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[giancarlo123x]

I was told the same thing the week about Styles the week people here were trying to tell me I, a queer fan, was wrong for being upset that he's homophobic

And the same thing about Owens the week before the audio of him saying the n-word went viral

So I'm going to keep my stance re: rolling my eyes at people defending their favs by calling them so professional and perfect, and how everything else denying that is just a work (or shoot, I forget what buzzwords yall like using most weekly)

I think when he referred to them as professionals he was speaking strictly about their in ring work and how serious they take it, not what's going on outside of it.

 

[PartTimeWarrior]

Wade Keller saying Styles was supposed to retain and it was chaos backstage after Owens accidentally won lol

This is the (dog)house that AJ Styles built!

 

[SallyIsNow]

"PATTERSON! PATTERSON GET IN HERE DAMMIT! WE GOTTA WORK THAT OWENSISNOW KID DAMMIT! CHANGE THE GOD DAMN FINISH"

 

[DMczaf]

I think when he referred to them as professionals he was speaking strictly about their in ring work and how serious they take it, not what's going on outside of it.

Yup.

 

[Anth0ny]

It's the us title and two mid carders who gives a shit


They'll probably trade the title between themselves 8 more times in the next month completely intentionally

 

[ShadyK54]

Ummm no


For the record Meltz just thinks the finish was changed super last minute up to and including possibly while they were wrestling.

That's more likely than Owens winning by accident.

Hmm, interesting.

 

[HashtagLapsed]

Resorting to racial or homophobic slurs to get "heat" isnt being a professional. They said those things in the ring while working. Its shit behaviour. Unless kicking out at the right time during a fake fight is the bar for professionalism.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Refs have been told for years to do their job (treat it like a real sport and count, trust the competitors to know what to do and when to do it). It was entirely on Styles to kick out, he fucked up

I have no idea why people continue to believe this when it's obviously not true.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Resorting to racial or homophobic slurs to get "heat" isnt being a professional. They said those things in the ring while working. Its shit behaviour.

Thank you.

And no, it wasn't scripted, so don't blame writers next as your third backup plan to defend them.

 

[Egg0]

Ummm no


For the record Meltz just thinks the finish was changed super last minute up to and including possibly while they were wrestling.

That's more likely than Owens winning by accident.

Yea I could see that. That would explain the dumb ref bump that ultimately led to nothing.

 

[slightconfuse]

Okada out here putting on another 4* match.

Dude is on another level this year

 

[excelsiorlef]

Thank you.

And no, it wasn't scripted, so don't blame writers next as your third backup plan to defend them.

Who are you even talking to at this point?

 

[Hasney]

I have no idea why people continue to believe this when it's obviously not true.

I don't watch enough WWE these days, but it's been true in the past. Was a goddamn hilarious match in the rebooted ECW which Benoit either accidentally won or lost.

 

[Beefy]

Resorting to racial or homophobic slurs to get "heat" isnt being a professional. They said those things in the ring while working. Its shit behaviour. Unless kicking out at the right time during a fake fight is the bar for professionalism.

Who did?

 

[giancarlo123x]

This hunt out of the word professional and taking it out of context is disgusting. DMczaf was not defending them personally in anyway.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Who did?

Kevin Steen said the n-word in an indy ring impromptu

AJ Styles has called people homophobic slurs in AND out of ring for over 14 years (2015 was the last in-ring use of it, but he's used the slurs on podcasts and in interviews more recently than that, it's his favorite curse word and he loves to use it)

But because the IWC loves them, LGBTQ+ fans get told "you crazy" for pointing it out and not liking them for it. Has happened to me repeatedly just here alone

 

[SomewhatGroovy]

We've beaten the 'what they said years ago' to death in this community for the past few months and years even. No need to tie that conversation to every single match these two have. The fucking leaps and words you project into others' mouths is mind numbing.

 

[Sinatar]

How you managed to spin a conversation about the strange finish to Owens/AJ into some kind of homophobic witch hunt is pretty damn bizarre.

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

If KO and AJ both knew AJ was supposed to win, then they both messed up there. You can't put the blame on one over the other. KO could have just as easily let go of the roll up and break the count

AJ staying after, whether real or planned, was probably a good move to provide some ammo for "RE-RE-Match"

 

[Beefy]

Kevin Steen said the n-word in an indy ring impromptu

AJ Styles has called people homophobic slurs in AND out of ring for over 14 years (2015 was the last in-ring use of it, but he's used the slurs on podcasts and in interviews more recently than that, it's his favorite curse word and he loves to use it)

But because the IWC loves them, LGBTQ+ fans get told "you crazy" for pointing it out and not liking them for it. Has happened to me repeatedly just here alone

Aj styles is a god loving cunt

 

[excelsiorlef]

Fact: AJ is a great wrestler who is almost certainly a huge bigot.

Owens is a great wrestler who made an extremely racist comment years ago.

Both are guys who are not likely to fuck up a finish that bad or go into business for themselves during a match. Owens did not shoot to win and AJ didn't not kickout on purpose because he thinks the US title is beneath him or something.

 

[SomewhatGroovy]

Right. It's called mutual exclusivity.

