ManaByte
Gold Member
Correction, Marvel gave Insomniac Spider-Man (and Wolverine). Sony only owns the film rights.
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Correction, Marvel gave Insomniac Spider-Man (and Wolverine). Sony only owns the film rights.
Hitchyhero
Banned
Bathesda really was a great purchase compared to this. I'm sure Destiny games has great revenue as a GAAS, but in terms of IPs, studios, and games.... Bathesda was such a better buy.
SkylineRKR
Member
Destiny is trash but it has potential. The lore is awesome. And I loved the MP during year one, with ups and downs due to nerfs. But it was my most played PvP on PS4 for about a year.
I hope there will one day be a Destiny that has a single player structure like Halo 3 or something, with optional drop in drop out co-op as well. Perhaps with some actual space travel. Add in the PvP from D1 and there is a good game on paper. They could expand on guardians like the wielder of The Last Word, that was one of the lore pieces that interested me the most back then.
I hope there will one day be a Destiny that has a single player structure like Halo 3 or something, with optional drop in drop out co-op as well. Perhaps with some actual space travel. Add in the PvP from D1 and there is a good game on paper. They could expand on guardians like the wielder of The Last Word, that was one of the lore pieces that interested me the most back then.
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
You can do it through debt, stocks or just their cash flow. If they absolutely wanted to, yes they could.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
They have been for 20 years and largely winning. Even dominating for many years. I don't understand this statement.
octiny
Banned
I mean, imagine say, having a discussion with Bungie for ~$3B and they want to remain independent, publishing capabilities, multi platform etc.
Like a date with ex that wanted to see new opportunities, meet new peoples, be fucked by Kotick in the ass, but now she wants back. She was supposed to become a big success without you. She was hot when you met her, but now she comes back like this..
“Got mo money hoNey?! I promise I’ll stay this time..”
Now you spot in the restaurant, this girl you’ve been dreaming of nailing since high school, since around the same time you met Bungie, but that chick went on to become beloved by pretty much everyone everywhere she goes, just never super sellers in a tough business that is going “live service”, too old school.
She’s learned so many tricks with other studios, that you know in bed she’ll deliver a fan fucking tastic experience. She has heavy hitters that even 10 years later she’s still selling, even on fucking toasters. She’s fucking hot and is asking only double what you just discussed with Bungie. She had a bad adventure with Fallout 76, has a few quirks/jank here and there, but otherwise she’s perfect.
Microsoft be like,
Well played sir, well played.
Agreed 100%, quirks & all.
ethomaz
Banned
Well they were not owned from these ones... they can't rebel anymore.
Fbh
Member
Well Bungie isn't the same as Insomniac.
Bungie literally has 1 game they are actively supporting at the moment, which is an ongoing online only GaaS that a lot of people also play on Xbox and PC.
So it makes sense to release a statement reassuring the players of their one game on all platforms that it's not going anywhere and that future content won't be Sony exclusive.
Also, given how they parted ways with Microsoft and then later with Activision it's clear they like to have their independence. So I wouldn't be surprised if maintaining full creative control and continue to be self published was a key part of the deal.
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Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
I thought that years ago, but then they made Destiny.
Zannegan
Member
Thia is probably a good strategic move, but, just speaking personally, Destiny was such a disappointment that it doesn't really move the needle for me. The tiny environments and stale loop just don't grab me at all.
On the other hand, the gunplay in Destiny proves that the studio has a good game in them, somewhere. Maybe we'll get a new IP that's more my speed. Here's hoping.
3.6 billion seems like a lot compared to the value for money with the Bethesda acquisition. Compared to the Activision buyout it's more or less on par though. It's all worth it for the delicious irony of seeing the creators of Halo, owned by Sony. I could never have believed it during the 360 era.
On the other hand, the gunplay in Destiny proves that the studio has a good game in them, somewhere. Maybe we'll get a new IP that's more my speed. Here's hoping.
3.6 billion seems like a lot compared to the value for money with the Bethesda acquisition. Compared to the Activision buyout it's more or less on par though. It's all worth it for the delicious irony of seeing the creators of Halo, owned by Sony. I could never have believed it during the 360 era.
