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NeoGAF Ban Review/Justice Project

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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
We got a conspiracy spy within our ranks
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Are people account suiciding or what!? I've seen some pretty long standing, prominent members, just say "fuck it", and post some crazy shit, just to get yeeted into eternity. Pretty sad to see, hope these guys are ok.
 
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borborygmus

Member
It comes off as really inconsistent that promoting Russiagate and other conspiracies about Russia is not bannable. This is a conspiracy theory that promoted literal hatred for an entire presidential term, that was investigated and amounted to nothing. And yet I'm still seeing posts about it.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
It comes off as really inconsistent that promoting Russiagate and other conspiracies about Russia is not bannable. This is a conspiracy theory that promoted literal hatred for an entire presidential term, that was investigated and amounted to nothing. And yet I'm still seeing posts about it.

I've mostly seen it brought up by righty posters complaining about it as a conspiracy pushed by the mass media now that alt-media like Alex Jones is no longer welcome there.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
I'm not gonna snitch but I have some not-right-wing posters in mind.

I think it's safe to say that Russia engaged in a campaign to sabotage the election, but no collusion could ever be proven and neither who was Putting attempting to benefit.

Wasn't that the committee conclusion?
 

borborygmus

Member
I think it's safe to say that Russia engaged in a campaign to sabotage the election, but no collusion could ever be proven and neither who was Putting attempting to benefit.

Wasn't that the committee conclusion?
IMHO That conclusion is pretty generous toward your position, but even if it weren't, there are similar "but it's safe to say that..." points that can be made for bannable positions too.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
IMHO That conclusion is pretty generous toward your position, but even if it weren't, there are similar "but it's safe to say that..." points that can be made for bannable positions too.
It's not what's generous or not generous towards one position or the other, is attempting to root discussions on facts and after 3 years didn't the committe reach the conclusion that these were the provable facts? Feel free to argue it.
 
It's not what's generous or not generous towards one position or the other, is attempting to root discussions on facts and after 3 years didn't the committe reach the conclusion that these were the provable facts? Feel free to argue it.
There is no question Russia is trying to cause chaos in the social/political aspects of America. However, the original claim was that Trump was working together with Russia and that Trump's victory was illegitimate. There was no evidence proven to link the two or that it even had a very tangible effect on the election. TLDR: Fuck Russia
 

Redneckerz

Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
There is no question Russia is trying to cause chaos in the social/political aspects of America. However, the original claim was that Trump was working together with Russia and that Trump's victory was illegitimate. There was no evidence proven to link the two or that it even had a very tangible effect on the election. TLDR: Fuck Russia
Russia:
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Hi there, I just got accepted, and while I sent an email I never got a response.

I had heard you guys are restoring with old accounts that were unfairly banned by the crazed chamber villagers that used to run things here, and I was wondering if I could get my old account fuzed with this one.

For reference I was banned for this post


And then apparently because I made that comment I was turned into a white person because making the above post was apparently the same as pouring bleach on myself


Additionally, I can't find it, but the mod who did the ban talked trash about me in a different thread because I guess they were too cowardly to do it in that one.

Also responding late to that second link: Newsflash, guess who did? I did. Also lol, switch myth.
 
Hi there, I just got accepted, and while I sent an email I never got a response.

I had heard you guys are restoring with old accounts that were unfairly banned by the crazed chamber villagers that used to run things here, and I was wondering if I could get my old account fuzed with this one.

For reference I was banned for this post


And then apparently because I made that comment I was turned into a white person because making the above post was apparently the same as pouring bleach on myself


Additionally, I can't find it, but the mod who did the ban talked trash about me in a different thread because I guess they were too cowardly to do it in that one.

Also responding late to that second link: Newsflash, guess who did? I did. Also lol, switch myth.

Perusing those old links....wow. 90% of thr posts in there are irritating af.
 

CatLady

Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Hi there, I just got accepted, and while I sent an email I never got a response.

I had heard you guys are restoring with old accounts that were unfairly banned by the crazed chamber villagers that used to run things here, and I was wondering if I could get my old account fuzed with this one.

For reference I was banned for this post


And then apparently because I made that comment I was turned into a white person because making the above post was apparently the same as pouring bleach on myself


Additionally, I can't find it, but the mod who did the ban talked trash about me in a different thread because I guess they were too cowardly to do it in that one.

