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[Yoboman]

Agree they have to do more now which they wouldn't needed to if they stuck with Socom, Mag and The Getaway.

Lmao in what world are you living?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Also this is why I hope to god when Sony unviels the PS+ revamp that day one FP games are not a thing

They may as well just hand MS the crown at that point. Just admit their strategy is to just be reactionary

 

[MonarchJT]

We won't ever know, when these decisions were made. But, I do think departure of guy in my avatar, in addition to shuffling of Yoshida to Indie role basically meant leadership were taking a different approach going forward. Shawn Layden was first boss under whose tenure, a PlayStation game hit PC, which was Predator and he did say, they were considering this strategy for Multi-player games but Single-players were being locked into PlayStation. This all changed under Jim Ryan, and more specifically under Hermen Hulst. From, what I have read of his interviews, Hermen is very business oriented guy, repeatedly pointing out a number of times how not making tentpoles cross-gen is "terrible business" and how "they are leaving money off the table" if they don't make certain games cross-gen, or they don't port.

I think both him, Ryan and other men are keeping profitability was at the forefront, and losing sight of the fact, that their business of PlayStation is not as infallible as they perceive it to be. It's greatest strength is quality of first party exclusives, but committing to porting every PS exclusive is diluting one key and perhaps biggest pull towards a PlayStation hardware. Also. what has made it a juggernaut, is that it has been the default platform for everything 3rd party and they enjoy a consistent 30% cut off every sale and MTX. I am amazed, they are willing to gamble all of this to chase $50m per port on PC.

They are trying to emulate Microsoft, but fail to realize, that Microsoft end goal is to not sell 100s of million of Xbox, or to be the major platform holder for 3rd party, so they can enjoy the store benefits. They are moving beyond all of that and basically creating a storefront and service in form of GamePass. Sony, on the other hand, don't have this luxury. Their attempts at both Cloud Gaming and Subscription Service are half-assed and they themselves have said, that they type of games they fund are not sustainable within this model. So, if there's one platform which absolutely needs hardware to survive and thrive, it's PlayStation. But, not only are they losing some juggernaut 3rd parties, they are simultaneously diluting their own IPs by porting them onto PC. It's a baffling strategy, and I can't make any sense of it.

this because all of you wanted to trust that BS gamepass model isn't sustainable. Jim Ryan said that to make their fan base scared about that model and then triumphantly would have repeated what was said left and right by passing the narrative gamepass = bad.
The reality of the facts is instead that gamepass belongs to another 7 million subscribers. Forza h5 has sold millions of copies full price pre-launch and Halo is second just at COD in NDP physical sales.
You will see a 180 when they will release everything day on on their future service

 

[Three]

Sony first party was a complete non factor at the time they were making games like MAG and The Getaway. They have a strong enough first party portfolio to build a userbase off on their own. Buy they do need to do more now

They won't make a first party PS exclusive shooter. Only if something doesn't fill the void will they do it. Exclusivity only lowers sales for a franchise and lowers the chance of success which is why MAG, Socom, and The Getaway died as a franchise. Even Halo died eventually and got overtaken by COD. Some other shooter akin to Fortnite or Destiny will just come along and fill the void. If they sense that a particular genre is swaying people elsewhere then they will just revive it.

 

[Farawayfromhell]

MS also want your money don't worry.

 

[yamaci17]

They said they have 20+ games in the making, both SP- and MP-focused, and games nowadays take years to make, so there might not be anything specific to announce yet, but they surely have a long-ter plan put into motion.

