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[Heisenberg007]

Finally. Xbox Series X and S have combined sold a total of 2 million units in the UK.

The new consoles took 128 weeks to sell 2 million units in Microsoft's 2nd biggest market. This is:

• 12 weeks faster than Nintendo Switch,
• 24 weeks slower than Xbox One,
• 18 weeks slower than Xbox 360, and
• 30 weeks slower than PS5,

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/xbox-...n-the-uk-12-weeks-faster-than-nintendo-switch

 

[STARSBarry]

Obviously the release of Redfall spured this on.

 

[Tsaki]

Interestingly they also gave us the average launch selling price of the Series consoles: £386. What can we make of this number? Or is it just the average between the MSRPs?

 

[Captain Toad]

This is 12 weeks faster than Nintendo Switch, but 24 weeks slower than Xbox One and 18 weeks slower than Xbox 360.

It's all divisible by 6. What could this mean???

 

[harry mason 1989]

Ms will leave the uk market soon

 

[lh032]

It's all divisible by 6. What could this mean???

 

[T-Cake]

I wonder what the makeup of units is, I'm thinking 70-30 in favour of the Series S.

 

[reksveks]

Interestingly they also gave us the average launch selling price of the Series consoles: £386. What can we make of this number? Or is it just the average between the MSRPs?

People not jumping on the S as much as people thought they would.

It would be interesting to see what a potential successful Q4 with Starfield and Forza does regarding what hardware they want.

 

[feynoob]

Imagine the numbers without production constraints.

 

[Heisenberg007]

I wonder what the makeup of units is, I'm thinking 70-30 in favour of the Series S.

I lean more towards 65-35, but yeah that seems like a very reasonable ballpark.

 

[reksveks]

I wonder what the makeup of units is, I'm thinking 70-30 in favour of the Series S.

249 rrp and 449 rrp with those % = 309 and I doubt the bundles is making a huge difference in terms of arpu.

 

[STARSBarry]

Interestingly they also gave us the average launch selling price of the Series consoles: £386. What can we make of this number? Or is it just the average between the MSRPs?

As long as you keep the MSRP at

Series S £250
Series X £450

You can actually use the average sale price and the combined number of sales to come to solid estimated amounts.

Unsurprisingly the more expensive Series X is selling more consoles, because people don't want blue screens on borderlands 3 I assume

 

[Poltz]

Slower than the Xbox One is crazy.

 

[reksveks]

You can actually use the average sale price and the combined number of sales to come to solid estimated amounts.

Yeah, you can make your assumptions alot more simple by fixing the arpu to the rrp.

Also given the series s seems to be more discounted, the percentage should skew more to the Series X if I ain't being slow.

Unsurprisingly the more expensive Series X is selling more consoles, because people don't want blue screens on borderlands 3 I assume

Blue screen probably isn't the issue.

 

[feynoob]

Slower than the Xbone? Ouch...Xbone was the worst console in Xbox history (also under Phil Spencer) and its selling weeks slower? Its over this gen for Xbox.

It sold pretty well in the first 2 years before it went downhill.
If it weren't for those 2 years, Xbox would have had lower sale lifetime.

 

[jm89]

Mattrick cackling like a madman somewhere in his office.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

seems fair.

 

[reksveks]

It sold pretty well in the first 2 years before it went downhill.
If it weren't for those 2 years, Xbox would have had lower sale lifetime.

Yeah, people forget how well the xbox one started.

 

[feynoob]

Yeah, people forget how well the xbox one started.

Not to mention Xbox one had games in these 2 years.

 

[jm89]

Yeah, people forget how well the xbox one started.

Yeah even with the absolute disastatorus lead up, the sales where not bad at all.

If they actually didn't fumble the years after, it could have maybe even get in reach of x360 numbers.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Yeah, people forget how well the xbox one started.

Exactly. I've been saying this for some time now. People blame Don Mattrick for the Xbox One failure. And although he was partially responsible for it, the launch of Xbox One did not suffer from it significantly.

The real problems of Xbox One started after a couple of years when the games dried up under Phil Spencer.

For the first 2 years, Xbox One competed extremely well with the PS4.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Imagine the numbers without production constraints.

So ... the same numbers?

 

[Ansphn]

It sold pretty well in the first 2 years before it went downhill.
If it weren't for those 2 years, Xbox would have had lower sale lifetime.

Yeah the FOMO and advertisement influence is gone. Word of mouth has to be very bad when they cant even sell the Series S for $200 over the holidays.

 

[Pelta88]

24 weeks slower than the debacle that was XBOX one? In its strongest territory outside of the US?

 

[feynoob]

Exactly. I've been saying this for some time now. People blame Don Mattrick for the Xbox One failure. And although he was partially responsible for it, the launch of Xbox One did not suffer from it significantly.

The real problems of Xbox One started after a couple of years when the games dried up under Phil Spencer.

