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Might as well release Scalebound, Phil.

Should Phil just release Scalebound this holiday season?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 31 35.6%
  • No!

    Votes: 21 24.1%
  • Would 343i or Gearbox be involved in Scalebound’s resurrection? If so, no.

    Votes: 12 13.8%
  • Will it also come to PS4/PS5, Switch and Vita?

    Votes: 5 5.7%
  • A free pizza can improve any game’s value proposition...except Halo Infinite’s.

    Votes: 18 20.7%

  • Total voters
    87

Chiggs

Gold Member
Sure, it looked like a complete piece of shit, but at least it wasn’t a 500 million dollar disaster. And at least there was actual interest in it at one point in time. Hard to say that about Halo Infinite, considering just how much everyone loathes 343i and their Halo “efforts.”

Given how lame you and your teams have been with releasing exclusive games for the Xbox One, why not patch up Scalebound, release it as a barebones turd (like Sea of Thieves), and then just fix it with iterative development?

Come on, Phil. Be a man. Do the right thing. Throw your long suffering X-fans a bone. Release it this fall for $24.99, and with a free Dominos pizza code.

I believe in the power of a Christmas, Phil...and the power of Christmas is even stronger than 343i’s shittiness, which should tell you just how powerful Christmas is.

Scalebound this Christmas. Make us all believers.

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Danjin44

The nicest person on this forum
People really need to let this game go, I personally really like the concept but the actual game looked pretty rough and this coming from huge PG fan.


It just didn't worked out, that just how it is.


Edit: Now give this game's Dragon system to Yoko Taro in order to make Drakengard 4.
 
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That looks like the guy from Infamous Second Son riding dragons and trying too hard to be cool.

That being said, if they had the foresight to cancel it it must have been in really bad state (looking at MSs output in the last couple of years).
 
Yeah well, not sure, it was horrible:

The game certainly had promise. Really seems to be pushing the Xbox One so framerate clearly suffers. Do we know why they decided to cancel this? Did it not have a clear direction? Maybe that and the performance problems put the nail in the coffin.
 

Bernkastel

Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Everyone loves Scalebound now.