People seem to have a really short memory, Sony always has a sloppy start of each generation, but ~3 years later they start gaining serious momentum and never slow down. So give them another year or two and we'll start seeing Sony constantly getting the headlines.

you cannot seriously compare this to the start of xbox one / ps4

even with a sloppy start, ps4 did not even competition. the kinect fiasco, horrible 1.3 tflops ddr3 machine that struggles at 720/900p, relatively worse halo/gears games that couldn't deliver and came as of late. weird wonky timed 3rd party titles such as quantum break/rottr which was not that big yet microsoft tried to make them so.

xbox one's start was miserable. it only recently started to pick the pace with game pass / fh 4 / one x / ecosystem stuff and so on.

compared to that; series generation started pretty great. solid and succesful games in fh 5 / halo infinite.flight sim is its own thing.

clearly, you can argue that ps5 will eventually find the same magic ps4 found after couple of years, but this time, they have a serious competition unlike xbox one generation...

while sony prepares those games, 20+ xbox studios will also prepare great many games. bethesda would probably do their best to redeem themselves this time, i have high hopes for an eventual elder scrolls 6, they will get it right, hopefully. and now blizzard/acti joined the discussion, and if microsoft steers them in the right direction, those studios are also capable of producing great games. they might still end up on playstation but if they end up day-one on game pass, that is going to be a huge changer.

i'd actually expect microsoft to steer blizzzard towards producing a high quality narrative driven single-player AAA game. their talents are wasted on endless multiplayer games

 

[Hunnybun]

oh yeah, he definitely comes off as salty. I havent heard a peep from any of the big name directors on twitter. I bet they all see the writing on the wall. This will definitely cut their studio budget and the delays Sony so consistently afforded them. They cannot be happy about this.

Cassandra strikes again.

 

[tommib]

This is what happens when DF stops counting pixels.

 

[Alphagear]

Lmao in what world are you living?

In the real world.

Most of Sonys revenue is coming from Hardware sales and PS Plus being bought by people playing games like COD, GTA and FIFA. Majority of these gamers are casual. Sony first party titles though huge pale in comparison to these games.

Thus games like Socom, Mag and the Getaway should never have been ditched.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

this because all of you wanted to trust that BS gamepass model isn't sustainable. Jim Ryan said that to make their fan base scared about that model and then triumphantly would have repeated what was said left and right by passing the narrative gamepass = bad.
The reality of the facts is instead that gamepass belongs to another 7 million subscribers. Forza h5 has sold millions of copies full price pre-launch and Halo is second just at COD in NDP physical sales.
You will see a 180 when they will release everything day on on their future service

These posts baffle me

You're one of the first ones to jump up and say Sony can't get in a bidding war with Microsoft and yet you go on and on about how Sony needs to get into a content war with Microsoft

Or you know it's losing game for Sony which is why you want them to do it

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

In the real world.

Most of Sonys revenue is coming from Hardware sales and PS Plus being bought by people playing games like COD, GTA and FIFA. Majority of these gamers are casual. Sony first party titles though huge pale in comparison to these games.

Thus games like Socom, Mag and the Getaway should never have been ditched.

Casuals are buying COD because it's COD, not because it's a FPS

Developers and publishers have been trying ro replicate CODs success for over a decade and they've all failed

 

[Alphagear]

Casuals are buying COD because it's COD, not because it's a FPS

Developers and publishers have been trying ro replicate CODs success for over a decade and they've all failed

Who said anything about FPS?

Games like Valorant, Overwatch, Battlefield, PUBG, Fortnite and Rainbow Six to name a few have shown there's still space for Sony having its own Multiplayer shooter.

Socom and Mag had the potential if Sony had stuck with them.

Same applies with The Getaway.

Sony is in dire need to bring back the casuals after this acquisition by Microsoft.

They have nothing except Spiderman.

 

[MonarchJT]

These posts baffle me

You're one of the first ones to jump up and say Sony can't get in a bidding war with Microsoft and yet you go on and on about how Sony needs to get into a content war with Microsoft

Or you know it's losing game for Sony which is why you want them to do it

In my opinion casuals are starting after this holidays sales to know what gamepass is about and this is very dangerous for Sony. Imho a service with all legacy games + psnow + day one new release + third party ala psplus would have content enough to satisfy people that love sony things.

I don't know if sony can compete on content without substantial increasing their first party studios but honestly what else could it do to stay competitive? Other God of war uncharted and Horizon every 3 years at 81 euros each one?