Also responding late to that second link: Newsflash, guess who did? I did. Also lol, switch myth.

OMG what a shitshow GAF must have been back then. But that reply to you is comedy gold. I love it when crazy people think they speak for an entire race.
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
they find your kind ever so tasty.
Alas, this is an immutable characteristic of ours that is both our pride as well as our bane.

Currently our scientists are hard at work on a hard, durable protein shell that will either serve as a cat-proof suit of armor or a tasty snack alternative to us. Not sure yet.

We have employed your mortal enemy the doge to help us research this project as they are aware of your weaknesses and vulnerabilities.

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DogofWar

Member
Alas, this is an immutable characteristic of ours that is both our pride as well as our bane.

Currently our scientists are hard at work on a hard, durable protein shell that will either serve as a cat-proof suit of armor or a tasty snack alternative to us. Not sure yet.

We have employed your mortal enemy the doge to help us research this project as they are aware of your weaknesses and vulnerabilities.

ZnYwB7A.jpg

Hey now this little project of ours is secret and I do not appreciate you posting my pictures here.
 

Redneckerz

Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Alas, this is an immutable characteristic of ours that is both our pride as well as our bane.

Currently our scientists are hard at work on a hard, durable protein shell that will either serve as a cat-proof suit of armor or a tasty snack alternative to us. Not sure yet.

We have employed your mortal enemy the doge to help us research this project as they are aware of your weaknesses and vulnerabilities.

ZnYwB7A.jpg
Why is Fat4All's old but long standing avatar posted?
 

borborygmus

Member
There is no question Russia is trying to cause chaos in the social/political aspects of America. However, the original claim was that Trump was working together with Russia and that Trump's victory was illegitimate. There was no evidence proven to link the two or that it even had a very tangible effect on the election. TLDR: Fuck Russia
You might say people are still pushing the theory that "Trump stole the 2016 election thanks to Russia." As an aside, the conclusions of the "committee" were nothing but a face-saving exercise after spending millions and finding very little and frankly it's a weak argument to make in order to justify that the conspiracy theory keeps getting posted. Bitmap Frogs Bitmap Frogs you've shifted the goalposts by citing the conclusions of the committee as if they supported the conspiracy theory, when they don't.

It is clear that some posters wish to benefit from the fact that an offense conducted by right-wing actors caused a policy shift on this forum, in order to provoke others by posting left-wing conspiracy theories of an equally questionable nature, yet which fly under the radar because all the attention is on right-wing offenders currently.

If the crackdown on "conspiracy theories" is principled then it should cover meritless theories from both sides, and it should come down harder on people intentionally exploiting the situation to bait other posters or openly telling them to request permabans.

If the recent events at the US capitol are something this forum considers bad then you'd think some of these people who seem so happy about it as to do "victory laps" would be seen as off message and treated accordingly.
 
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If the crackdown on "conspiracy theories" is principled then it should cover meritless theories from both sides, and it should come down harder on people intentionally exploiting the situation to bait other posters or openly telling them to request permabans.

I was banned before the "RESET" in 2016 for nonsense and I must say its starting to feel alot like back to the future.
I think the problem here comes down to who determines what a conspiracy theory is . Someone who leans far left or far right will see "conspiracy" where it does not exist .

Its a real slippery slope here.
 

borborygmus

Member
I was banned before the "RESET" in 2016 for nonsense and I must say its starting to feel alot like back to the future.
I think the problem here comes down to who determines what a conspiracy theory is . Someone who leans far left or far right will see "conspiracy" where it does not exist .

Its a real slippery slope here.

"Trump stole the 2016 election thanks to Russia" is undeniably a conspiracy theory.
 

prag16

Banned
Not sure my being reply banned from the COVID OT was entirely fair. My post was prior too the EviLore EviLore warning.

I mean it's whatever. I don't HAVE to post on that thread. And my posts have been heavily political in there.

But I'll just say that while I know it's a 'news' thread not REALLY intended to be political, it's hard to keep politics out of it when the news can't keep politics out of it.

Take this for example. The article is a fairly stale account of some of the nuts and bolts of vaccine storage, distribution, and administration.


Yet reading the headline and subtitle blurb, the takeaway is that Trump is fucking up and getting people killed. That's the clear implication. The contents of the body really do not match, and there's really no actual reason for Trump to even be mentioned. But if you don't read the full article, the logical conclusion is "states are running out of shots and Trump is to blame."

