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[supernova8]

I encourage you to read the entire post in addition to the comments, but here are some golden nuggets of goodness:

"The moderators of /r/AMD do NOT condone locating scalper auctions, leaving dozens of absurd bids, so as to repeatedly derail a scalper's opportunity to make a sale and ultimately de-incentivise PC hardware scalping,"

"Evil cyber criminals decimated this totally innocent and honest listing with dozens of fake bids. They bidded so rapidly the lister couldn't even cancel them all - So sad!"

"Doing this isn't a good idea because it could get your account banned from eBay... unless you were to use, say, a VPN service to make a bunch of throwaway eBay accounts and stockpile their logins in a spreadsheet or something"

Finally there seems to be some way of fighting the scalpers. People using bots for the greater good. Feels like the Terminator sequel.

 

[llien]

It's sick, although, I don't mind.

Scalpers are merely reflections of the underlying issue: huge gap between supply and demand and peoples' willingness to pay more.

 

[RPSleon]

Appropriate profile picture there op.

 

[regawdless]

Very sad. I hope nobody is doing such evil things.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

This is incredible. The internet is a force for Good.

 

[M1chl]

I love the link throw there....although very sad and very not ok!

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Childish tossers.

Ohh waahh some big boy with more money bought product before me, HOW DO I CONSOOOOOOM NOW!?!

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Childish tossers.

Ohh waahh some big boy with more money bought product before me, HOW DO I CONSOOOOOOM NOW!?!

imagine whiteknighting for scalpers

 

[Kamina]

I admit, it took me until half way through to notice this was satire.
Lets hope some people totally not go and derail Scalper auctions.

This is incredible. The internet is a force for Good.

Sometimes, when it isn’t doing the Devil’s work

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

I admit, it took me until half way through to notice this was satire.
Lets hope some people totally not go and derail Scalper auctions.


Sometimes, when it isn’t doing the Devil’s work

lol I guess I find it funny that people are actually fighting back against scalping on a larger scale. It has been an issue for awhile. I've watched retro game prices bubble and crater over the years, mostly due to the customers being patient for a few months/years until prices come down to a more reasonable level. To see graphics card scalpers get their due is impressive. The grey area of scalping has always been a tough nut to crack.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

imagine whiteknighting for scalpers

Scalpers? I don't give a fuck about them.

But this pathetic bullshit of people crying because they think they deserve PrOdUcT just because, is the height of big-babies throwing mantrums.

They bought them first and it's their right to do what they want with the product they've purchased.

 

[supernova8]

I admit, it took me until half way through to notice this was satire.
Lets hope some people totally not go and derail Scalper auctions.

I've seen the same on Mercari in Japan but in the sense of people spamming the comments with all sorts of remarks like "I'll have it for $10, actually no you can keep it" or even just stuff like "You should be ashamed of yourself".

I think people really have had enough of scalpers. Even if scalpers don't eventually go away, hopefully the average scalper price will go down to the point that fewer scalpers will feel it's worth it and then more units will get into the hands of real consumers.

 

[supernova8]

Scalpers? I don't give a fuck about them.

But this pathetic bullshit of people crying because they think they deserve PrOdUcT just because, is the height of big-babies throwing mantrums.

They bought them first and it's their right to do what they want with the product they've purchased.

Wait so you don't give a fuck about scalpers but you do give a fuck about people trying to combat scalpers?

Surely you either give a fuck or you don't

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Wait so you don't give a fuck about scalpers but you do give a fuck about people trying to combat scalpers?

Surely you either give a fuck or you don't

Rambling explanation incoming


The idea of scalping, as in, some people buying something and selling it on for a mark-up, i don't care about. It happens, that's what free-market is about

I do give a shit about people using methods much more petty, childish and pathetic to combat scalping, when the easiest method to combat scalping is to stop buying the marked-up product. But that requires self-control, so better to go on the internet like a pathetic dick-hole to complain about capitalism.

Sorry for the thread derail. Not my intention

 

[Blitzmangoman]

Hey S Slings and Arrows shut up ya bald baby.

@Topic, nice.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

The idea of scalping, as in, some people buying something and selling it on for a mark-up, i don't care about. It happens, that's what free-market is about

There's nothing "free market" about scalping. The scalpers bot the shit out of websites and make it impossible for anyone else to buy anything.

I do give a shit about people using methods much more petty, childish and pathetic to combat scalping, when the easiest method to combat scalping is to stop buying the marked-up product. But that requires self-control, so better to go on the internet like a pathetic dick-hole to complain about capitalism.

Boycotting something is not a valid method to combat it because a boycott requires basically everyone agreeing to the boycott which obviously isn't happening since everyone is making purchasing decisions individually. Also you're falsely assuming that everyone who bitches about scalpers is buying from scalpers. They obviously aren't.

And again, scalping has nothing to do with capitalism.

 

[regawdless]

Also please totally not continue to do it for the 30xx Nvidia cards. That would be very bad as well.

 

[LazyParrot]

I do give a shit about people using methods much more petty, childish and pathetic to combat scalping, when the easiest method to combat scalping is to stop buying the marked-up product.