 

[NahaNago]

Nowhere for me since I rarely ever play activision blizzard games or even Bethesda games for that matter. I think before the recent tony hawk and crash game the last blizzard game I had played was either warcraft 3 or that starcraft 2(?) game.

Sony does need to create their own version of gamepass cause I think the word gamepass is going to be mainstream pretty soon when cod comes to gamepass.

 

[Sanepar]

Well, they can try charging that, but people won’t pay it.

It will go up, for sure, but it will have to remain in the ‘subscription range’.

People will pay... just check how prices skyrocketed last year for a lot of stuff and people are paying...

You not gonna have an option. Consumer will need to pay.To recover this 80bn on the next 15-20 years the price of gamepass will rise and it is not gonna be only $5.

 

[Lupin25]

Who said anything about FPS?

Games like Valorant, Overwatch, Battlefield, PUBG, Fortnite and Rainbow Six to name a few have shown there's still space for Sony having its own Multiplayer shooter.

Socom and Mag had the potential if Sony had stuck with them.

Same applies with The Getaway.

Sony is in dire need to bring back the casuals after this acquisition by Microsoft.

They have nothing except Spiderman.

There’s still other third-parties who generate plenty of revenue:

Genshin Impact, FFXIV, Rocket League, Fornite, PUBG, Destiny, GTAO, etc.

There’s many ways you can handle the online space.

In my opinion casuals are starting after this holidays sales to know what gamepass is about and this is very dangerous for Sony. Imho a service with all legacy games + psnow + day one new release + third party ala psplus would have content enough to satisfy people that love sony things.

I don't know if sony can compete on content without substantial increasing their first party studios but honestly what else could it do to stay competitive? Other God of war uncharted and Horizon every 3 years at 81 euros each one?

There’s other games which don’t release on other platforms that can keep PS fed (ala. FFXIV, FFXVI, SOP) filling the void of COD is mostly what needs to be addressed.

Sony is fine though.

 

[Yoboman]

Who said anything about FPS?

Games like Valorant, Overwatch, Battlefield, PUBG, Fortnite and Rainbow Six to name a few have shown there's still space for Sony having its own Multiplayer shooter.

Socom and Mag had the potential if Sony had stuck with them.

Same applies with The Getaway.

Sony is in dire need to bring back the casuals after this acquisition by Microsoft.

They have nothing except Spiderman.

I get where you're going but MAG and SOCOM were trash and the devs had no ability to compete with the best. They released SOCOM 4 in 2011 and it was a complete dumpster fire

The Getaway sold some copies on PS2 but all GTA clones did at the time. It was a critical flop, and London Studios found a lot more success with Eyetoy and Singstar products in that era particularly in the EU. They are also working on the Blood and Truth franchise now which is a sort of spiritual successor for Getaway

And they have God of War, Horizon, TLOU, Ghost of Tsushima, Gran Turismo all out there pushing millions

 

[Ogbert]

People will pay... just check how prices skyrocketed last year for a lot of stuff and people are paying...

You not gonna have an option. Consumer will need to pay.To recover this 80bn on the next 15-20 years the price of gamepass will rise and it is not gonna be only $5.

I suspect we’ll see Gold and Silver Tier Membership and when CoD drops, you’ll have to have the higher level membership.

I can only speak on my behalf but there’s a limit that I’ll spend on monthly subscriptions. I ain’t going to be paying £40 a month for games I don’t own.

 

[Leyasu]

First of all: All of these titles have to release before we talk about lost money Besides that, yes nothing has changed. SONY still owns some of the best-selling IP´s and development studios in the gaming market and SONY still owns the best-selling console and SONY still continues to buy studios just like Microsoft.

Microsoft tried to create its own powerhouse and failed for entire console generations. Now they open up the vault and force their way into the market with overpriced acquisitions.

let's wait and see how this will play out and what strategy will prove to be more successful...

