When a card comes out and its main selling point is if you dont have a lastgen card here is one for you, you pretty much already know this product is shit.
Every other RTX card was either a range topper or was compared to prior range toppers because there was a gen on gen improvement.
The 3060 doesnt have that so it was compared to the 1060.....yes the GTX 1060 from frikken 5 years ago.
Dont kid yourself into think youll get this card at MSRP.
Itll be 400 dollars when all is said and done.
So near literally the same price as the 2060 Super that it performs the same as.
For new PC builder literally any card is better than no card so thats pretty much a moot point.
We are talking about people upgrading like on this very page someone is planning on "upgrading" from a 2060 Super to this?
Its a bottom of the barrel card that has an MSRP a couple dollars too high.....thats why im hating on it not because its an outright shit card.
A budget sub 300 dollar 3050 with these specs would be an absolute monster and really would take over the 1060s spot on the Steam charts.
There are only like ~15 games that Support DLSS, you almost make it sound synonymous with demanding games........but it isnt.
And thats counting DLSS 1.0 shittery.
2.0 and 2.1 the number is lower.
Yes its a selling point but the 5700XT is going outperform this card in 9 outta 10 games that are used as benchmark titles.
So which card would you say is better......if this card only has like 15/10 million titles to choose from where it can excel?
5000 series expected to be Hopper with MCM arch......so thats probably a really good idea because Hopper is likely going to be a truly generational leap.
I pretty much always skip a generation or two with GPUs....after the 3000 series def skipping the 4000 series if it isnt Hopper.
Naming means nothing anymore even for AMD. Only some people still care for it i surely don't. That counts for cpu and gpu solutions.
its compared to a 1060 because that's what nvidia is targeting with this card, its a up to date 2060 basically u could see that from the price they are aiming for and its a dam good card for that price bracket in the current age. as nothing else competes with it. Unless AMD starts to up there effort there is really nothing on the market somebody should consider buying if u can spend ~300 bucks for a gpu.
Whatever the end price will be in the reality isn't interesting for comparison solutions, otherwise u can't compare anything anymore.
No not any card is better, a card that will stays relevant is important. u buy a 970 now second handed u will be severely crippled in games even at 1080p to the point it becomes unplayable at times in recent games and it won't age well for the next year games as they will all be builded for newer engines with pushes more requirements.
The 1060 was already overtaken by a 1660ti/ super and a 2060, this one will replace the 2060 and that 1660 super yet both have the same issue's called v-ram which the 3060 fixes with more performance and a newer architecture.
That 3060 will be a MASSIVE update over the 1060 and nvidia is right on it. because there are tons of people currently looking for a upgrade that come from a 1060 / 1050 or 1050 ti if not 1070. I think its like 10's of millions of consumers. Its smart to offer a better more attractive card in that price range for it.
People already play millions of games on there 1060, they don't need a new gpu for those games. they need a new gpu for games like cyberpunk that made there gpu bend the knee to levels they don't prefer. Aka next generation titles which will even require more and more performance. the same why people with a 2060 wants to upgrade because of its 6gb of v-ram that is holding them back setting wise already in legion and cyberpunk and those are not even proper next gen titles yet the 2060 has enough performance to keep up in framerates in those games perfectly fine.
Going from 20 fps to 60 with cyberpunk is a massive upgrade no matter if u like it or not. guess what those titles also mostly are supported with or the majority of those titles? DLSS and nvidia features. So yea going for a nvidia card and dlss that pushes far past its level performance because of it is something u want to go for.
People ignoring DLSS because they have some agenda against it "aka amd fanboys" honestly are just kidding themselves rather then being realistic. cyberpunk on that 3060 will dumpster a 1080ti and 5700xt any day ( aka higher tier cards ) without effort. Most people consider the 2000 series as 1000 series but with RTX slammed on it, 3000 series is its real successor when u look for upgrades.
Also u keep comparing this card with a 5700xt, yet amd has no card with 12gb of v-ram first off all, or higher then 8 besides 570 dollar cards which are completely out of its range price wise. and the 5700xt last time i checked is still 100 buck more expensive and lacks all the features.
The card has enough v-ram for i/o rtx later on this year and whatever more demanding textures are pushed forwards. It will not fall behind below unacceptable levels like a 1060 3gb for example would aka 5600xt.
Add nvenc support for it, which makes streaming possible which on a AMD gpu is a big fat no go, have fun reserving 8 cores on your CPU to push comparable stream quality forwards on that solution, with RTX voice and if you do any encoding what majority of people do these days probably with the youtube age is far more attractive then what AMD is offering.
If AMD would want to catch up they should have.
1) release that 6800xt for 499, that 6800 for 399 and a 12gb model for 299. + have massive amounts of stock.
2) have a dlss solution
3) start spending money on high profile pc games to get your shit running on it not stuff like that shitty fighter game and some dirt 5 game nobody plays with. Start get your shit to work on cyberpunk for example in the same way nvidia is pushing it.
4) alternative to nvenc
5) create technology's and make them exclusive to your gpu solution. because whatever they invent atm i can use it on my nvidia cards perfectly fine.
6) also no gsync compatible solution as a lot of higher end gpu owners probably have a gsync monitor.
They are massively behind software wise and technology wise already for a good decade now. and frankly unless they start to actually push some software support forwards and not desert there products entirely after they release like the 5000 series driver disaster which every single generation hits amd hardware, they won't be interesting for anybody else unless they offer a steep discount on there products.
I have no clue why u would even chill for a 5700xt card that makes no sense in any market. No matter how much u want too but DLSS isn't going away and more and more titles support it every day and those titles are all also massive gpu hogs. the only title i can think off that was a high profile title that didn't made use of it was ac valhalla but even there engine with legion is making use of it now. So u can expect the next title to also hit DLSS in a year or so from now.
And if amd creates a new solution that everybody can use and every engine will use, then nvidia will also make use of it the next day so yea. Not much reason to ship to them for it.