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Sonic Mania |OT| Dreams Come True
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goldenpp72
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I mentioned this both for blue sphere and the normal special stages, but no one responded. While I can work around it, it definitely is sluggish.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Please share.
BassForever
Member
Sonic jumps higher, runs faster, can do the drop dash, can use the secondary abilities of elemental shields, can access the true final boss if he has all 7 chaos emeralds.
Knuckles has his pattened climb and glide, but is the slowest character and the worst jump height. Knuckles also gets a few exclusive acts and bosses.
AzureSkies
Member
my struggle right now
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Shouldn't be. Remember that the stage is a grid, and when you input a direction, Sonic won't turn until he hits the next junction.
Drop dash, slightly higher jump, secondary elemental shield abilities.
If this game follows Sonic 3's rules (I haven't checked), it works like this:
Speed: Sonic > Knuckles > Tails
Jump: Tails > Sonic > Knuckles
Traction: Knuckles > Tails > Sonic
Anyone else like playing as Knuckles more than Sonic? I feel like with his flying and climbing I can be a bit more methodical and explore the levels better instead of speeding through them.
Or maybe the wonder of flying and climbing as Knuckles for the first time when I was a kid still hasn't worn off.
Or maybe the wonder of flying and climbing as Knuckles for the first time when I was a kid still hasn't worn off.
No lag on PS4, they feel exactly as responsive as they did on the Mega Drive.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
I've played the Sonic games on genesis and PC, gamecube as well... They didn't feel this heavy before. Idk, maybe it's just been a long long time.
lovely ladies
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I loved both of the bosses in Studiopolis.
nintendoman58
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I can't find any of the special stage rings after Green Hill Zone.
Berserking Guts
Member
I don't like the special stages.
CampbellzSoup
Member
Explore, you'll find em.
Professor Lexicovermis
Member
Thanks!
I already found one: the Paper Shredder mini boss in Press Garden makes sound effects exactly like the Mad Gatekeeper from Headdy!
Piston Hyundai
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RecRoulette
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balladofwindfishes
Member
This game is killing me in nostalgia
I haven't felt this nostalgic about something in a very long time. Seeing Chemical Plant Zone Act II was something. And that boss.
I haven't felt this nostalgic about something in a very long time. Seeing Chemical Plant Zone Act II was something. And that boss.
But the game is a 0/10 because the boss doesn't use Robotnik's boss music from Bean Machine, and it's missing the endless YEEHAWWW and I combo Eggman into death in one move
Jaded Alyx
Member
I'd really love to see how you're supposed to beat that Stardust Speedway boss properly. I felt like I had no idea what I was meant to do in the last section.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
Me neither.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
Everything else about the game is amazing but Oil Ocean Act 2's boss sucks.
I beat it by
letting metal sonic show off, then jump on them once, repeat until the faker blows up
balladofwindfishes
Member
These are all just Sonic 3 + K's Blue Spheres right? I have yet to see a new layout, although going for 100% of rings adds a little bit of new strategy to them.
My first game over in this game, and that's where I decided to end for the night.
I appreciate taking a chump boss and making it an actual challenge... but come on.
My first game over in this game, and that's where I decided to end for the night.
I appreciate taking a chump boss and making it an actual challenge... but come on.
RecRoulette
Member
The first few are straight from 3K, but soon you'll see some weird stuff, don't worry.
Elfforkusu
Member
3 levels in, game is everything I'd hoped. That boss fight... lol
Any input lag I feel on the switch version I attribute to lcd vs crt (back in the day) and the wireless controllers. I haven't had any issues due to it, all my fuckups have been self-inflicted as always
balladofwindfishes
Member
Oh okay. I stopped doing them because I got bored of doing the same stages I have beaten 40 billion times in the last 20 years.
Jaded Alyx
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The last section.
Professor Lexicovermis
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goldenpp72
Member
Does anyone know how the Blue Sphere levels cycle? I have about half of them done with gold medals, so will those never pop up again until I get all gold or??
digitalflame
Member
Yep Game Over'd twice and had to stop.
Anyone know how many medals are requiered for each unlock? Not really feeling the Blue Sphere thing but I really want the secrets...
Waddle Dee
Member
Played through the games as Sonic solo last night and it was an incredibly time. I got teary eyed during a few parts. Really makes me happy to know that we finally have a true successor to Sonic 3 & Knuckles. I'm not sure if I'd say this game is better, it's too early to tell, but it's at least close to being on par I think.
Just a few scrambled notes I have:
- A tad disappointing that there's only
but they're fantastic.
- Music and visuals are consistently on-point. Probably the best looking 2D game on the market, unless there's some SNK game I'm missing.
- Too much time is spent
- A shame that
can only be messed around with on a No Save file. What a weird omission.
- I found a couple bugs revolving around music tracks not playing correctly. It's happened enough to feel like something that should have been noticed during play testing.
Now for Zone specific comments:
Green Hill Zone
- Great level layout. No complaints. I love the cave sections.
- Act 1 isn't changed as much as I would have liked but no real complaints here.
