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NPD Sales Results for September 2014 [Up1: Smash/HW/MK8, Destiny stats, 3DS HW]

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JavaMind

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Of course not everyone does, but you know damn well most do. PS4 has under delivered in a big way compared to the competition.



So what you are saying is nobody will give a damn about some obvious flaws..question is have to ask is why?

Stop to BS please!ps4 has parties has share has messages has invite that is the core to play online and is really fast much fastter than Xbox and i have both So stop with that!
To play online Xbox doesn't delivery anything better than ps4.
 

MavFan619

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Of course not everyone does, but you know damn well most do. PS4 has under delivered in a big way compared to the competition.



So what you are saying is nobody will give a damn about some obvious flaws..question is have to ask is why?
Some people went to the console their friends with, or has the version of multiplats they would like to play, controller preference, maybe some of them even like those darn indies Plus offers. I mean this is all speculation as much as speculating that MS should be doing better because XBL isn't down as much.
 

Hoje0308

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Stop to BS please!ps4 has parties has share has messages has invite that is the core to play online and is really fast much fastter than Xbox and i have both So stop with that!
To play online Xbox doesn't delivery anything better than ps4.

Take a breath, friend.
 

jedimike

Member
Yes, Microsoft is off to a poor start this generation, but it's not as though the Xbox One is dead and all development for it is coming to an end.

Actually XB1 is doing very well; above MS's expectations. The PS4 is obviously a bigger hit right now. MS may never catch up but that doesn't mean it isn't doing well or doesn't make lots of money for the industry.
 

Handy Fake

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So wait now this is turning into "yea, but Sony is doomed anyway"? Lol NPD threads never fail.

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Regardless, it is on the chalkboard! And Microsoft would beg to differ! We're going to need to write up a chalkboard from scratch after the holidays, though. Halo 5 will still be on it but we'll need to replace everything else.

At this stage its looking like the replacements will be along the lines of "Buying all third party publishers" "Wish granting Genie"and "PS4s have all become Decepticons"
 

pastrami

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Personal experience... People I play with online are of my same age group, and my direct sample is my Job, which consist of IT professionals most in the early to mid 30s.

I wasn't inferring a blanket statement to speak of a generational gap regarding purchasing preference, however trying to correlate the other poster and my experience to some attributing factor such as age. Maybe its the field we are in. Could be any factor, but age usually comes to mind first.

There's no point in trying to draw conclusions from anecdotal evidence.
 

siah

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Stop to BS please!ps4 has parties has share has messages has invite that is the core to play online and is really fast much fastter than Xbox and i have both So stop with that!
To play online Xbox doesn't delivery anything better than ps4.

Never has a username lived up to its post than this.
 

Cess007

Member
The first three follow a clear pattern, market-leading consoles gaining steam going into their second holiday. But what the hell happened that with the PS3 to cause such a surge in its third year? I don't remember any huge price drops that far in, and none of Sony's 1st party stuff struck me as the kind of juggernaut that could move systems like that.

Kevin Butler happened
 

C.Dark.DN

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Nothing original in this post, but I hope Xbone does outsell ps4 for a little while. I'm a PS4 owner and I think Sony need a kick up the behind. They've been a bit crap this year. I also think MS has the better line up until the end of the year. Good pricing here in the UK too!

Not going to go over well here but I agree.


The great question is why? I can't honestly tell you why other than MS fucked themselves at the beginning with their pathetic attempt at launching the xb1.

Since then I think MS has delivered over Sony.

I gotta give it up to Sony and their fans. A weaker online offering, A botched game release(Driveclub) and people still buy it like crazy.

It also goes to show how fucking terrible MS did out of the gate.

You really wanted X1 to sell more units huh?

So people around here really do celebrate a fucking company selling more than another? That is really strange.
It seems like you'd be celebrating if X1 sold more...
 

Vestal

Gold Member
Sunset Overdrive is a Bayonetta 2 level "system seller"

That's a bit of under-estimating though. While they are both games that do not appeal as much to the mass market, Sunset Overdrive has had actual Marketing muscle behind it. I mean they had an add over American Apparel in Time Square ffs.
 
If Destiny can't sell XB1s, and FH2 doesn't even chart, then Sunset Overdrive - always a B-Tier game - has no chance.