Revenue and everything else comes from having a massive install base. A lot of people will now be factoring in the possibility of COD not being on PlayStation when they upgrade their consoles.

Whether anyone likes it or not, COD is a system seller and losing that will mean lost hardware sales and the lost revenue which comes from people buying into your ecosystem.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

In my opinion casuals are starting after this holidays sales to know what gamepass is about and this is very dangerous for Sony. Imho a service with all legacy games + psnow + day one new release + third party ala psplus would have content enough to satisfy people that love sony things.

I don't know if sony can compete on content without substantial increasing their first party studios but honestly what else could it do to stay competitive? Other God of war uncharted and Horizon every 3 years at 81 euros each one?

Legacy games will only get so many people subbed for so long, after that it's going to be a constnt battle of paying for exclusive day one content just to keep subscribers. They can't rely on FP output either. They're too expensive and take too long to make.

It will financially drain them.

People will pay $70 for content that's compelling will bring people to your platform. Sub services won't just change people's spending habits. They can't copy Nintendo and recycle the same IP over and over, but they've had the most success out of any platform holder in creating new IPs. That's the only route they can take. Aquiring Square Enix, Konami or Capcom for their staple IPs will help too.

 

[MonarchJT]

There’s still other third-parties who generate plenty of revenue:

Genshin Impact, FFXIV, Rocket League, Fornite, PUBG, Destiny, GTAO, etc.

There’s many ways you can handle the online space.



There’s other games which don’t release on other platforms that can keep PS fed (ala. FFXIV, FFXVI, SOP) filling the void of COD is mostly what needs to be addressed.

Sony is fine though.

casuals don't give a fuck about FF cmon now

 

[SkylineRKR]

I always felt bad when I paid for a movie, since I watch it once or twice and stow it away. But I also have this when I buy a game. Most games I buy I beat over a week and never boot up again. I either resell them, trade them or give them away. Therefore I think a gaming sub is excellent. I like Gamepass a lot. But it doesn't have everything, ofcourse. I will buy Horizon 2, beat it over a month and then never replay it. 80 bucks. I beat FH5 and Halo Infinite through GP, and sometimes play their MP (halo's was free anyway). But not all games have (meaningful) MP.

What I'm trying to say is, I buy Sony games since there is no way to play them via sub. I don't buy MS games since I just sub in that case.

But I do juggle subs. I am not always subbed to Netflix since its 15 bucks a month. After wrapping up Cobra Kai and some other stuff I didn't find anything I need to watch right now so I ended it. Amazon I do keep since its 2,99 a month but I don't take the expansion subs. Disney I sometimes quit too. I also have PS+ and GP running. And Spotify.

 

[Yoboman]

casuals don't give a fuck about FF cmon now

FFXIV has an estimated 36 million subscribers and 3.5 million players a day

 

[Max Payne’s Baretta]

FFXIV has an estimated 36 million subscribers and 3.5 million players a day

The mainline game isn’t doing these #s not the same. The core games aren’t popular.

 

[Alphagear]

I get where you're going but MAG and SOCOM were trash and the devs had no ability to compete with the best. They released SOCOM 4 in 2011 and it was a complete dumpster fire

The Getaway sold some copies on PS2 but all GTA clones did at the time. It was a critical flop, and London Studios found a lot more success with Eyetoy and Singstar products in that era particularly in the EU. They are also working on the Blood and Truth franchise now which is a sort of spiritual successor for Getaway

And they have God of War, Horizon, TLOU, Ghost of Tsushima, Gran Turismo all out there pushing millions

Trash maybe but I believe if Sony persisted with them they would have several competent IPs for the casuals. I refuse to believe Sony provided developers the same resources to these games as their single player titles.

My only point is Sony is big enough to have every corner of the market covered. Sony will take a hit losing COD and will take another hit if Take 2 is acquired by losing GTA.

Only realistic option is making their own titles which can at least compete with these games.