Lol, come on man. Phil was practically begging for that girl to come back saying how "he's changed".I mean, imagine say, having a discussion with Bungie for ~$3B and they want to remain independent, publishing capabilities, multi platform etc.
Like a date with ex that wanted to see new opportunities, meet new peoples, be fucked by Kotick in the ass, but now she wants back. She was supposed to become a big success without you. She was hot when you met her, but now she comes back like this..
“Got mo money hoNey?! I promise I’ll stay this time..”
Now you spot in the restaurant, this girl you’ve been dreaming of nailing since high school, since around the same time you met Bungie, but that chick went on to become beloved by pretty much everyone everywhere she goes, just never super sellers in a tough business that is going “live service”, too old school.
She’s learned so many tricks with other studios, that you know in bed she’ll deliver a fan fucking tastic experience. She has heavy hitters that even 10 years later she’s still selling, even on fucking toasters. She’s fucking hot and is asking only double what you just discussed with Bungie. She had a bad adventure with Fallout 76, has a few quirks/jank here and there, but otherwise she’s perfect.
Microsoft be like,
Now his comments and Bungie's departure from activision make sense.
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Kokoloko85
Member
Hopefully those days arent gone lol. Maybe they are, maybe not.
We’ll see in the next 2 years i guess.
The Miyazaki PS5 exclusive has been rumoured for awhile. Persona 6 is rumoured and also having final fantasy 16 exclusive for the first time since the ps2 means they are making some effort lol
Oddvintagechap
Member
What are you talking about.
Take-Two Interactive to buy FarmVille creator Zynga for $12.7 billion
Take-Two Interactive says it is buying mobile gaming company Zynga for $12.7 billion with a mix of cash and stock.
www.cnbc.com
this is what also ps users don't get ....Ms with cod and all the others and now Sony with Bungie don't buy exclusivity (just) that they may or may not implement. But also special contents, optimization, release ahead of time, etc. etc. surely from now on the PC or xbox (but I think only the Xbox ones) they will be second-class citizens compared to Sony users on Destiny. Same thing will happen at best for Cod and PlayStation users.
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Jaybe
Member
Bungie was brilliant in going after creating their own IP and getting out from Activision.
Not a bad get by Sony. Shores up a weakness and gives them one of the most engaged with GaaS games. Good subscription booster. It’s unlikely, but Could be used to help keep COD on PS via a mutual agreement.
Not a bad get by Sony. Shores up a weakness and gives them one of the most engaged with GaaS games. Good subscription booster. It’s unlikely, but Could be used to help keep COD on PS via a mutual agreement.
Lognor
Banned
Well you see, Sony has a long storied history with Bungie dating all the way back to Destiny. Sony doesn't just buy other developers without having a long history together. See Insomniac, Naughty Dog, Housemarque, etc. This makes perfect sense and completely in line with their prior acquisitions. Some could argue that Destiny guy was the Sony mascot, much like Crash Bandicoot.
ManaByte
Gold Member
When Sony buys Take Two. That's who owns the Oni and Myth IPs.
Negotiator101
Member
Absolutely agree, this looks like a crazy good deal for Bungie and a terrible one for Sony. Sony really didn't need this and they don't even get exclusive games for the foreseeable future.
skit_data
Member
It is also a juggernaut to tame and maintain on top, especially now when their internal culture will demand great attention and have the medias eyes fixated on them.
I am not fully convinced MS will be able to change work culture and maintain their output, it is a huge task, but we’ll see. At least now there’s a chance for positive change.
ethomaz
Banned
Destiny is what increased their value.
Is people really thinking Destiny and Destiny 2 (that I don't like) did any bad? They were massive successful.
Even today you see high playing activity in Destiny 2.
It has daily activity of over 750k players.
Which other FPS has that in the industry?
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Ezquimacore
Banned
That's some fantasy shit, reality is tencent owns 49% of epic games, if one company was going to own the other 51% of epic that company is going to be Tencent and not Sony, they don't have "cash in hand" for that kind is acquisition.
