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ROG Ally….did it bomba?
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Twice the price of the Deck and windows bloat, no quick resume etc. Yeah, I can see why.
£300 vs nearly the price of a great pre build in the UK. What’s the market for it?
diffusionx
Gold Member
It’s a pretty niche product. I would imagine that the Deck is going to continue to sell significantly more and get more attention. ASUS, more like MEH-SUS amirite
Fart Knight
Al Pachinko, Konami President
U n i o n 0015
Member
I think the hands-on previews killed a lot of the early buzz it had. And realistically, there's no way ASUS has the manpower to support the software updates necessary to keep up with the experience Valve and their software engineering teams provide with the Steam Deck.
Shifty1897
Member
It's cool but yeah there's a mainstream price ceiling for these devices and the Deck is pushing it, let alone the Ally.
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March Climber
Member
Phil Spencer stated that he likes the ROG Ally but at the same time admits that Windows needs to make improvements on their mobile OS side.
Steam Deck has the actual benefit of being what is essentially a console, which includes it's OS.
Bruno_Arrais85
Member
Another "Steam Deck Killer" DoA
Sleepwalker
Member
I was gonna buy one but then I took a windows to the knee.
Kdad
Member
March Climber
Member
...were you guys expecting like gamestop lines or something? Lol.
GHG
Member
Asus + Windows + poor battery life + they overhyped the performance.
It's a niche of a niche product for those who want the best possible handheld performance and are willing to put up with the quirks.
If you care about overall user experience the best bang for buck is the steam deck and it's still the best overall option out there.
It's a niche of a niche product for those who want the best possible handheld performance and are willing to put up with the quirks.
If you care about overall user experience the best bang for buck is the steam deck and it's still the best overall option out there.
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radewagon
Member
I think that the problem is that the market is fairly limited for such a product. The niche for those that want something more powerful than a Switch but don't want a laptop is probably really small. The market that was there happily bought a Steamdeck (myself included 
) and doesn't see a need to upgrade it yet. I'm perfectly happy to wait for a possible Steamdeck 2 or at least something that offers a better potential experience than a Windows handheld.
) and doesn't see a need to upgrade it yet. I'm perfectly happy to wait for a possible Steamdeck 2 or at least something that offers a better potential experience than a Windows handheld.alphachino
Member
I've already got the Steam Deck, GPD Win 4 and Odin Pro as my premium Linux/Windows/Android handheld gaming combo. Gonna require way more than what they showed to get me to upgrade any of those right now.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
How is the Odin Pro? I love my Steam Deck but I kinda want a good handheld just for emulators. I have a bunch of chinese handhelds like Retroid 2 and an Anbernic, they’re cool but I’d like a bigger screen.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
If this would have come out before the Deck, I'd be all over it. As it is, the Deck knocked it out of the park (and the Ally doesn't seem like that big of an upgrade for the price). Windows is a massive downer.
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
Because windows + Asus software = 
DaGwaphics
Member
They made a mistake releasing it before that major driver update. The performance vs. the SD at 15w improved a great deal, but most of the reviews were done and those the most keen for a portable handheld device probably saw the early performance previews. That will be an issue.
It does do a better job than the deck on heavy titles, that should give it a niche.
It does do a better job than the deck on heavy titles, that should give it a niche.
Codes 208
Member
The hands on reviews killed it for me. Too expensive for a slightly better steam deck (in terms of game performance, but the battery life took a major hit and its slower due to good ol’ windows bloat)
At this point id rather just wait for another proprietary handheld from sony or even ms
(Nintendo too, but thats a given)
At this point id rather just wait for another proprietary handheld from sony or even ms
(Nintendo too, but thats a given)
CobraAB
Member
I pre-ordered and it was ready for pick up this morning but just went online about 2 hours ago and cancelled the order.
Will hold off and get more impressions. May just do a 64 GB Steam Deck instead. At the 15W, the Deck is really AT LEAST as good it seems like. Yeh, you can go higher on the Ally but at a cost of battery life of course. Screen is certainly better on the Ally though.
Will hold off and get more impressions. May just do a 64 GB Steam Deck instead. At the 15W, the Deck is really AT LEAST as good it seems like. Yeh, you can go higher on the Ally but at a cost of battery life of course. Screen is certainly better on the Ally though.
grfunkulus
Banned
Keep up is all relative. In terms of the windows based pc market, it's right up there. A few good updates according to Russ from Retro Game Core who I trust more than all the mainstream sites
Sleepwalker
Member
One of the biggest problems so far with it is that it has around a 20% deadzone on they joysticks by default, even when you set it to 0. There's a huge thread on reddit about it
8BiTw0LF
Banned
Power of Linux?
Little Chicken
Member
The Ally has had a number of updates since then which have improved performance.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
it's hilarious how ASUS tried to market Windows and full game compatibility as a selling point when all it did was turn people away from the device and keep Steam Deck relevant. You'd think the opposite since "Deck is so finnicky and Windows just works" but apparently it was the opposite and people just know better these days. Now if only people applied that mentality to their home computers instead of just handhelds....