For the first 2 years, Xbox One competed extremely well with the PS4.

It was under mattrick because the brand needed inhouse studios to make those games, considering how long it takes to make games.

Phil however lacked the resolution to get 3rd party games to his platform in order to cover those holes.

Both of their actions led to Xbox one situation.

 

[Clintizzle]

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[Ansphn]

Not to mention Xbox one had games in these 2 years.

The games that Don Mattrick approved. After the Don influence was gone and the Xbox division went full Phil Spencer, it was over..

 

[feynoob]

Yeah the FOMO and advertisement influence is gone. Word of mouth has to be very bad when they cant even sell the Series S for $200 over the holidays.

Games. They lack the thing that sell the console.

Xbox one had pretty good 3rd party exclusive games.

If the series console had those games, it would have sold a lot.

 

[kikkis]

I chose the wrong camp for 500euros. It's over.

 

[feynoob]

The games that Don Mattrick approved. After the Don influence was gone and the Xbox division went full Phil Spencer, it was over..

Add losing cod marketing in the mix.

It was bad decision after bad decision.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Games. They lack the thing that sell the console.

Phil Spencer be like:

 

[Physiognomonics]

Are Dring and gamesindustry MS PR mouth? It should have never being compared to the Switch which had less holiday sales in the first place.

 

[feynoob]

Phil Spencer be like:

That was mattrick level of stupidity.
I can't believe he said that on a podcast.

 

[SJRB]

It is absolutely wild that they have to mop the series X and S together to even reach that number.

 

[STARSBarry]

Slower than the Xbone? Ouch...Xbone was the worst console in Xbox history (also under Phil Spencer) and its selling weeks slower? Its over this gen for Xbox.

Slower than the Xbox One is crazy.

Remember the Xbox One came off the back of the Xbox 360, people where excited for the next installment, it was coming off the back of an incredibly well received product.

However the Xbox Series was coming off the back of the Xbox One, the question asked at launch was "how could it be worse?"

Blue screen probably isn't the issue.

I was using hyperbole to poke fun at Series S being the red headed step child of the Series.

 

[Dick Jones]

Exactly. I've been saying this for some time now. People blame Don Mattrick for the Xbox One failure. And although he was partially responsible for it, the launch of Xbox One did not suffer from it significantly.

The real problems of Xbox One started after a couple of years when the games dried up under Phil Spencer.

For the first 2 years, Xbox One competed extremely well with the PS4.

Anyone know who was in charge of first party during the final years of the 360 gen and Xbox One gen under Mattrick?

You don't need to Google, you just need to know he needs more time.

 

[mejin]

So, it's already worse than Xbox One numbers....damn

 

[Mr Moose]

Are Dring and gamesindustry MS PR mouth? It should have never being compared to the Switch which had less holiday sales in the first place.

Switch was the next fastest. Xbox One beat it by a lot.

 

[Dick Jones]

So, it's already worse than Xbox One numbers....damn

Sorry, do you mean the Xbox One or the third console the Xbox One?

 

[Heisenberg007]

Are Dring and gamesindustry MS PR mouth? It should have never being compared to the Switch which had less holiday sales in the first place.

Right? Also, those two consoles aren't even direct competitor.

Either compare it with a PS5 (if you want to compare it with direct competitors, launching in the same time frame), or compare it with Xbox One (the last console launched by the same company).

 

[Heisenberg007]

Sorry, do you mean the Xbox One or the third console the Xbox One?

Neither. The Xbox One.

 

[Luigi Mario]

Wouldn't a comparison to the other Xbox consoles be more apt?

 

[jm89]

Are Dring and gamesindustry MS PR mouth? It should have never being compared to the Switch which had less holiday sales in the first place.

Yeah it's weird thing to mention, although dring afaik isn't really biased towards MS. Probably more biased towards nintendo.

 

[Mr Moose]

It is the eighth fastest home console to reach this number, GfK says. It is one place ahead of Nintendo Switch, which reached two million sales in 140 weeks.

In terms of other Xbox consoles, Xbox One remains the fastest-selling Microsoft machine, hitting two million sales after 104 weeks.

PlayStation 5 reached two million sales in October last year, becoming the fourth fastest-selling home console in history.

 

[Poltz]

PS3 is equal to PS5 with 98 weeks https://www.gamesindustry.biz/ps5-h...rth-fastest-selling-games-console-of-all-time

 

[Dick Jones]

Neither. The Xbox One.

Gotcha. I was miles off with my guess, I thought it was the Xbox One

 

[Shakka43]

I know PS3 had a slow start but even so I'm surprised at og Xbox reaching the 2 million mark first over there.

 

[Kilau]

Switch confirmed bomb.

I knew it all along.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Wouldn't a comparison to the other Xbox consoles be more apt?

It will be. But ...

 

[Rien]

It's all divisible by 6. What could this mean???

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