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The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom – Mr. Aonuma Gameplay Demonstration
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
ultrazilla
Gold Member
Terribly underwhelmed. 
This looks like an expansion to the first game. Also, the game being shown on such old hardware, I think it lacks that "wow" factor. It looks washed out and boring.
Nintendo should have released this with new hardware. Sigh.
This looks like an expansion to the first game. Also, the game being shown on such old hardware, I think it lacks that "wow" factor. It looks washed out and boring.
Nintendo should have released this with new hardware. Sigh.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Because it looks exactly like a game from 2017 in 2023.
Not everyone is willing to give Nintendo a pass regardless of what they do.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
So is this a true sequel, or an addition to? Like a GOTY version with expansion included?
SpiceRacz
Member
Well, no shit. It's 6 year old hardware. Did you expect a graphical leap?
ShadyAcshuns
Member
You mean like quick resume?
Davevil
Member
Especially if they charge you 70 euros
brian0057
Banned
Those two things are not mutually exclusive.On the one hand I really liked what I saw.
The fuse ability looks awesome and seems like it has the potential for a lot of fun interactivity and experimentation, not to mention puzzles. I really like elements like this that make the world feel more interactive and fun to explore, THIS is the sort of stuff I want to see more in open world games rather than the same old static worlds but with better graphics.
While I'm not thrilled to see the weapon breaking return, at least this time around the focus seems on creating weapons on the spot with things you find around the world. IMO that will make weapon durability less annoying than having to go out of your way to find cool weapon only to have them break after 2 fights.
On the other hand it still just looks like BOTW with some new tools and abilities. I'm seeing none of the changes and improvements I wanted from a sequel like proper dungeons, more rewarding exploration, cool boss fights, better side quests, a better loot system, more varied shrines, etc
So durability is great because "it forces you to adapt" but the game also throws an ocean of weapons at you so you don't really have to adapt.
Also I never got why people talk as if the weapons in BOTW were like Nioh or Monster Hunter with completely different skill trees and vastly different move sets depending on the weapon type. The combat in BOTW largely stays the same regardless of which weapon you are using, it's just that some deal more damage.
The game forces you to learn how to use every type of weapon because that "ocean" is random and you won't know what type of weapon you're gonna come across next. So you become familiar with all of them and then won't feel out of place when you find a spear instead of a sword or an axe because you know how to use them all.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Many developers manage to achieve substantial visual improvements later in a console's lifetime.
Apparently, this doesn't apply to Nintendo.
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ShadyAcshuns
Member
We get it, you care greatly about graphics. I hope you have a very expensive PC bruh.
Stafford
Member
The new features seem cool. Although I do wonder if that Ascent feature isn't gonna take away stuff like needing enough stamina to climb a mountain, since you can just go right through it. Of course not every mountain will have a opening like a cave but still.
And that bit with the water, come on now, as if Link couldn't swim that short bit? And I don't necessarily like how those items (like those fans for the raft) were conveniently on the ground. The fuse feature is really cool.
But I can't be the only one noticing the rough visuals? I know it's Switch, but those shadows, everything was so grainy, aliased, and resolution wise didn't seem sharp at all. I could swear the latest Xenoblade looks more crisp and clean.
Jesus we need new hardware man.
And that bit with the water, come on now, as if Link couldn't swim that short bit? And I don't necessarily like how those items (like those fans for the raft) were conveniently on the ground. The fuse feature is really cool.
But I can't be the only one noticing the rough visuals? I know it's Switch, but those shadows, everything was so grainy, aliased, and resolution wise didn't seem sharp at all. I could swear the latest Xenoblade looks more crisp and clean.
Jesus we need new hardware man.
Balducci30
Member
Don’t really get the dlc claims - seems like they really put effort into the sandbox nature of the whole thing and took the systems to a whole new level
Davevil
Member
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
I do. I love it.
I care about everything about something I might buy. I don't especially feel the need to find excuses for a large corporation charging $70 for a game when that game has aspects that are evidently sub-par, and not by a small margin. Why do you?
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GymWolf
Member
They would probably break after 3 sex encounters.I feed on the tears of the people shitting on weapon durability, it gives me life.
Grow a pair.
Punished Miku
Member
Finally got to watch it. Definitely intriguing. I'm sold.
Graphics and art assets are massively reused. But the potential for new gameplay elements more than makes up for it. Being able to make a mushroom shield or homing arrow sounds great. I think its just going to feel like non stop discovery the whole game. I'm in.
Graphics and art assets are massively reused. But the potential for new gameplay elements more than makes up for it. Being able to make a mushroom shield or homing arrow sounds great. I think its just going to feel like non stop discovery the whole game. I'm in.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Maybe I care for other aspects of gaming. Problem? Nothing wrong in caring about graphics, but don't push your values on others and I'll try to do the same.
SpiceRacz
Member
They sure did a "next-gen" price leap though.