Some of the comments before announcement of Scalebound cancellation
"xbonegros are so casual they need a help from dragon to beat the game "
"looks like a ps2 game "
"reason it's Xbone only.... It only works 720p. "
"It looks cheap and terrible and something from 15 years ago. "
"CINEMATIC 15 FRAMES PER SECOND "
"So someone gave Dante a hair cut and gave him a pet dragon........ok. "
""Play AS a Twitch Streamer" is this games logo... Soooooo immersion breaking!!!!!!!!!! Stupid headphones! "
"maybe only year exclusive lol " (replying to someone who said its xbox exclusive)
"maybe only year exclusive lol "
"Of course the headphones are coming in a deal that's why they gave them to the character. Microsoft said give us a item to sell "
"FPS be lower than my expectations for upcoming Bethesda titles"
"it looks super laggy, nothing else "
"Meanwhile Nier ran at 60 since the first trailer and actually has good animations and combos. I' m still exited simply because it's Kamiya, but it feels like Microsfot his holding him back and forcing graphics over actual depth and framerate "
"Looks fun, but WOOOOW is the main character's dialogue/attitude cringeworthy. >_<"
"You're welcome to migrate over to PS4 for greatness and RPGs. "
""pre-alpha gameplay" Lmao, nice marketing. "
"is it even 30 fps ?"
"Silky smooth 15 fps and 720p. nice. "
"Great I can be a douche with beat headphones listening to whinny rock music while the better character flies around in the background."
"Meanwhile Nier Automata plays great, with smooth framerate and good graphics, and most of all it plays like a Platinum game. This game doesn't even look like a platinum game, this game is a huge pile of mess. 😏 "
"that 2 fps tho "
"beautiful 20 frames per second. Amazing unsynchronized audi and movement. 10/10 GOTY "
"What is that? 8fps? "
"my eyes can't handle this fps "
"Of course he's wearing headphones. Jeez. "
"Is it 20 fps? "
"Xbox One does one thing.... it plays television really well... "
"wow this game 10 fps because very slow "
"It looks like it's playing at 15fps. Wtf..."
"I mean, if I had to choose between this or Horizon, I would get horizon ... "
"I don't want the "tude", the headphones and the "cool" music... NOT epic. Doesn't match. "
"Emo dante joins lost planet "
"Looks like a cheesy and overpowered (with pet dragon) version of Final Fantasy 15. "
"them framerate drops "
"The combos look so boring... Take some inspiration from DMC or GOW will you?"
"B. O. R. I. N. G "
"The concept of this game looks like it was written by a 10 year old. "
"what i dont get is if you have no interest in scalebound or xbox..why are you here watching the video and leaving a comment...are people really that insecure "
"i swear this comment section is cancer, are you all seriously arguing about which console has better games? grow up"
"You can tell the actor is a straight up white boy. "
"the main guy. It looks like he was made specifically for white males, age 10, who do nothing but drink Dew & much ritos all day, think staying up to 11pm on school nights is "wicked-sick," and are about to go through a rebelious stage. I hope we don't have to be this prick who litterally jumped right out of 2002. "
"I'm not going to lie this doesn't impress me at all. The Devil May Cry series has better gameplay then this. This looks like a game Nintendo would make. Definitely not worth buying an Xbox one for, they should put this on PC that way they can at least get this game to sell properly."
"This is terrible when compared to Horizon zero dawn.. LO "
"Yeah, should've bought a PS4...."
"The game is so choppy "
"This looks bad. :-( "
""go over there" 5 hours into this game I'll smash my tv I hate repetitive voice commands"
"dear god, that xbone signature 15 fps is giving me headache just from watching this "
"bad grafic style, lookliike action figure"
"looks like the whole game is on some slowmotion mode "
"The best part was when the main character stopped talking. "
"The world doesn't look impressive at all. It's like they put a lot of effort in the combat graphics and forgot about the environment "
"this game looks so... dull? uninspired? boring? "
"So can i have a manly sword instead of that toothpick? "
"cracka anime got it... pretty lame "
"30 fps lock and dropping heavily.. "
"the main character seems so douchey and grating. He's trying to be hip and witty and laid back, but it's just so forced and stale. Ugh, just kill me. "
"22 ~ 18 fps what the hell "
"Framerate bound "
"Here's a dragon to ride! Oh wait, you can only ride him in cut scenes or traveling to next level. LAME AF "
"Looks very slow. What are you doing Platinum..? A game for grandmas? Also, framerate better be 60 constant and not that horrible slideshow. "
"that frame rate "
"Compare this to Horizon Zero Dawn. Shocking. "
"How does platinum games make a game slower than devil may cry 1 "
"Uncharted I chose Youuuu! xD "
"Wow, Pokemon has taken a big step! "
"has a dragon but walks everywhere Genius "
"They should call this game 5fps bound lol! "
"the frame rate is too low "
"Rip Fps ^^ who agree "
"Uncharted 4 and Bloodborne. .. end of story... "
"Looks boring"
"What's with the horrible fps..? o_O "
"Glorious cinematic 15 FPS "
"Not for me, I'll pass on this one. "
"A headset while fighting? What is this BS? "
"5 ps per second "
"Horrendous frame rate and slow, simplistic combat aside, (I know it's only pre-alpha so these will naturally change after release) why are we seeing such an increase in generic, edgy, pseudo-hip protagonists these days..? Almost every word that came out of that character's mouth was painful and cringe worthy. And the dubstep battle music didn't help any. I blame Microsoft studios for this one. I can't imagine Platinum Games trying to appeal to such a demographic. I.E., The couple hundred 15 year olds that may arbitrarily decide to pick this game up one day. RIP. "
"Ugh, this turns me off in the worst way. It definitely feels like an XOne exclusive. "
"That "Music" is horrendous. "
Now compare them with the current reception of Scalebound.
 
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Halo Infinite didn't cost 500 million, please stop spreading that. It was debunked by Stinkles.

