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Microsoft / Activision deal prevented to protect innovation and choice in cloud gaming
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Banjo64
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Fantastic post.
DJ12
Member
Rofl.
Samsung name is as strong if not stronger than Microsoft for producing tech, like they'd need to buy damaged goods to get going if they wanted.
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ShaiKhulud1989
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My god, the sheer hubris. If anything, these statements will only push UK/EU to double down on big tech crackdown and to block this particular deal.
Good job, Mr Smith! Now, Satya, could you please unplug Brad's mic to save any future prospects for MS in the region?
John Wick
Member
You being dense on purpose?
Clearly it's bad for gamers that the biggest 3rd party publisher becomes first party for MS. Nothing is lost if they stay 3rd party.
John Wick
Member
Aww what's stopping MS from buying studios? They have bought plenty and a big Publisher/studios with Bethesda. Why don't they buy new start ups like Sony has recently?
Astray
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Selling more consoles is the primary means of growing your platform in the console business.
DJ12
Member
Its a veiled threat to the EU to fall into line. EU are probably not going to block it now. It's dead anyway.
And let's not forget the former ms guy now working for the EU.
Schmendrick
Member
You being dense on purpose?
Clearly it doesn`t matter because no one can force you to buy anything and companies grow and shrink depending on consumer choices/spending.
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Mibu no ookami
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Why would they buy Xbox for 10-15 billion dollars without the studios behind Xbox?
What does the Xbox brand give Amazon or Samsung that they can’t create for themselves?
GHG
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Bringing up the EU commission because they've somehow convinced them to take on the person they've had working on the deal? Coincidence I think not. These guys are rotten.
They lack introspection so much that it's funny. It's this kind of stance and these kinds of statements that are the reason they failed to appropriately address the CMA and their concerns.
He comes across as a spoilt brat that's been told no for the very first time in his life.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
As I have said on several occasions, Brad Smith is everything Xbox gamers have claimed Jim Ryan is.Jim RyanBrad Smith is desperate and should move on
Zok310
Banned
This guy is a sore loser. Loses a bet on a $69 billion deal to a whole country and like a man child he reverts to talking about the uk’s cyber security and how crucial ms is to uk residents and businesses(a position they are in due to ms monopoly on os)?
MS sounds like a fucking terrorist organization in this response, basically got on tv to tell the uk, “give us what we want or we will destroy you”
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Yoboman
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Wonder if Brad Smith is still carrying that contract in his pocket
GHG
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Brad and Lulu's statements are an absolute disgrace by the way. Threatening and mocking the British public regarding poverty and economic prospects, all because you failed in getting your multi-million dollor bonuses for a deal which's value outstrips the annual GDP of many a nation?
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Dick Jones
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Leave Brad Smith alone.
OCP have signed a 10 year agreement with Microsoft. On firing days, we can borrow Sting. Great news for all.
Thirty7ven
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Hope the EC kicks them in the teeth and then FTC spits on their forehead.
They deserve to get their asses handed to them hard. Microsoft is run by scumbags who deserve embarrassment.
ShaiKhulud1989
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I mean, we're not asking him to start talking nonsense. Only to stop.
PropellerEar
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Jimbo: "If thats a contract in your pocket? GTFO" ... "or are you just happy to receive well oiled weiner from me?"
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ulantan
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This shit will be studied for yearsBrad and Lulu's statements are an absolute disgrace by the way. Threatening and mocking the British public regarding poverty and economic prospects, all because you failed in getting your multi-million dollor bonuses for a deal which's value outstrips the annual GDP of many a nation?
IlGialloMondadori
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Dick Jones
Gold Member
Sting rewording his song to "It's Probably You" when handing out the pink slipsSting getting ready to hand out the pink slips.
Victor Omega
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Power of the cloud
Panajev2001a
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Depending on the day they dress themselves as the poor bullied generous child and if they do not get what they want how they want they turn to cartoon villain mode… “we have peace a chancel was another gem MS uttered during this kind of ordeal…
oldergamer
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You realize the cma blocked a 70 billion dollar deal over their definition of cloud gaming being its own market instead of just another way to sell access to games?
First, mobile is the driving factor in cloud gaming imo. Downloading portions of games as you play. Isnt that far away from streaming. U still install parts but I think exclusion android and iOS gaming from it might be a mistake. Also an expert they had said it's not its own market.
Second, blocking a 70 billion dollar deal for a market that will take multiple years to reach 1 billion globally simply doesn't make sense. There is next to no appetite to have cloud gaming exist or be paid for on its own. It's simply too small .