To be fair, you could say everything has taken a price leap in the past few years.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Do you require my approval to enjoy the game?
Graphics and gameplay are not in conflict. One can have both especially when budgets aren't lacking.
What we're seeing here is a developer obviously resting on their laurels. It's fine if you think that's ok. I don't.
Totally unimpressed.
Graphically, it's the same game, and this is a huge disappointment for me since I believe Switch can do better and Switch did and do better than this. It's not about the same style, it's litterally the same assets. Lazy devs.
The new abilities... well, maybe there is more behind it, but for now it's more like a hack than new abilities created around the game. BotW 1.2.
The problem with the new abilities is the game won't force you to use it like BotW, where you already had liberty to fight using physics, but for most of the time you simply don't care and use normal techniques instead and it's the same. I want to see if TotK will force you to invent new way and new objects to move on into the game.
I would not pay 70$ for this.
Graphically, it's the same game, and this is a huge disappointment for me since I believe Switch can do better and Switch did and do better than this. It's not about the same style, it's litterally the same assets. Lazy devs.
The new abilities... well, maybe there is more behind it, but for now it's more like a hack than new abilities created around the game. BotW 1.2.
The problem with the new abilities is the game won't force you to use it like BotW, where you already had liberty to fight using physics, but for most of the time you simply don't care and use normal techniques instead and it's the same. I want to see if TotK will force you to invent new way and new objects to move on into the game.
I would not pay 70$ for this.
Punished Miku
Member
I still think this is the Zelda b-team. We're not waiting 6 years for the next one on switch 2.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 looks like it was made 6 years after this. No joke.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
You defend Scam Citizen. You have no room to complain about TotK.
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Unless one is gaming on PC, you can't really have both apparently, as we still have to substitute fps for resolution and so on, even with the biggest games on PS5/XSX.
Abriael_GN
RSI Employee of the Year
Xenoblade Chronicles 3 has great gameplay, and it doesn't look like crap from 2017.
Star Citizen has more gameplay freedom and depth than any Zelda game will ever have even in alpha, and doesn't look like a rotten potato developed by an indie team of 10 people.
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jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
It looks serviceable, but I'm not blown away by what they've shown. They're obviously riding on the coat tails of BotW's runaway success. It's not like the Zelda series is a stranger to reusing assets. Lots of people claimed that Majora's Mask was just a reskin of Ocarina of Time. From the outset it kinda looked that way, but in the end it became its own thing, just like I'm sure this will.
LectureMaster
Member
Already looks more fun than all the open world games released this year. I am so pumped!
ShadyAcshuns
Member
And yet there are still people who say XC3 looks like shit. Can't please everyone.
The first game wasn't exactly pretty either. This one might be a tad bit better looking.
_g h 0 s t
Neo Member
canceled my preorder. going to get FF pixel remaster for ps5 instead.
Stop. Of course it could work, it would just take more effort to make it work. There was nothing stopping them from gating tools behind shrines that required tools to obtain them, or designing a world that had SOME progression in terms of utility. Instead they went with "That's too much juice for the squeeze, so lets just front load what you get in the beginning and we'll pretend it was our intent all along."
And hey, maybe it was, but the idea that the "immersive" gameplay of BOTW couldn't have worked hewing closer to the series roots is just ridiculous.
Reused world, no change to any of the gameplay systems fans decided didn't work, ZERO iteration of the games tech or visual identity. . .all of that you can gleam from this presentation (not sure where you are getting that this is a "trailer").
fallingdove
Member
Is this the first confirmation that weapon durability is back?
nkarafo
Member
I don't think this game's or BOTW's bigger issue was the hardware. Like i said in a previous post, these latest Zelda games look washed out. There's a lack of color and contrast, despite the game being cartoony.
I mean Μetroid Prime Remastered looked great on the hardware. Mario Kart 8 still looks amazing. And did anyone ever complained about the Link's Awaking Remake graphics? All these games look great, despite the weak hardware.
It's just the dull colors. I don't know why they made it so washed out.
Imtjnotu
Member
SpiceRacz
Member
Bro you haven't even played the game yet.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
My god you are such a clown XD
I hope you are paid well for your blatant shilling. Either that or really like getting pegged by the company.
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Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
Nah, most of GAF doesn't give a shit about graphics. Its just the handful of PC clowns and console warriors. Some have legitimate issues with the game which is perfectly fine.
BbMajor7th
Gold Member
It's funny, in the DF review of XC3, John noted that Monolith were rumoured to be supporting with engineering on TotK and he speculated that it would lead to improved IQ for the final game. Looks like that was maybe a bit optimistic.
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GymWolf
Member
And as usual you complain about people complaining about graphic even if they are complaining for so much more other than just graphic, it's nice to have some sense of continuity here on gaf
DKPOWPOW
Member
I have to say, this was the coolest part of the entire showcase.
Hardensoul
Gold Member
Just as video says just combat show case. No story spoilers!