- Act 2 is
- Act 2's Boss
Studiopolis Zone
- Act 1 is great, obviously. The
but otherwise it's cool.
- Act 2 is
- Act 2's boss is
- Act 1 is really solid and I really dig how
- Act 2 has
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- Act 2 fairs better but
- Act 1 is great! I love how they
- I was disappointed that Act 2
- The boss
- The zone as a whole is alright but I don't think it tops the original.
- The boss fights were clever and funny.
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- Act 2 is a lot of fun and I can tell they've improved it's layout since it was revealed.
- Act 2's boss
- I was really excited to see this return since, against popular opinion,
- Act 2's main gimmick is
- Act 2's boss
- Act 1 is a good enhanced version of the original.
- I was really hoping for
- The boss fight in Act 2
- A nice surprise.
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- Act 2's boss is
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Overall, I've been having an amazing time and I can only hope that Taxman and his team are given the chance to make another new Sonic game entirely comprised of new zones!
Just a few scrambled notes I have:
- A tad disappointing that there's only
4 new zones
- Music and visuals are consistently on-point. Probably the best looking 2D game on the market, unless there's some SNK game I'm missing.
- Too much time is spent
playing Blue Spheres if you plan on getting the gold medals. I like Blue Spheres but not this much lol.
- A shame that
debug mode
- I found a couple bugs revolving around music tracks not playing correctly. It's happened enough to feel like something that should have been noticed during play testing.
Now for Zone specific comments:
Green Hill Zone
- Great level layout. No complaints. I love the cave sections.
Chemical Plant Zone
- Act 1 isn't changed as much as I would have liked but no real complaints here.
- Act 2 is
really creative. The gimmicks are fantastic and blend in well with the standard Chemical Plant affair.
- Act 2's Boss
was a wonderful surprise... Or at least it would have been if that asshole Jeff Gertsman didn't spoil it. Fuck you, Jeffry!
Studiopolis Zone
- Act 1 is great, obviously. The
boss fight's attacks can be hard to avoid due to the slightly shifting terrain
- Act 2 is
visual overload, but in a good way! I don't really understand how those funnels with the numbered balls work though. Can you influence what you get from those?
- Act 2's boss is
super charming! I love how they put Cluckoid in as the weather dude and how he reacts to what the weather is. :3
Flying Battery Zone
the Lightning Shield sticks you to those ceilings.
- Act 2 has
really kick ass music and some great gimmicks though the boss felt a bit inconsistent in whether he'd bounce into the spikes or not.
Press Garden Zone
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A really inspired new zone! Not all the gimmicks clicked with me instantly and act 1 doesn't really have anything amazing from a level design standpoint. Feels a bit too stop-and-go.
- Act 2 fairs better but
I found the boss a bit annoying at first.
Stardust Speedway Zone
- Act 1 is great! I love how they
used the Past version for this act.
- I was disappointed that Act 2
wasn't in the Good Future, which is my favorite look for Stardust Speedway.
against Metal Sonic kinda sucked to be honest. Having Robo-Sonic from GG Sonic 2 show up was adorable but trying to figure this part of the boss out just wasn't any fun and the last section of the boss wasn't interesting.
Hydrocity Zone
- The zone as a whole is alright but I don't think it tops the original.
- The boss fights were clever and funny.
I didn't know to hold down jump during the first act's boss at first, though. Another element that isn't explained properly.
Mirage Saloon Zone
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Never was a fan of Skychase but it's fun here and doesn't overstay it's welcome.
- Act 2 is a lot of fun and I can tell they've improved it's layout since it was revealed.
- Act 2's boss
is a great triple cameo but the fight itself isn't too engaging.
Oil Ocean Zone
- I was really excited to see this return since, against popular opinion,
Oil Ocean is my favorite zone in Sonic 2. Act 1 doesn't do too much outside of the fire shield but it's fun and I appreciate that they improved the AI on those Seahorse badniks so they give you more time before firing at you.
- Act 2's main gimmick is
kinda just annoying and is worse than what it was a callback of (the ghosts in Sandopolis, which I actually liked).
- Act 2's boss
felt a bit too punishing but maybe I'm just missing something.
Lava Reef Zone
- Act 1 is a good enhanced version of the original.
- I was really hoping for
Quartz Quadrant to show up so while that's a bit of a shame, at least it gets heavily referenced here in Act 2!
- The boss fight in Act 2
felt tacked on. This is the only Egg Robo you fight in a remixed zone so it makes me wonder if they had plans for one other new zone but ran out of time?
Metallic Madness Zone
- A nice surprise.
The "go in to the background" sections of Act 1 were pretty cool.
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The return of Mini-Sonic! Boss fight was a nice callback as well.
Titanic Monarch Zone
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I'm a bit torn on this last zone since it has a lot of really cool hazards and ideas but it can also be a bit too cluttered at times.
a good end boss but not mind blowing.
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The final boss for getting all the emerald honestly sucked in my opinion. Very confusing. I'm not sure what the point of dashing is, and the Egg Robo was hard to hit without also getting hit yourself. I'm probably missing something.
