packy34
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Uh... they were sued for bundling IE, not blocking Netscape....
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Xbox/GamePass Integrated into Windows 11
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GreenAlien
Member
Why would anyone still have the taskbar at the bottom instead of the sides? It Just takes away from your limited vertical screen space..
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Bo_Hazem
Banned
Gamepass/Xbox has been integrated in Windows 10 since ages now, so yes it's old news? Had to delete all of that. Not sure if it's just in Windows 10 Pro and not present on other versions, but it's there.
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01011001
Banned
it's also in Windows 10 home.
literally everything shown in all the windows 11 reports and videos is already part of Windows 10, everything except for the new UI features.
apps and services as well as even the Installation process is identical to Win 10, pro or home
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its why i only get laptops with 4:3 screen ratios and monitors with 16:10
Mitsuda Maniac
Member
Great, more stuff I will never use taking up space like Cortana and MS store.
Virt McPolygon
Banned
It's not horrible. Old Windows stuff doesn't totally go away, right? Just kind of hidden away? I'd try it.
Oh, and I'm convinced that Linux users who try to convert others are serial killers.
Oh, and I'm convinced that Linux users who try to convert others are serial killers.
PhaseJump
Banned
The windows 11 leak isnt what you get in RTM( it isnt even the RTM build, it's a build from may). Apparently everything is now an "app", even the start menu and taskbar. Xbox app, settings, new windows store, other stuff has not been revealed yet. The UI isnt even baked in to the OS anymore. It gets built into the apps(WinUI). This is the new UI framework that works with different APIs like uwp and win32.
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01011001
Banned
Linux users are masochists who think they are master programmers when they finally manage to install it without fucking up a partition.
ZehDon
Gold Member
So Windows 11 and its features, changes, and integrations with regards to PC Gaming isn't old news then. Cool.
VAVA Mk2
Member
The taskbar is centered instead of left adjusted. What are they copying here?Are they trying to make Windows look more like Mac?
Topher
Gold Member
Companion Cube
Member
I wish they would make the Xbox PC UI the same as (or similar to) the console dashboard for consistency.
Elder Legend
Banned
Does anyone know when it releases?
01011001
Banned
nope... this year is all we know. and many might even not even be able to install it should the TMP2.0 issue not be resolved till launch
JackMcGunns
Member
Aren't technologies developed by Apple exclusive to Apple products? Why should it be different for MS? I think they're done sharing when people call them evil anyway.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
If you’re going to go down the path of OS trolling at least you could have the decency to leave the users out of it.
There is. Windows is wide spread to an extreme degree. Teachers are forced to use it. Many millions of employees are forced to use it. Governments use it. It’s no longer just a product and pretending it is is foolish. There’s a problem with a company whose once consumer product has blatantly gone far beyond just being a product, and has become necessity for workers, students, and corporations being able to push and advertise other products and services of their choosing. Windows as a product doesn’t operate in a capitalism anymore. Need old Theodore to be born again.
I'm sorry to woke you up. While I may agree with you on a philosophical level there is nothing and no one (certainly not a mentally sane judge) that can stop Microsoft from doing what it wants with its operating system. Certainly no court can. tell him to bring new features of the new operating system over the old versions. The luck is that if you want there are other OS
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Oddvintagechap
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Windows finally doesnt look like trash. Copy apple all you want. BUT let me delete xbox bloatware easily.
Topher
Gold Member
Yes, courts can force MS to change their operating system for a number of reasons, primarily anti-trust regulations. Thankfully, there isn't any cause to do so, but don't pretend they can't. In fact, some governments have forced Microsoft to make changes to its underlying systems before it could even be sold in that country.
no this have nothing (like zero) to do with that happened with explorer...and again (no court that does not want to pass for crazy and senseless) no one can tell Microsoft to take new feature back to old operatlting system especially when the new one is a free upgrade.....stop being ridiculous
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Zeroing
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For those arguing windows vs Apple!
Apple did not make an OS with the purpose to be used in everything while destroying and undermining the competition, that’s why Linux never had the chance to go mainstream. Intel back in 2000s was building an OS but MS stopped them. Linux was being used on netbooks and MS stopped Asus. Sony back in the 90s we’re going to use macOS and MS stopped them…
so MS got what they deserved, an OS to rule them all, that is build on old legacy OS, aiming at being used at everything while not being optimized at anything!
everyone using the beta knows it is stable because, let’s face it -windows 11 is a skin!