 

[MonarchJT]

FFXIV has an estimated 36 million subscribers and 3.5 million players a day

and i doubt a very minority part play it from the West

 

[GHG]

Or you know it's losing game for Sony which is why you want them to do it

That's exactly it. Phil Spencer and Microsoft also know it which is why they're applying pressure via the press to get PlayStation to become heavily involved in subscriptions on a similar level. There's a reason you don't see Microsoft's lackeys in the press talking about Nintendo needing some sort of gamepass competitor (they know Nintendo don't give a shit and won't play ball), all while there's a lazer focus level of obsession with what playstation is and isn't doing with subscriptions and PC ports.

If your competitor is playing a different game there is no clear path to victory. Hence they want (and need) Sony to play their game. Jim Ryan and his dumbass has done nothing but play right into their hands since he became CEO.

If PlayStation decide to pivot their business, revamp PS Now and make it their focus going forwards then the strategy for Microsoft becomes even more simple - offer 3rd parties more money for content acquisition, buy more publishers/studios/developers, keep gamepass dirt cheap and extinguish Sony through financial attrition.

The fact that people have been unable to see this up until now baffles me. We've seen this exact thing play out in other industries already.

 

[assurdum]

All said, it's hilarious how company considered shitty and the evil for years until this announcement, it's became so precious under the MS umbrella. Kinda of curious where the COD sales will lead after half of their userbase is gone.

 

[tommib]

Who said anything about FPS?

Games like Valorant, Overwatch, Battlefield, PUBG, Fortnite and Rainbow Six to name a few have shown there's still space for Sony having its own Multiplayer shooter.

Socom and Mag had the potential if Sony had stuck with them.

Same applies with The Getaway.

Sony is in dire need to bring back the casuals after this acquisition by Microsoft.

They have nothing except Spiderman.

kyliethicc please explain to this person what other MEGATON IP Sony is sleeping on. Thanks.

 

[PlaystationFan5349]

Calm ye. Microsoft will treat most of these franchises like Minecraft and keep them available to all, especially Call of Duty.

I actually think the opposite, you don’t spend 70 billion to keep everything as is. They need to push their games so they will make everything exclusive just like with the Bethesda purchase.

One game I could see them keeping multiplat would be CoD. I just don’t see Call of duty as an exclusive game, the game just doesn’t have the power to pull it. CoD it’s about playing with your friends, making it exclusive will effectively kill half the player base and would be the final blow the franchise needs.

I would love them to try though lmao, just to see the meltdowns but for me CoD doesn’t work as an exclusive. Single player games yes, of course, but huge multiplayer games with a huge da base across every platform no way.

Though just imagining the thought of them going full crazy and actually make it exclusive just to try to destroy PlayStation would be amazing

 

[Alphagear]

All said, it's hilarious how company considered shitty and the evil for years until thus announcement, now because MS acquired them, it's became a death sentence for Sony.

Not a death sentence but a body blow with the loss of COD. Will affect hardware sales and PS Plus sales maybe by 10-15 million considering the average COD game sells 30 million. Half on PS consoles.

Haven't touched a COD game since MW2 on PS3 but the case is different with casual gamers who make the majority of gamers and continue to buy it though the series has become stale long ago.

The rest of ABs library doesn't really affect Sony.

 

[tommib]

I actually think the opposite, you don’t spend 70 billion to keep everything as is. They need to push their games so they will make everything exclusive just like with the Bethesda purchase.

One game I could see them keeping multiplat would be CoD. I just don’t see Call of duty as an exclusive game, the game just doesn’t have the power to pull it. CoD it’s about playing with your friends, making it exclusive will effectively kill half the player base and would be the final blow the franchise needs.

I would love them to try though lmao, just to see the meltdowns but for me CoD doesn’t work as an exclusive. Single player games yes, of course, but huge multiplayer games with a huge da base across every platform no way.

Though just imagining the thought of them going full crazy and actually make it exclusive just to try to destroy PlayStation would be amazing

I hope you get crabs this week.

 

[PlaystationFan5349]

Too vague.