MS have all their Holiday 2014 eggs in a Halo MCC basket. I'm sure it will do very well for them, just not PS4 well. Sunset Overdrive will be a blip.
I wonder if Sunset Overdrive will sell all that many copies, it's just the type of game that falls outside of what's popular among the mass market. Maybe it will but I kind of doubt it. Insomniac might have picked the wrong horse.
 

GnawtyDog

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I gotta give it up to Sony and their fans. A weaker online offering, A botched game release(Driveclub) and people still buy it like crazy.

It also goes to show how fucking terrible MS did out of the gate.

Better hardware, better performing multiplats, greater selection of games. There is a reason why a third of new PS owners come from Wii/Xbox 360. "PS fans".

The sublime suggestions in that post which is simply stealth trolling going by your post history is really a shame. No need to call it salt to sugar coat it.
 
The first three follow a clear pattern, market-leading consoles gaining steam going into their second holiday. But what the hell happened that with the PS3 to cause such a surge in its third year? I don't remember any huge price drops that far in, and none of Sony's 1st party stuff struck me as the kind of juggernaut that could move systems like that.

Pretty sure they had a huge showing that month. Price drop on original model, new release of the Slim, rebranded marketing altogether, launch of Batman Arkham and another game I can't remember.
 
Of course not everyone does, but you know damn well most do. PS4 has under delivered in a big way compared to the competition.



So what you are saying is nobody will give a damn about some obvious flaws..question is have to ask is why?

PS4 versions of games look and run better for the same price. Did you forget that?
 
The great question is why? I can't honestly tell you why other than MS fucked themselves at the beginning with their pathetic attempt at launching the xb1.

Since then I think MS has delivered over Sony.

More powerful console, and Sony has done an excellent job creating a diverse lineup and partnering with the right big titles. Also I think MS's strategy to buy exclusives is not going to work this gen, people are smarter than you think and they feel most of these exclusives won't stay exclusive. Even Ryse may come to PS4 now, and has already come to PC. So that leaves MS with a cycle of Forza, Halo, Gears, and Fable. I don't think that is going to cut it.
 
Actually XB1 is doing very well; above MS's expectations. The PS4 is obviously a bigger hit right now. MS may never catch up but that doesn't mean it isn't doing well or doesn't make lots of money for the industry.

How do we know it's above MS expectations?

Because last we had a sense of what kind of expectations they had for this gen, they were talking a billion consoles across all companies.

I take it by that they were expecting 300-400% better sales than 360 across the board.
 

siah

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You really wanted X1 to sell more units huh?


It seems like you'd be celebrating if X1 sold more...

I could care less; I have both systems for two specific reasons.

Xb1 for multiplats(most friends game there), online, UI features

PS4 for exclusives, PS+ deals
 
Sony mostly made up for its mistakes which helped sales in year 3. Microsoft still has a way to go before it is totally forgiven of their gaming sins.
 
The great question is why? I can't honestly tell you why other than MS fucked themselves at the beginning with their pathetic attempt at launching the xb1.

Since then I think MS has delivered over Sony.

Because the XB1 was a weaker console than the PS4 and still is. MS can't change that. The only thing that has shown to move consoles is to reduce XB1's cost well below that of the PS4, but MS has been unwilling to do that on a wide scale permanent basis. Btw an actual price drop is move effective and a pseudo price drop by including a free game. I've said for a while now that the $349 XB1 is about at parity to a $399 PS4. However the more the XB1 is seen as the losing console, the greater the price reduction will have to be in order to reach mind share parity with the PS4.
 
Drop $100 from their current retail price.

That's the only way I see it assuming it is a notable aspect boosting the PS4. MS even with all their promotions seems to have been fairly conservative this year. Everything was timed bundles, timed promotions to garner some outcome for a specific month. No real price drops other than the unbundling of the kinect. I feel next year MS will start to get more competitive in that regard.

It has a white console attached to it, though.

I would see it more like the White XB1 Bundle has Sunset Overdrive attached to it. Should help bolster SO sales

I love monopolies too, don't forget to order your 64gb memory card and Playstation TV, all products which are totally supported by the market leader with competitive pricing and high quality software.