Let's move on.

 

[slightconfuse]

Carny alert

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1410879

 

[blackaroni]

Their match wasn't that good even with the finish, right?

 

[excelsiorlef]

Their match wasn't that good even with the finish, right?

It was alright but below their capabilities

 

[giancarlo123x]

Their match wasn't that good even with the finish, right?

For how professional they are in the ring, fuck no. My biggest disappointment of the night since I expect much more from two people of their caliber.

 

[Mahonay]

Their match wasn't that good even with the finish, right?

It was a shit match packed full of rest spots where they just laid there.

 

[Egg0]

Their match wasn't that good even with the finish, right?

Not really. Their Backlash match was better, even with the countout finish.

 

[Recall]

I have no idea why people continue to believe this when it's obviously not true.

Yes it is.

It's been confirmed a thousand times over.

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

It was alright but below their capabilities

I feel like this was the tagline of the PPV

 

[Mahonay]

I have no idea why people continue to believe this when it's obviously not true.

What? I feel like I've heard countless WWE workers over the years say exactly that. How refs are told to count pins as if they were real.

Unless it's a bullshit myth they enjoy spreading, which is totally possible as well.

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

I feel like this was the tagline of the PPV

And yet they will do it again next time.

 

[excelsiorlef]

If I was crazy I'd say the end of Owens/AJ changed after Nak/Corbin sucked and Vince decided fuck it not doing AJ/Nak at Summerslam now.

 

[Mahonay]

If I was crazy I'd say the end changed after Nak/Corbin sucked and Vince decided fuck it not doing AJ/Nak at Summerslam now.

Please god.

But with Corbin attacking Nak after match, they are extending that shit feud.

 

[SallyIsNow]

If I was crazy I'd say the end of Owens/AJ changed after Nak/Corbin sucked and Vince decided fuck it not doing AJ/Nak at Summerslam now.

Please please let this be the case.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Please god.

But with Corbin attacking Nak after match, they are extending that shit feud.

That's why I said if I was crazy.

 

[SomewhatGroovy]

Refs should carry on and be responsible for handling their duties correctly. If a talent botches the script, that should be on them. Regardless of the person responsible, If there is a botch, it can easily be remedied by a rematch the next time cameras are on the air. Shouldn't be a big deal, I would think.

 

[giancarlo123x]

I prefer they hold off on AJ/nakamura till wrestlemania. Shit needs the biggest stage to hold the hype. Make it for a title also.

 

[Mahonay]

I prefer they hold off on AJ/nakamura till wrestlemania. Shit needs the biggest stage to hold the hype. Make it for a title also.

At this rate, no one will give a fuck about Nakamaura by then.

 

[excelsiorlef]

I prefer they hold off on AJ/nakamura till wrestlemania. Shit needs the biggest stage to hold the hype. Make it for a title also.

Nah SS was perfect. No better crowd than Brooklyn

At this rate, no one will give a fuck about Nakamaura by then.

This too.

Even I can't find a silver lining on him.

 

[slightconfuse]

Okada had me thinking who was the last wresler where every match was a must watch?

Danielson in 08-09?
Joe in 2005?
Misawa in 97?

 

[Beefy]

I prefer they hold off on AJ/nakamura till wrestlemania. Shit needs the biggest stage to hold the hype. Make it for a title also.

And give Nak some cocaine so he actually livens up

 

[giancarlo123x]

At this rate, no one will give a fuck about Nakamaura by then.

This is as ridiculous as the #5years shenanigans.

 

[Tom Nook]

I prefer they hold off on AJ/nakamura till wrestlemania. Shit needs the biggest stage to hold the hype. Make it for a title also.

There could be a "Superstar Shakeup" after SS, meaning AJ could move to Raw. Better have AJ/Naka match now at SS.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Okada had me thinking who was the last wresler where every match was a must watch?

Danielson in 08-09?
Joe in 2005?
Misawa in 97?

Kenny Omega 2017
Tetsuya Naito 2017
Hiromu Takahashi 2017

 

[Mahonay]

And give Nak some cocaine so he actually livens up

Considering his feuds have been against Ziggler and Corbin, I really don't blame him.

Also apparently he's pretty banged up. So yeah, If I were him I wouldn't put all of my energy into nothing feuds that no one cares about.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Okada had me thinking who was the last wresler where every match was a must watch?

Danielson in 08-09?
Joe in 2005?
Misawa in 97?

2005-06 Joe was ridiculously impressive

 

[Sinatar]

This is as ridiculous as the #5years shenanigans.

If Nakamura over the course of the year continues to have matches like he's had with Ziggler and Corbin, then it's not ridiculous at all.

 

[Mahonay]

This is as ridiculous as the #5years shenanigans.

Is it? Nakamura is not a mainstream name. And the hardcore audience is getting noticeably disinterested in him due to being put into pour feuds with uninspired workers. There'a been a noticeable down shift in Nakamura's name being brought up in wrestling in general right now. It's actually very noticeable.

 

[SallyIsNow]

Okada had me thinking who was the last wresler where every match was a must watch?

Danielson in 08-09?
Joe in 2005?
Misawa in 97?

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