Isn't this exactly what these people are doing? Not only are they not buying it themselves, but they are also stopping others from doing so. Seems easier and more effective to me than boycotting on an individual level.

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

Most of the RTX 30xx rx60xx market probably already have a decent GPU, just wait it out.

For consoles is a different matter, all in all I'm feeling great that my current pc can play Cyberpunk with RT, I'm good until this mess is sorted. I will try to buy my ps5 when with God of War Ragnarok releases.

 

[Sebastian Suola]

There's nothing "free market" about scalping.

Of course there is.

And again, scalping has nothing to do with capitalism.

Of course it does.

 

[Bernd Lauert]

Of course there is.

Of course it does.

Cool, now I'm convinced.

 

[Xyphie]

Imagine being this much a cringelord because you have to wait a few months to get the latest consumer electronic device. Must consume product.

 

[michaelius]

I still think that reporting every scalper to proper tax authorities would work better

 

[Slings and Arrows]

I still think that reporting every scalper to proper tax authorities would work better

That is an excellent idea.

Somebody give this man a medal, he has solved scalping. If you could link proof of purchase with tax returns, scalping would disappear over-night.

Genius, no sarcasm, that is genius.

 

[Phunkydiabetic]

I still think that reporting every scalper to proper tax authorities would work better

Shit, better hop on your local buy and sell page and report everyone there as well.

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Hey S Slings and Arrows shut up ya bald baby.

@Topic, nice.

Why? This is a forum where people discuss things.

Funny that you call me the baby, when man-babies are taking up time disrupting the success of others.

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

You can't restrain other people's freedom, scalping is awful but the scalpers invest their money on it, they didn't stole anything. And the people who bought those products agreed in paying the higher price. It's unfortunate, frustrating I get it, but consider the problem you have. Such mundane superfluous problem, you can't get your console at MSRP price. So what? Your choice is simple, put your money where your mouth is, don't buy it.

 

[Topher]

My sarcasm detector was a bit flaky at first when reading this moderator's post. I was thinking "dafuq is wrong with this guy". lol

The idea of scalping, as in, some people buying something and selling it on for a mark-up, i don't care about. It happens, that's what free-market is about

I do give a shit about people using methods much more petty, childish and pathetic to combat scalping, when the easiest method to combat scalping is to stop buying the marked-up product. But that requires self-control, so better to go on the internet like a pathetic dick-hole to complain about capitalism.

But if you are going to go down the purist free-market road then I'd say any and every tactic is legit. Kind of silly to say you don't care if some guy uses bots to gobble up mass stock of a product to artificially raise the price, but have a problem when others engage in tactics that disrupt that guy's methods.

In a perfect world, no one would pay those scalpers the ridiculous prices they are asking, but fools and money are never on good terms with each other. The fact that these fools exist doesn't excuse the bot-riding scalper dickheads. Just doesn't.

 

[supernova8]

The idea of scalping, as in, some people buying something and selling it on for a mark-up, i don't care about. It happens, that's what free-market is about

I do give a shit about people using methods much more petty, childish and pathetic to combat scalping, when the easiest method to combat scalping is to stop buying the marked-up product. But that requires self-control, so better to go on the internet like a pathetic dick-hole to complain about capitalism.

While I can definitely see where you're coming from, and it would be a bit of a reach to refer to people who have no self-control as "vulnerable", it seems perfectly fitting to me that the best way to combat scalper bots is to use anti-scalper bots.

I would still be annoyed if someone used a bot to beat me to a purchase but if they were using it for themselves (and not just reselling it for a fat markup) I'd be like meh ok well I guess shit happens, I'll wait for a restock. Thing is, if that same person is using a bot to buy up all the units and resell them then I start to more easily think "fuck that guy" and (good or bad) wish the worst to him (of course stopping well before actual violence or death threats etc).

I would consider these anti-scalper bots as just helping to restore a level playing field. If anything they are just trolling them and I find it hilarious.

Sorry for the thread derail. Not my intention

No worries you're entitled to your view. It's not Resetera you can say whatever you like, friend!

 

[Slings and Arrows]

Sounds like something a scalper would say.

I'm not a scalper, but that makes no difference to my views on scalping.

But if you are going to go down the purist free-market road then I'd say any and every tactic is legit. Kind of silly to say you don't care if some guy uses bots to gobble up mass stock of a product to artificially raise the price, but have a problem when others engage in tactics that disrupt that guy's methods.

Those scalpers risk their money, they have to put money in to purchase bots, they have to be ready and dedicated to what they do. They don't just wake up with a pallet of PS5's in the garage like "ohh shit, nice one".

Scalpers engage in practices which are frowned upon, but are as old as time.
Anti-scalpers engage in childish tactics, akin to a spoiled brat throwing his toys out of the cot, just because they can't wait.

In a perfect world, no one would pay those scalpers the ridiculous prices they are asking, but fools and money are never on good terms with each other. The fact that these fools exist doesn't excuse the bot-riding scalper dickheads. Just doesn't.