ZehDon
Member
Yes, because for 20 years Microsoft has been spending USD$77 billion dollars a year acquiring multiple publishers and the biggest games in the entire world, cornering the FPS, RPG, and Strategy game markets almost entirely. Not a single thing has changed in the last twelve months to alter the gaming landscape, that might require Sony to respond in ways it hasn't before, or to make games to replace the biggest titles on its platform that it will no longer have access to due to these shifts. Nope - nothing like that has happened, it's just business as usual
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Destiny’s revenue is 2bn a year? That does seem pretty good tbh. I had no idea it was still that big. I wonder how profitable They are. I remember they were quite open on how terrible their engine is for creating content. I don’t think that ever got fixed.
pls don't restart with this trash (fanboy at this point) bs. Sony can't buy a company for 50b
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lastmessiah
Member
Destiny is a pretty big deal. Lots of people still play it. NeoGAF thinks it is the authority on this stuff for some reason, even though it seems most here only play single player games (and think of themselves as "hardcore" lmao) and have no idea where the money actually comes from in this business. In reality, multiplayer is what matters.
Andodalf
Banned
Bungie wouldn’t have sold if they were going to make the games exclusive
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
Once again they don't need "cash on hand"
Companies can get the funds for whatever the hell they want within reason. They're not limited to whatever cash they actually have in the bank. Far from it.
Do you think you need $300,000 in your bank to buy a $300,000 house too?
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Oh okay. I forgot Sony is doomed. Let's revisit this in a year and see how it turns out. lmao.Yes, because for 20 years Microsoft has been spending USD$77 billion dollars a year acquiring multiple publishers and the biggest games in the entire world, cornering the FPS, RPG, and Strategy game markets almost entirely. Not a single thing has changed in the last twelve months to alter the gaming landscape, that might require Sony to respond in ways it hasn't before, or to make games to replace the biggest titles on its platform that it will no longer have access to due to these shifts. Nope - nothing like that has happened, it's just business as usual
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Because he always claims to have known things after they are announced. What's the point other than to blow smoke up his own ass?
Ass of Can Whooping
Gold Member
I think we've already established you haven't got a clue what you're talking about
Get back to the circus flipper boy
Ezquimacore
Banned
Sony to MS
Kdad
Member
Oh...that's right it was Bungie West or something not Bungie...Ok, Take Two next then lol...
Ezquimacore
Banned
They really think Sony can afford to do that, and outsell Tencent too.
LordBlodgett
Member
September 2020?
Inviusx
Member
Citation needed.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Comes down to GAAS. And by the sounds of it Destiny is still making good coin in DLC and mtx.
In that list of Japanese company market cap where there's a bunch at under $5B, they are well known companies with a ton of franchises and games they pump out every year. But Sony probably analyzed the numbers and they'd rather take a Destiny focused studio with GAAS over Sega or whichever studio in the same ballpark price that is ore traditional in revenue (copies sold) with little mtx and probably a ton more employees.
Sony also needs a shooter since their in house teams havent made a shooter since Shadowfall, so when Destiny 3 releases at some point, there's their tried and true exclusive shooter. Destiny 2 is PRed as legacy multiplatform, but I dont think it says anything about their other secret IPs or Destiny 3.
Oddvintagechap
Member
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Bungie gets $100 million investment from Chinese gaming company NetEase
Expanding beyond Destiny to ‘build new worlds’
www.theverge.com
Netease making a quick super return.
ManaByte
Gold Member
This goes against what Bungie said today (and their new game isn't Destiny 3).
tmlDan
Member
yes, these deals take 6 months to a year or more to complete, that was only a year and a few months ago.
Fully engaged
Banned
The fact Sony bought Bungie shows signs of desperation.. it is like the last song of the night at a club and everyone else went home.
Kokoloko85
Member
With MS buying 3rd party IP’s and publishers, I think Playstation needs to aswel. Not what I wanted Playstation to do but with MS buying loads, they are kinda forced to. But buying Bungie wouldnt be my first choice, as they lack IPs. Bungie does fill in the 1st person shooter studio needed though.
I was happy with Playstation just creating IP’s with studios they work with exclusively for a long time and then purchasing them. Like working with Naughty Dog exclusively for awhile before buying them. But now I think its more important for them to buy a publisher with familiar playstation 3rd Party IP’s before MS does. Be awful if GTA6 or 7 etc wont be on the PS6 as they have always been on the Playstation since GTA1.