Is there a different thread where criticizing shitty COVID media coverage week be allowed?
 
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Yet reading the headline and subtitle blurb, the takeaway is that Trump is fucking up and getting people killed. That's the clear implication. The contents of the body really do not match, and there's really no actual reason for Trump to even be mentioned.

Is there a different thread where criticizing shitty COVID media coverage week be allowed?
Its really just a fairly straightforward, fact-based article. It doesn't talk about anyone getting killed. It explains that hospitals were reporting an extra dose was left over in the vials. So Trump administration tried to help by changing the label from 5 to 6 doses. But they didn't realize you only get an extra dose if its done perfectly with zero spillage and with a certain type of syringe. So its interfering with logistics planning now since lots of places don't have the equipment for the extra dose.

Thats just all facts.
 
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"Trump stole the 2016 election thanks to Russia" is undeniably a conspiracy theory.
I agree... but Here is where things get twisted.... We had Media pushing these narratives even after the investigation concluded you could turn the news and still hear these crazy things. If you had someone listening to only to left leaning media they would believe this .

So if you have people repeating what they hear on the news are they spouting conspiracy theories or do they believe them ?

I can see getting banned if you are spreading BS but if you are being fed BS from National News and repeat it then this should not be bannable. That is a teachable moment but it should not result in a ban.

Let people speak their mind and let the truth be debated, its the only way to neutral.

If there are topics we don't want discussed because there is no consensus then just end all discussion on the subject, not just one side.
 
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Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
You might say people are still pushing the theory that "Trump stole the 2016 election thanks to Russia." As an aside, the conclusions of the "committee" were nothing but a face-saving exercise after spending millions and finding very little and frankly it's a weak argument to make in order to justify that the conspiracy theory keeps getting posted. Bitmap Frogs Bitmap Frogs you've shifted the goalposts by citing the conclusions of the committee as if they supported the conspiracy theory, when they don't.

It is clear that some posters wish to benefit from the fact that an offense conducted by right-wing actors caused a policy shift on this forum, in order to provoke others by posting left-wing conspiracy theories of an equally questionable nature, yet which fly under the radar because all the attention is on right-wing offenders currently.

If the crackdown on "conspiracy theories" is principled then it should cover meritless theories from both sides, and it should come down harder on people intentionally exploiting the situation to bait other posters or openly telling them to request permabans.

If the recent events at the US capitol are something this forum considers bad then you'd think some of these people who seem so happy about it as to do "victory laps" would be seen as off message and treated accordingly.

Honestly, I don’t know what’s wrong with the conclusions. There was no collusion, Trump and his campaign were exonerated.

What else you expected from the committee.
 
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borborygmus

Member
Honestly, I don’t know what’s wrong with the conclusions. There was no collusion, Trump and his campaign were exonerated and it exposed the first impeachment as nothing but baseless theatrics.
What's wrong is the mention of the fact that there was some Russian activity as justification for people continuing to propagate the "Trump is a Russian agent and he stole the 2016 election" hoax. I'm finding it very hard to gauge what is acceptable to talk about at this point except for the apparent principle of "it's OK if it's pro-left" but I don't want to believe that is the case because that would be very disappointing, so I'm hoping for a clearer statement of what the policy is, and obviously I'm looking for a principled enforcement of said policy whatever it actually is.

This is not an ultimatum or a threat, but I'm just probably going to post a lot less because of the above. Leftists using every chance to gloat and ban bait and posting pro-left conspiracy theories is not a nice environment, with all due respect.
 
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prag16

Banned
Its really just a fairly straightforward, fact-based article. It doesn't talk about anyone getting killed. It explains that hospitals were reporting an extra dose was left over in the vials. So Trump administration tried to help by changing the label from 5 to 6 doses. But they didn't realize you only get an extra dose if its done perfectly with zero spillage and with a certain type of syringe. So its interfering with logistics planning now since lots of places don't have the equipment for the extra dose.

Thats just all facts.
That's still not even accurate. Pfizer requested the label change and the FDA okay'd it. Trump didn't do anything. The article doesn't need to even mention Trump anywhere, but they instead framed it as if Trump fucked up. Because MSM gonna MSM. Do you deny the header implies this? If so then I don't know what to tell you.
 
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