You started out so well, then shit the bed on the last bit.

In a perfect world, no one would pay those prices. Bingo
Fools and money are easily parted. Bingo
Cause and effect = shit the bed.

No worries you're entitled to your view. It's not Resetera you can say whatever you like, friend!

I appreciate that, but there is a scalper thread for this. I shouldnt have shit up the specific AMD thread. Mods halp!

 

[-Minsc-]

I admit, it took me until half way through to notice this was satire.
Lets hope some people totally not go and derail Scalper auctions.

I was wondering if I was reading The Onion.

 

[Whataborman]

In this thread: Grown men and women crying because someone was able to buy a product they wanted and couldn't get.

I bought my 3080, PS5, and XSX via scalpers on eBay. I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

The added cost is well worth the time and effort I saved.

 

[Topher]

Those scalpers risk their money, they have to put money in to purchase bots, they have to be ready and dedicated to what they do. They don't just wake up with a pallet of PS5's in the garage like "ohh shit, nice one".

Scalpers engage in practices which are frowned upon, but are as old as time.
Anti-scalpers engage in childish tactics, akin to a spoiled brat throwing his toys out of the cot, just because they can't wait.

Actually, scalpers use childish tactics to force their way to the front of the line. Why are you pretending that they are waiting? Why are you pretending they are patient? Who gives a shit that the scalper had to buy a bot? They are reselling for up to three times MSRP. Look.....if a guy gets in line and buys a console like the rest of us but decides to put it on ebay instead.....fine, I've got no problem with that. But buying a bot to bypass the rest of us who are "ready and dedicated" to make a purchase at the announced time and buys every last unit he can and shuts the rest of us out? Yeah....fuck that guy. That guy is a piece of shit. You can call that "shit the bed" all you want, but that's how I see it.

 

[supernova8]

Imagine being this much a cringelord because you have to wait a few months to get the latest consumer electronic device. Must consume product.

Ticketmaster to close resale sites Seatwave and Get Me In

Seatwave and Get Me In will be shut down in October in a bid to fight touts, Ticketmaster announces.

www.bbc.com

The UK government has been looking into finding a way to outlaw scalping (event ticket resales in this case) for a few years now. It's certainly not new but it's simply getting worse. The bots are becoming commoditized. It's not like this is some fringe issue that nerds are tackling in isolation.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

So Scalpers are Robin Hoods or something? LMAO

 

[ReBurn]

If somebody has the time to bot scalper auctions why don't they instead use a bot to buy the shit they want before the scalpers get it?

 

[Tumle]

In this thread: Grown men and women crying because someone was able to buy a product they wanted and couldn't get.

I bought my 3080, PS5, and XSX via scalpers on eBay. I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

The added cost is well worth the time and effort I saved.

the time and effort you would have to put in is created by said scalpers.. so you are basically paying them ekstra to make it harder for you to get a card.. a fool and his money..

i think i'm going to open a pest control company in your area, release a bunch of cockroaches in your house/apartment, ring the doorbell to save you the time and effort, and charge you a premium!

Yay unregulated capitalism!

 

[Kamina]

So Scalpers are Robin Hoods or something? LMAO

Read it again, slowly and carefully

 

[Raonak]

I can't believe there are morons in here defending the scalpers.

We are all adults that spent way too much time on a videogame forum. Damn straight we want our videogame products.

If you think that's childish then this very concept of this site is childish.

 

[hemo memo]

I love this. Screw scalpers.

 

[wachie]

imagine whiteknighting for scalpers

Peak Alpha Beta.

 

[supernova8]

If somebody has the time to bot scalper auctions why don't they instead use a bot to buy the shit they want before the scalpers get it?

Well there obviously aren't that many scalpers in the grand scheme of things so if all the botters used their bots to buy one unit (for personal use) there would still be more stock to go around. Problem is when scalpers use the bots to buy up all the stock with the sole purpose of reselling.

 

[Skifi28]

I love this. Screw scalpers.

Please no, or at least use protection. The last thing we need is more of them.

 

[ReBurn]

Well there obviously aren't that many scalpers in the grand scheme of things so if all the botters used their bots to buy one unit (for personal use) there would still be more stock to go around. Problem is when scalpers use the bots to buy up all the stock with the sole purpose of reselling.

You missed the point of what I was saying. But that's ok.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It’s just the free market doing its thing, right scalpers?

 

[GrayFoxPL]

I'm glad scalpers starting to get what they deserve. Human trash.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

Shit, better hop on your local buy and sell page and report everyone there as well.

While flipping a few hundred on a single unit would certainly fly under the radar, if you make tens of thousands of dollars like that that one guy on Twitter with the 30+ PS5s then the IRS is most certainly interested in getting Uncle Sam's cut.

 

[Kataploom]

Doing business is bad cause capitalism is bad. Think about it, we should all have free GPUs cause having to pass through a paywall violates our rights to get fun!!!111!!1

 

[Sloth Guevara]

Thoughts and prayers.

 

[VolticArchangel]