why stop at 7 ? Just go straight to XP .. its much better than 7

XP is ugly as fuck
BUT, the official Zune theme was kinda fire

I mainly used this one from the day it was released until I stopped using XP

 

[Mister Wolf]

it's almost a 'reset' of sorts, isn't it?

An evolution.

 

[twilo99]

BTW nice work OP. Very detail post without any trace of astroturfing.

is the norm here to write a short essay about the link/source in every post?

Its a stupid PR article that mentioned the technology related to gaming, whish what we all presumably care about here..

 

[EDMIX]

hmm this upgrade doesn't strike me as a major one like say ..

95 ->XP
XP -> win7
7 -> 8
8 ->10

10 to 11 seems more of a major "service pack" than a major update, like the ones I mentioned above, so I feel like the upgrade process will be much smoother than before. Its much more of a marketing move than anything when it comes to the naming anyway.

True. I was thinking this was a "new" OS and if its just some update, I have no issue with it.

I'm not paying for shit lol

 

[Barakov]

 

[Hari Seldon]

Hey haters, feel free to move to Linux or OSX if you hate windows that much!

Unfortunately we are stuck with windows for gaming. I already have offloaded my entire workflow to Linux, so it is just gaming keeping me in the windows ecosystem.

I would have thought MS would have done more to recapture the tech professionals but they seem to have given up that fight and are just going for a consumer level OS.

 

[01011001]

There are a number of new features as well as interface updates, with new performance features. There's never an actual tech reason to go with a name change. Companies and developers just choose to if their software has been updated. If Google can give each of their new android revisions a new name, and if Apple can do the same, why can't Microsoft. It's always marketing in some form. Developers keep track behind the scenes with build/version numbers.

well I guess the reason for the number change comes down to the fact that you will most likely need to do a fresh install of Win 11 (or do one of those upgrade installs, which weren't really recommended in past upgrades) and you can't just download an update one day and be done with it.

 

[dcmk7]

I remember when people HATED Windows 10 when it released...now people suddenly want to stick with it for reasons.

They want to stick with it because it's a good operating system?

You have just proven my point though. All new OS upon release are trash.

 

[TheBomb]

I would complain, but I guess that's why it's a free upgrade to existing 10 users.

 

[ManaByte]

Stick with it, because it's a good operating system?

As you have just proven my point. All new OS on release are trash.

Funny how people won't upgrade to a free new OS for new features but will drop hundreds of dollars on a new game console for new features.

 

[dcmk7]

Funny how people won't upgrade to a free new OS for new features but will drop hundreds of dollars on a new game console for new features.

Funny how you always insinuate a conspiracy theory or alternative motives rather than discuss anything reasonably.

 

[CamHostage]

Funny, I have a tab open with a post written out asking, "it feels like it's been a long wait, when is DirectStorage coming out?" I guess I can delete that letter never sent now...

 

[Dr Bass]

Funny how people won't upgrade to a free new OS for new features but will drop hundreds of dollars on a new game console for new features.

These two things are not remotely comparable in any way.

 

[Mister Wolf]

You would expect the Microsoft titles to be the first to take advantage of this stuff.

 

[Griffon]

We’re thrilled to bring you the best Windows ever for gaming.

Yes it already existed before, it's called Windows 7.

 

[Strider Highwind]

got a 1tb installed and a 3090, i'm ready ready lol

 

[killermmn]

I'm ready. Gimme that DirectStorage (I have a 2TB NMVe).

man i have the amd ftmp on and that said i cant run win 11,what you do done(bitlocker is on or not?)

 

[Zeroing]

Typical MS… PR overhype!

Although I understand they need to keep their operating system compatible with a lot of companies/products/hardware… there’s little innovation an old OS keep being patched and build upon on old legacy code can archive.

if they truly wanted the best OS for gaming, they had to start new. Reduce the OS footprint, reduce redundancy and build for the future, new foundations!

this free OS updates, work with Apple because they have a limited amount of hardware and when they start anew they are good at making the transition as smooth as possible, but that is impossible with the current state of windows and it’s particularlies.