Apple did not make an OS with the purpose to be used in everything while destroying and undermining the competition, that’s why Linux never had the chance to go mainstream. Intel back in 2000s was building an OS but MS stopped them. Linux was being used on netbooks and MS stopped Asus. Sony back in the 90s we’re going to use macOS and MS stopped them…
so MS got what they deserved, an OS to rule them all, that is build on old legacy OS, aiming at being used at everything while not being optimized at anything!
everyone using the beta knows it is stable because, let’s face it -windows 11 is a skin!
Topher
Gold Member
What part of "Thankfully, there isn't any cause to do so" did you not understand? I said nothing about explorer at all, now did I? I'm talking about what courts can do.
If you want to talk about being ridiculous, start with your own lack of reading.
na more like chrome os
lol....which looks like Mac as well.
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nani17
are in a big trouble
Yes but it allows you to play games tooAre they trying to make Windows look more like Mac?
martino
Member
You missed the point they could have supported it on windows 10.
At least it's a free upgrade if I understood well.
You are assuming that it could be supported on Windows 10 without causing technical debt down the road
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Shubh_C63
Member
Force of habit ?
I used to have taskbar on the left during XP but from then on no bottom just feels wrong. My eyes are much more trained that way.
Get with the times. MS Office faces serious competition in schools from G Suite/Chrome OS, and even apple with bring your own device to work schemes.
It would be interesting to see updated numbers
I hate to be the one to say it, but they've had rounded corners on their windows since XP (2001):
Topher
Gold Member
That doesn't look like Mac to me though. Windows 11 does.I hate to be the one to say it, but they've had rounded corners on their windows since XP (2001):
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It's just the white ascetic of frosted glass. Or the new white windows taskbar taking over your brain's main point of reference.
It doesn't even look like the demo's glass shimmer. It looks like some ass frosted glass instead.
If anything, it looks like MS went hard into the paint for that shitty Win Vista aero glass and turned the dial up to 11 (get it?).
You would be surprised at what those knobs remove.
- Can't re-order your pinned taskbar app's pinned recently used files (aka jumplists). That went away in 8.
- Can't get detailed File Explorer heading columns (name, date, type, size etc) in any FE view type than Detailed. Ripped-out of Vista. What is the bloody point in that?
- introduced with win10, closed windows such as File Explorer, don't remember their opened position, and always open affected down and to the left, as though you are opening a 2nd instance of FE at the same time, and it is "cascaded" off to the side of the non-existent 1st tab.
- Mate they're removing Tablet Mode from W11, and tablet mode was like 8's whole entire thing! I still say if you had a Surface device in like 2012, then 8's touch integration was presented a lot better than on m&k.
Interfectum
Member
Designers copy other designs all the time. There's only so many ways to organize an icon driven OS (which is what the consumer wants) and it's in Google's, Microsoft's and Apple's best interest to say pretty close to the competition to allow for smooth transition for new customers.
yurinka
Member
Unless the user disables it -if it's possible- they will count as XBL MAU even if they don't use it to buy or play. And MS needs some metric to brag about on their gaming PR quotes in addition to growth in small countries (without mentioning their growth is from super tiny sales to tiny sales and still below previous gen).
It already exist on Win 10. I assume nobody complained enough so maybe the EU authorities didn't noticed it, gaming isn't as big as web browser.
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Prof. Tivor Tontomo
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Please tell me that first image isn't desktop mode. That's just some weird menu right? They wouldn't remove the start menu on left side right Microsoft? You are my friend dont do this. Where are the desktop icons? No please no.
Pedro Motta
Member
Here is one hoping for a Linux/Vulkan revolution. This shit must end.
01011001
Banned
you can set the start menu to be on the left
you can't move the task bar to the top or to the side tho. well, you can if you go into the registries and change them... not hard to do but annoying that it isn't an option
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CRAIG667
Member
But why though?
Syphon Filter
Member
Microsoft been used rounded corners in XP,Vista,7etc