Overall, I've been having an amazing time and I can only hope that Taxman and his team are given the chance to make another new Sonic game entirely comprised of new zones!
Babymario26
Member
Got to rank 11 on green hill zone act 2 i dont understand how some of these people got it done in 34 seconds
From the Sonic Twitter:
"Sonic Mania is the highest-rated new Sonic game in 15 years.
Thank you all so much for being part of this journey with us."
"Sonic Mania is the highest-rated new Sonic game in 15 years.
Thank you all so much for being part of this journey with us."
Lights and Waves
Member
Any word on them adding DLC characters? I'd like to play as Amy and Metal Sonic. Gonna wait until they fix the bugs for the Switch version before picking this up though.
Taxman and Stealth saved Sonic
NinjaCoachZ
Member
You too? Haha, oh man. First thing in the morning, I was playing for three hours straight, totally entranced. That boss put an end to things, so I figured that was a good place to leave off my first play session.
Came back later tonight and I've got two game overs and blown around 10 lives. Like you, only time I've ever game overed too.
I'll definitely write up a bigger impression when I'm done. This game... This is one for my books, no doubt about it. The number of times it's made me grin like an idiot, or make my jaw drop and go "no way, they didn't actually do that" is unbelievable. This game is absolutely delightful. Bosses aside.
RecRoulette
Member
I'm gonna miss saying "Freedom Planet is the best Sonic game since CD" but yeah, well deserved.
I still can't beat special stage 3. Pain and misery lie ahead for me getting the true ending.
I'm on my second playthrough using Tails and have done a lot of level scoping. The level design in this game just gets more impressive as I examine it. Studiopolis especially is like a GOAT Sonic level. That stage deserves to be remembered like Green Hill and Chemical Plant for future games.
I'm on my second playthrough using Tails and have done a lot of level scoping. The level design in this game just gets more impressive as I examine it. Studiopolis especially is like a GOAT Sonic level. That stage deserves to be remembered like Green Hill and Chemical Plant for future games.
Waddle Dee
Member
Awesome! I'm afraid to check the review thread though since it'll probably be full of reviews from people that just want to take the piss on Sonic.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Playing this game, I kind of understand why some people who have never played Sonic games can get confused by the game
There's a ton of things I just naturally knew to do from playing Sonic games for almost 30 years, but looking back, it's kind of weird and maybe not entirely obvious sometimes.
Like I recognized traps and gimmicks from various old stages, either because the stage was literally in the game (Chemical Plants' rising water for example) or because it was borrowed from another stage (Press Garden's various Marble Garden doodads for example)
Oh and Flying Battery is everything I ever wanted in a Flying Battery remake, but that stage could easily get pretty frustrating without knowing some of the weird stuff you have do (the trajectory of flying off the fan polls, which handle bars lower you down, using the fire blowers as springs, stuff like that)
I could hardly contain myself when I got to Chemical Plant Zone. Sonic 2 was my first console game ever and one of the first video games I ever played. Sonic 2 has been part of my life since I was like 4. I couldn't stop smiling through the entire stage and Act II totally blew me away with its new ideas mixed with some familiar layouts.
Also the first time I got to Oil Ocean Act II and saw the gimmick, I actually said out loud "oh no, no no no no" which I'm sure was the intended reaction for anyone who knew what that gimmick was a reference to.
There's a ton of things I just naturally knew to do from playing Sonic games for almost 30 years, but looking back, it's kind of weird and maybe not entirely obvious sometimes.
Like I recognized traps and gimmicks from various old stages, either because the stage was literally in the game (Chemical Plants' rising water for example) or because it was borrowed from another stage (Press Garden's various Marble Garden doodads for example)
Oh and Flying Battery is everything I ever wanted in a Flying Battery remake, but that stage could easily get pretty frustrating without knowing some of the weird stuff you have do (the trajectory of flying off the fan polls, which handle bars lower you down, using the fire blowers as springs, stuff like that)
I could hardly contain myself when I got to Chemical Plant Zone. Sonic 2 was my first console game ever and one of the first video games I ever played. Sonic 2 has been part of my life since I was like 4. I couldn't stop smiling through the entire stage and Act II totally blew me away with its new ideas mixed with some familiar layouts.
And then the boss was intense for me because Mean Bean Machine was also a huge part of my childhood and is the first video game I ever beat. And I never expected a reference to it at all
Also the first time I got to Oil Ocean Act II and saw the gimmick, I actually said out loud "oh no, no no no no" which I'm sure was the intended reaction for anyone who knew what that gimmick was a reference to.
Those reviews do exist, but they are indeed the minority this time around. Even some places known for shitting on Sonic loved the game.
Elfforkusu
Member
The review thread is ok, the "I don't understand how to play Sonic" drew all the Nintendo fanboy alumni like moths to flame.
Khaos Kontrol
Banned
Got 4 Chaos Emeralds so far. That 5th Emerald stage is a bitch tho.