Could just mean they'll continue to support games that are already available like Warzone.

They mention cloud gaming before that sentence, so if they counting supporting those communities im pretty sure they mean by making gamepass available to them lol.

 

[SkylineRKR]

The mainline game isn’t doing these #s not the same. The core games aren’t popular.

XIV is a core game, but its an MMO.

XV sold like 10 million, and its a piece of shit.

VII is part 1 of a remake and sold like 10 mil. Its been on a single system for a long time.

I think FF is vaguely popular. Maybe not GTA or Fortnite popular, but popular.

 

[PlaystationFan5349]

I hope you get crabs this week.

Why so serious? It’s not about the money. Some people just like to watch the world burn.

 

[Yoboman]

and i doubt a very minority part play it from the West

Its regularly among most played games on Steam

 

[Alphagear]

kyliethicc please explain to this person what other MEGATON IP Sony is sleeping on. Thanks.

If Sony had put the same effort on these titles as their single player titles you would have Megaton IPs.

But no, Sony thought the likes of COD will be their forever rather than focus of making our own IPs and not rely on a third party.

 

[assurdum]

Not a death sentence but a body blow with the loss of COD. Will affect hardware sales and PS Plus sales maybe by 10-15 million considering the average COD game sells 30 million. Half on PS consoles.

Haven't touched a COD game since MW2 on PS3 but the case is different with casual gamers who make the majority of gamers and continue to buy it though the series has become stale long ago.

The rest of ABs library doesn't really affect Sony.

Lol no. It won't happen anything to playstation sales, believe me. Look at the Nintendo Switch. COD will be replaced with other IP as many others.

 

[DonJorginho]

ay DonJorginho can you find and post that GIF of Kanye dancing with the MJ crying head photoshopped over it?

Anything for you bud.

 

[PlaystationFan5349]

If Sony had put the same effort on these titles as their single player titles you would have Megaton IPs.

But no, Sony thought the likes of COD will be their forever rather than focus of making our own IPs and not rely on a third party.

Hey, now let’s see what Sony can do by their own. People critics Nintendo all the time because of the games not taking into account that the fucking third parties didn’t help at all. Now let’s see what they think about Sony when activision goes, it’s not so easy is it?

 

[Orpheum]

I'll head to my living room and play some Returnal. Then i'll play some hollow knight, then i'll wait for elden ring, then i'll play Horizon FW, then i'll wait for fuck knows what.

Ah yes i know. I'll wait for a goddamn bloodborne PS5 patch and GoW Ragnarök. Maybe i'll also get me some Dying Light 2

shame i don't get to play Diablo 4 right off the bat, but i'll see where all of this leads. And if Microsofts output warrants it, i'll just buy an Xbox.

 

[PlaystationFan5349]

Lol no. It won't happen anything to playstation sales, believe me. Look at the Nintendo Switch. COD will be replaced with other IP as many others.

Are you actually comparing Nintendo games to Sony games? Nintendo is completely on another level.

 

[Alphagear]

Lol no. It won't happen anything to playstation sales, believe me. Look at Nintendo Switch.

Nintendo are not reliant on COD or any third party titles. Their first party sell their hardware alone.

Sony on the other hand does get affected if they lose COD.

 

[assurdum]

I'll head to my living room and play some Returnal. Then i'll play some hollow knight, then i'll wait for elden ring, then i'll play Horizon FW, then i'll wait for fuck knows what.

Ah yes i know. I'll wait for a goddamn bloodborne PS5 patch and GoW Ragnarök. Maybe i'll also get me some Dying Light 2

shame i don't get to play Diablo 4 right off the bat, but i'll see where all of this leads. And if Microsofts output warrants it, i'll just buy an Xbox.

 

[PlaystationFan5349]

Lol I’m gonna need to change my name to Xbox fan now.

 

[assurdum]

Nintendo are not reliant on COD or any third party titles. Their first party sell their hardware alone.

Sony on the other hand does get affected if they lose COD.