PS2 was in no way a monopoly. Nor would even a PS4 that managed to outsell PS2 [not happening] be a monopoly due to PC and mobile being so competitive
 

Swass

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I gotta give it up to Sony and their fans. A weaker online offering, A botched game release(Driveclub) and people still buy it like crazy.

Would you say this is on the same level as Microsoft fans buying multiple consoles because RROD?
 

Biker19

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A generation is a long time, and there a lot of variables to take into account. Namely Sonys financial issues and as they continue to lose money, it will be hard for them to continue to fund the PS division.

Where do you think the PS division gets the funds for marketing and those AAA games they make? From Sony, so as Sony lose more and more money due to thier financial issues, it means they have less money to spend on Playstation.

PS makes up about 8% of Sony btw.

SCE is a subsidiary of Sony. Even if Sony somehow goes bankrupt (doubtful), Playstation still isn't going anywhere; Sorry to burst your bubble.

They'll most likely spin it off into it's own company.
 
The first three follow a clear pattern, market-leading consoles gaining steam going into their second holiday. But what the hell happened that with the PS3 to cause such a surge in its third year? I don't remember any huge price drops that far in, and none of Sony's 1st party stuff struck me as the kind of juggernaut that could move systems like that.
PS3 Slim.
Technically it's "nearly 50%" which would probably put it at 1.49*59K = 88K or less.
Also nice to see the Wii U returning from the ashes.
Rising from the ashes is a bit of an exaggeration. It's still below 20K a week. It's likely below equivalent Dreamcast month, although that system was at bargain bin prices by this time.
 
I love monopolies too, don't forget to order your 64gb memory card and Playstation TV, all products which are totally supported by the market leader with competitive pricing and high quality software.

Breaking records doesn't imply a monopoly, but I've read your other posts in this thread so I don't know why I'm responding.
 

A_Gorilla

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Concern? Not sure what in the fuck that means. I am stating my opinion, something I thought was allowed, regardless of it offending your system of fucking choice.

First of all, calm down.

Second of all, look up Concern Trolling. Google is your friend.

Third of all, this is not the United States Supreme Court. This is NeoGAF. Bitching about "having a right to state my opinion" doesn't fly here. There are rules you have to follow.

So far, your posts have done nothing but irritate and annoy others because you suggest tat Sony does not somehow "deserve" (as if a corporation can somehow deserve anything) its success and those who own a PS4 are stupid for doing so.

That may or may not be you intention. Irregardless, that is how its coming across. I suggest you think very about what you post if you wish to stop offending others.
 
I love monopolies too, don't forget to order your 64gb memory card and Playstation TV, all products which are totally supported by the market leader with competitive pricing and high quality software.

Maybe you should get on Microsoft and/or Nintendo to make their product more appealing instead of bitching and moaning about the PS4 selling well.
 

siah

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More powerful console, and Sony has done an excellent job creating a diverse lineup and partnering with the right big titles. Also I think MS's strategy to buy exclusives is not going to work this gen, people are smarter than you think and they feel most of these exclusives won't stay exclusive. Even Ryse may come to PS4 now, and has already come to PC. So that leaves MS with a cycle of Forza, Halo, Gears, and Fable. I don't think that is going to cut it.

Good response

I think you are downplaying the "cycle" that MS has. Sony has a "cycle" as well. They all do.

Buying exclusives, like Rise of TR, for MS was probably done just to have something to compete w Uncharted.
 

Amentallica

Unconfirmed Member
Where do you think the PS division gets the funds for marketing and those AAA games they make? From Sony, so as Sony lose more and more money due to thier financial issues, it means they have less money to spend on Playstation.

PS makes up about 8% of Sony btw.

Whenever I see you post I always feel as if you try to detract from what is going on now. The PS4, today, this month, and the past year, has outsold your preferred Xbox. Do you ever get tired of constantly diverging from reality? I mean, sure, you bring up semi relevant points with Sony losing money, but what about Microsoft who's lost money on their gaming division? Regardless, your posts consistently insinuate that you wish this was an alternate realty.
 
Hyrule Warriors beat Tropical Freeze launch. I didn't saw this coming.

Why? Zelda games have always been bigger than Donkey Kong, and while HW is a spin-off, the game still got in the spotlight thanks to fans and because it got overall better marketing than Tropical Freeze.
 
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