Not to mention the piss poor battery life in part due to the useless 1080p 120hz screen (you do NOT need that on a handheld), overpowered chip that takes away more in battery life than it gives in performance, the bloated OS and the terrible drivers. Lack of the Deck's touchpads and gyro (there is a gyroscope in the handheld, but none of the software can use it?!?!?) making only platformers, fighting games, racing games, and melee action games tolerable on the thing
So until someone recognizes the value of the software + hardware + price combination Valve engineered with the Steam Deck, these overpriced big "MORE POWERFUL THAN THE DECK" handhelds will continue to flounder. Only company that seems to get it is AYN who's doing their own thing of making a smaller handheld at a similar price to the Deck.
Not to mention the piss poor battery life in part due to the useless 1080p 120hz screen (you do NOT need that on a handheld), overpowered chip that takes away more in battery life than it gives in performance, the bloated OS and the terrible drivers. Lack of the Deck's touchpads and gyro (there is a gyroscope in the handheld, but none of the software can use it?!?!?) making only platformers, fighting games, racing games, and melee action games tolerable on the thing
So until someone recognizes the value of the software + hardware + price combination Valve engineered with the Steam Deck, these overpriced big "MORE POWERFUL THAN THE DECK" handhelds will continue to flounder. Only company that seems to get it is AYN who's doing their own thing of making a smaller handheld at a similar price to the Deck.
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Ceadeus
Gold Member
I'm hyped. Just waiting for my pre order to hit the door.
I'll be playing Halo MCC and Battlefield. I'll install Diablo 4 too. Really excited, I love Asus product. My current computer is the Zephyrus Rog G14 and armoury crate is a real nice addition where I can chose between different profile depending on my preference. It's something Steam Deck does not have.
I really do like the steam deck though. It only needed the extra horse power the Ally has.
I'll be playing Halo MCC and Battlefield. I'll install Diablo 4 too. Really excited, I love Asus product. My current computer is the Zephyrus Rog G14 and armoury crate is a real nice addition where I can chose between different profile depending on my preference. It's something Steam Deck does not have.
I really do like the steam deck though. It only needed the extra horse power the Ally has.
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Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
Slapped a 2tb drive in it and restored the image using their bios tools then installed Diablo 4.
So far it runs D4 great and without "hoops" I cannot do the same on the Deck.
*not the 2tb drive part...the steam deck has one of those as well. I just mean the non-steam games involves "hoops".
So far it runs D4 great and without "hoops" I cannot do the same on the Deck.
*not the 2tb drive part...the steam deck has one of those as well. I just mean the non-steam games involves "hoops".
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Torrent of Pork
Banned
I'm probably one of the rare unicorns whom this product actually speaks to. Mine arrived on the 11th, but I haven't had time to fuck with it more than setting it up, and logging into my MS and Steam account.
Don't have a PC, and has been a console gamer my entire life.
Love the Switch, and its portability.
Wants to get into PC gaming, and is willing to settle for 1080/60 low for modern games that don't hit the Xbox.
Already a GPU subscriber, so it needs to run PC Gamepass natively.
The $800 ASUS external GPU will bring it up to a 1440/60 machine for when it's docked to my TV, and for $1500 total it's only a few hundred more than a prebuilt rig with the same capability.
Don't have a PC, and has been a console gamer my entire life.
Love the Switch, and its portability.
Wants to get into PC gaming, and is willing to settle for 1080/60 low for modern games that don't hit the Xbox.
Already a GPU subscriber, so it needs to run PC Gamepass natively.
The $800 ASUS external GPU will bring it up to a 1440/60 machine for when it's docked to my TV, and for $1500 total it's only a few hundred more than a prebuilt rig with the same capability.
diffusionx
Gold Member
I think it speaks to a lot of people, we just bought Steam Decks already, and Valve has really not given us any reasons to look elsewhere.
Sleepwalker
Member
I saw them run D4 at 70-80fps on their launch stream, looked good!
Torrent of Pork
Banned
Yeah, if you already have a Deck I don't see a justification for the Ally unless you absolutely need to play GP natively, or play something like Destiny 2.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
in the case of the latter, it'd be bad to buy a windows based handheld since you're just reinforcing Bungie/Epic/Activision's stubbornness when it comes to these things
The more people who buy decks and garner a linux gaming audience the better. if it gets big enough they'll be forced to respond
grfunkulus
Banned
I mean, you CAN do that but if the experience is worth enough to you, you'll pony up. I bought an AMD CPU when Ryzen 2000x launched. It didn't run destiny. Was I supposed to sit around for the months upon months (or more) it took to fix it? And then have an inferior performing product. I got burned twice when I bought a cheap, open box 6800 gpu to use in my egpu setup (mainly for destiny 2). Turns out the game ran like dog shit since the launch of those cards. And very much aware and still no fix. Thought it was the thunderbolt bandwidth issue but nope, bought a dog of an Nvidia card that on paper should've been much worse and it maintained 60-100fps at 1600p high vs the wild swings of the AMD from sub 30 to 100+
Same thing with Intel ARC mobile graphics. A370M should be competitive with the 3050 (or at least 1650) but despite tons of patches, it cant run some old games like the master chief collection better than integrated graphics
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64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
..... that's cool, but we're talking about gaming handhelds here.
Also, both the Ally and Deck use AMD powered hardware, infact the entire PC handheld gaming space is powered by AMD so uh..... yeah good luck finding one that's right for you lol
Torrent of Pork
Banned
As an old Ubuntu user I concur with making Linux more popular. Nothing generates innovation more than competition, and MS needs a boot in the ass if they're ever going to improve Windows.