Third, how do you get innovation in cloud gaming when there is a limited amount of methods for delivery. Without a delivery method, that market doesn't exist. The content on cloud gaming is the same content you get everywhere else for download or retail. Where is innovation going to come from without expensive infrastructure ??? It all doesn't make a lot of sense.
Cloud gaming is already proving to be a supplemental market. Not a separate one.
First, mobile is the driving factor in cloud gaming imo. Downloading portions of games as you play. Isnt that far away from streaming. U still install parts but I think exclusion android and iOS gaming from it might be a mistake. Also an expert they had said it's not its own market.
Second, blocking a 70 billion dollar deal for a market that will take multiple years to reach 1 billion globally simply doesn't make sense. There is next to no appetite to have cloud gaming exist or be paid for on its own. It's simply too small .
Third, how do you get innovation in cloud gaming when there is a limited amount of methods for delivery. Without a delivery method, that market doesn't exist. The content on cloud gaming is the same content you get everywhere else for download or retail. Where is innovation going to come from without expensive infrastructure ??? It all doesn't make a lot of sense.
Cloud gaming is already proving to be a supplemental market. Not a separate one.
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Thirty7ven
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Their little minions going around in forums and Twitter calling for them to exit the UK has been eye opening. Hipsterism is a disease. Their politics shifting on a dime for this company? What the hell is going on man?
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
It is better to prevent a potential monopoly than to try and remedy an existing one. For once, CMA showed the understanding and wisdom that is unexpected from a governing body, to be honest.
Media and even corporations are highliting the short-term, it is an obligation for a body like CMA to think on a decades scale. Maybe cloud will work out, maybe not, but either way the market will be healthy enough to grow organically.
KaiserBecks
Member
That’s a good idea actually. That way I’d at least have some credibility unlike my fellow armchair investors here.
If I was you I'd buy shares in Microsoft so you can have a say when the rest of the shareholders decide to ditch it.
LordCBH
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It’s kind of amazing how many bootlickers Microsoft has when they’ve demonstrated in multiple markets over 30 years that they don’t care about their consumer base.
Nicktendo86
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My it will never happen but absolute dream scenario is they do it, get forced to sell their UK studios, Nintendo gobble up rare for a bargain basement price and we get banjo 3.
Badlucktroll
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Sony didn’t fight the Zenimax buyout and fight to get Starfield on Playstation, but they fought the AB buyout because its actually something big and significant. Alot of Microsoft’s pr makes you want to be like 
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Dick Jones
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If Nintendo buy Rare they will have the rights to Donkey Kong.
Mr Moose
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yazenov
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Because unit sales are currently the one and only metric for success in the console space, and no amount of dismissing or PR talk will change this fact. MS themselves admitted the importance of console sales to increase subscriber growth of Gamepass, and its growth has stunted as the result of low demand for their consoles.
Increased console sales lead to software sales, subscription growth, revue, and profit. It is the barometer for success unless you or MS can prove otherwise. Given the lack of details MS provides with Gamepass profits and userbase, I'd presume even MS agrees with this.
The cloud or Netflix of gaming may be the future, but not in this current climate. We're talking about the current market.
Skifi28
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I hear even making a Call of Duty competitor is quite easy. They should get started on that.
Dick Jones
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T minus 10 years
Topher
Gold Member
Cloud game streaming absolutely is its own market just as cloud itself is its own market. Even Microsoft has recognized that fact.
Streamed games are not downloaded/installed even partially. The game runs entirely on the remote computer and images are transmitted to the device. This is why input latency is an issue. This is not like locally installed Android/iOS games at all.
Microsoft not buying Activision does not limited "methods of delivery" whatsoever.
You mean like sega and the dreamcast. They produced great game after great game. But couldn't over come the mindshare of Sony. It will take more than great games to defeat that mindshare. Nintendo produces great games but had to leave the high performance console market because of Sony mindshare.
ulantan
Member
No the wii U happened
Thirty7ven
Banned
But Microsoft isn’t Sega so your point is moot.
Phil has come out and said Xbox doesn’t need ABK, the division makes more revenue than Nintendo, hell gamepass makes money for them.
So what exactly are you saying here?
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Microsoft/Xbox are not going to leave the UK. If for no other reason than it would be prohibitively expensive even for them, to disentangle themselves away from one of their biggest markets. The legalities and trade implications would be huge.
Like it or not, despite Brexit, the UK is still a very major economic power, and any global corporation could not easily alter their trade practises just for one nation.
Bragr
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I've been had because they are offering games on a subscription service?
Do you also believe they are gonna raise the price to something ungodly later on?
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