COD it's reliant to playstation hardware but playstation hardware can survive without it, you will see. It's incredible how hysterical can become some people after such news

 

[tommib]

I'll head to my living room and play some Returnal. Then i'll play some hollow knight, then i'll wait for elden ring, then i'll play Horizon FW, then i'll wait for fuck knows what.

Ah yes i know. I'll wait for a goddamn bloodborne PS5 patch and GoW Ragnarök. Maybe i'll also get me some Dying Light 2

shame i don't get to play Diablo 4 right off the bat, but i'll see where all of this leads. And if Microsofts output warrants it, i'll just buy an Xbox.

 

[GHG]

and i doubt a very minority part play it from the West

Here:

American Final Fantasy XIV realms​

Realm Name	Total Population	Active Population
Adamantoise	87,824	11,149
Balmung	97,551	12,727
Behemoth	106,351	12,890
Brynhildr	110,141	10,805
Cactuar	92,198	13,433
Coeurl	97,965	10,315
Diabolos	114,071	10,464
Excalibur	83,904	12,835
Exodus	109,468	11,295
Faerie	100,211	11,874
Famfrit	112,546	10,905
Gilgamesh	94,531	14,547
Goblin	101,282	10,122
Hyperion	82,954	12,025
Jenova	93,276	11,698
Lamia	104,563	10,938
Leviathan	97,820	13,868
Malboro	114,208	9,926
Mateus	102,827	11,033
Midgardsormr	90,908	11,437
Sargatanas	91,011	12,208
Siren	97,898	10,504
Ultros	95,931	12,052
Zalera	98,570	10,430

Japanese Final Fantasy XIV realms​

Realm Name	Total Population	Active Population
Aegis	41,521	7,103
Alexander	40,262	7,390
Anima	40,230	7,593
Asura	41,267	7,734
Atomos	41,428	6,894
Bahamut	48,467	8,006
Belias	40,284	7,467
Carbuncle	45,454	7,760
Chocobo	50,482	9,235
Durandal	38,832	6,887
Fenrir	39,175	7,239
Garuda	40,305	7,874
Gungnir	40,828	6,968
Hades	43,203	7,781
Ifrit	40,802	7,174
Ixion	41,988	7,459
Kujata	48,171	7,797
Mandragora	46,292	7,804
Masamune	46,450	7,582
Pandaemonium	45,578	7,262
Ramuh	40,716	7,206
Ridill	41,205	7,340
Shinryu	45,147	8,167
Tiamat	36,581	7,000
Titan	43,028	7,985
Tonberry	77,266	12,274
Typhon	46,922	7,233
Ultima	42,209	7,018
Unicorn	41,660	6,792
Valefor	40,409	6,776
Yojimbo	40,124	6,775
Zeromus	39,244	6,654

European Final Fantasy XIV realms​

Realm Name	Total Population	Active Population
Cerberus	111,680	12,465
Lich	127,747	10,421
Louisoix	74,763	8,835
Moogle	112,905	11,859
Odin	108,769	11,921
Omega	73,075	9,873
Phoienx	115,422	11,120
Ragnarok	98,414	13,229
Shiva	112,101	11,669
Spriggan	30,781	6,765
Twintania	30,975	6,927
Zodiark	115,527	10,597

All Final Fantasy XIV server populations (January 2024)

There could be bonuses in store if the right server is chosen.

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[Three]

This may sound crazy, but imo Sony may need to go back to their roots. The one advantage Sony and Nintendo still has is Japanese games, niche or quirky stuff do not sell well on XBOX. It’s really working for Nintendo and gives them an identity and advantage. Maybe it will work for Sony as well.

I don't think a Western dev studio being bought is best answered by making more Japanese games. The audience don't cross over that much and if they could expand the audience with Japanese quirky games there is no reason why they wouldn't have already.

 

[DonJorginho]

Had a nightmare last night that Jimbo decides the best response strategy is to offer a megaton of cash to buy Ubisoft.