With that said, Scalebound does look a lot better than Infinite

Edit: didn't mean for double post, please halp mods
 
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Codes 208

Member
When a dead last gen game looks better than your flagship next gen game.
In what does it look better? 720p resolution with low fod while hardly maintaining over 20fps isn’t exactly what comes to my mind as better.

the only thing that looks nice are the cutscenes before the quality goes back to shit during gameplay.
 

Chiggs

Gold Member
Better than Xbox Dynasty, who first made up this rumour

Stinkles would say anything to defend the game. He is paid to do so. It’s true that Xbox Dynasty doesn’t back anything up, but if Halo Infinite is going to be MS’s Destiny for the next 5-10 years, then 500 million, especially with what appears to be a troubled development, is believable. Fuzzy math:
  • New engine development + already accrued development costs (more like development hell at this point)
  • Projected ongoing development and maintenance over its lifespan
  • Initial and prolonged marketing costs
  • Delay costs, including contractual penalties to partners
In a world where Justice League cost anywhere from 300 million to 600+ million, depending on who you ask (and is getting more sunk into it), Halo Infinite’s rumored 500 million seems quite plausible.

You might very well say, “you can’t prove it,” and my response will still be:
  • I don’t trust Stinkles as a source, period.
  • 343i are—without a shadow of a doubt—inept, and them blowing through oodles of cash and still producing the garbage we saw in July just strikes me as being the accurate narrative.
In any event, it’s likely we’ll never know the true costs, but all signs point to this as being a mess. And you and I both know companies lie to save face. All the time.
 

Bernkastel

Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Stinkles would say anything to defend the game. He is paid to do so. It’s true that Xbox Dynasty doesn’t back anything up, but if Halo Infinite is going to be MS’s Destiny for the next 5-10 years, then 500 million, especially with what appears to be a troubled development, is believable. Fuzzy math:
  • New engine development + already accrued development costs (more like development hell at this point)
  • Projected ongoing development and maintenance over its lifespan
  • Initial and prolonged marketing costs
  • Delay costs, including contractual penalties to partners
In a world where Justice League cost anywhere from 300 million to 600+ million, depending on who you ask (and is getting more sunk into it), Halo Infinite’s rumored 500 million seems quite plausible.

You might very well say, “you can’t prove it,” and my response will still be:
  • I don’t trust Stinkles as a source, period.
  • 343i are—without a shadow of a doubt—inept, and them blowing through oodles of cash and still producing the garbage we saw in July just strikes me as being the accurate narrative.
In any event, it’s likely we’ll never know the true costs, but all signs point to this as being a mess. And you and I both know companies lie to save face. All the time.
That is the most stupid list I have seen. New engine does not cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Cyberpunk 2077 has been delayed way more than Halo Infinite(showing the first teaser in 2013), shouldnt it cost more? Just because you made a list does not mean it would necessarily add up to support your cause. I still dont know why would trust the 500 million number thrown by Xbox Dynasty(who dont have any credibility themselves)
 

Chiggs

Gold Member
That is the most stupid list I have seen. New engine does not cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Cyberpunk 2077 has been delayed way more than Halo Infinite(showing the first teaser in 2013), shouldnt it cost more? Just because you made a list does not mean it would necessarily add up to support your cause. I still dont know why would trust the 500 million number thrown by Xbox Dynasty(who dont have any credibility themselves)

Cool, so you’re going to be disingenuous and ignore the rest of the stuff I posted, and instead fixate on one bullet point. Gotcha.

And comparing CD Projekt Red to 343i? And you insinuate I’m stupid?

Fun fact: I have more experience with project & product development and management in the entertainment industry than you might think. Nope, I’m not some famous hotshot(only semi), but I do know a mismanaged disaster when I see one, as do many other people here without even a shred of the experience I have.

Believe Stinkles all you want. Just be glad your livelihood doesn’t depend on his competence or honesty. Unless you happen to work for MS. In that case, spill the beans already.

As for believing Xbox Dynasty? It’s more about not believing in 343i; they are morons of the highest order.
 
I wouldn’t mind seeing Scalebound resurrected, but pragmatically speaking it probably wouldn’t be worth the investment it for Phil because I doubt it would sell as much as I hate to say that.
 

godhandiscen

There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
I feel the anger, but Phil made a good call on this one. If the rumors are true, the blame lies solely with the studio.

Also, leaders at 343i won’t be fired immediately if they are at fault. Right now the studio needs stability.
 

Bernkastel

Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Cool, so you’re going to be disingenuous and ignore the rest of the stuff I posted, and instead fixate on one bullet point. Gotcha.

And comparing CD Projekt Red to 343i? And you insinuate I’m stupid?

Fun fact: I have more experience with project & product development and management in the entertainment industry than you might think. Nope, I’m not some famous hotshot(only semi), but I do know a mismanaged disaster when I see one, as do many other people here without even a shred of the experience I have.

Believe Stinkles all you want. Just be glad your livelihood doesn’t depend on his competence or honesty. Unless you happen to work for MS. In that case, spill the beans already.

As for believing Xbox Dynasty? It’s more about not believing in 343i; they are morons of the highest order.
Why would I go through the effort of addressing all your points in a low effort bait thread ? And why cant I compare 343i and CDPR ? You are here writing prophecies based on one delay, and then ask me to not mention anyone else.
Fun fact: I have more experience with project & product development and management in the entertainment industry than you might think. Nope, I’m not some famous hotshot(only semi), but I do know a mismanaged disaster when I see one, as do many other people here without even a shred of the experience I have.
And yet you think Scalebound was in a state of being released. You dont have any form of credibility to decide who to believe.
 

Chiggs

Gold Member
And yet you think Scalebound was in a state of being released. You dont have any form of credibility to decide who to believe.

Somehow, you thought this was an earnest plea on my behalf to get Phil to release Scalebound, even when I say this in bold text?

Release it this fall for $24.99, and with a free Dominos pizza code.

You strike me as a massively sheltered individual, and one whose console feelings are easily hurt. That can't be easy.

Best of luck with all future endeavors.
 

Bernkastel

Ask me about my fanboy energy!
Somehow, you thought this was an earnest plea on my behalf to get Phil to release Scalebound, even when I say this in bold text?

You strike me as a massively sheltered individual, and one whose console feelings are easily hurt. That can't be easy.

Best of luck with all future endeavors.
No need to project your feelings on me. If you admit this was a joke thread, you shouldnt be expecting the replies you wanted.
 

jigglet

Banned
In what does it look better? 720p resolution with low fod while hardly maintaining over 20fps isn’t exactly what comes to my mind as better.

the only thing that looks nice are the cutscenes before the quality goes back to shit during gameplay.

it’s a joke, dude. The background textures in that game look like shit and as you say it probably runs at 20-30fps.
 
Stinkles would say anything to defend the game. He is paid to do so. It’s true that Xbox Dynasty doesn’t back anything up, but if Halo Infinite is going to be MS’s Destiny for the next 5-10 years, then 500 million, especially with what appears to be a troubled development, is believable. Fuzzy math:
  • New engine development + already accrued development costs (more like development hell at this point)
  • Projected ongoing development and maintenance over its lifespan
  • Initial and prolonged marketing costs
  • Delay costs, including contractual penalties to partners
In a world where Justice League cost anywhere from 300 million to 600+ million, depending on who you ask (and is getting more sunk into it), Halo Infinite’s rumored 500 million seems quite plausible.

You might very well say, “you can’t prove it,” and my response will still be:
  • I don’t trust Stinkles as a source, period.
  • 343i are—without a shadow of a doubt—inept, and them blowing through oodles of cash and still producing the garbage we saw in July just strikes me as being the accurate narrative.
In any event, it’s likely we’ll never know the true costs, but all signs point to this as being a mess. And you and I both know companies lie to save face. All the time.

Next, you'll be saying that The Last Guardian was the 1st $1 Billion dollar game. Given its trouble development need to adjust the engine for 2 different platforms and was in development for over 7 years *rolleyes*
 

Jadsey

Member
They should join forces and call it ScHalobound Infinite.

Craig would look good riding on a dragon.
 
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