DenchDeckard
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Love mine :/
No real issues.
No real issues.
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Kadve
Member
Very different thing. GPD makes no secret that their Windows Palmtops are for a niche audience and not a competitor to stuff like the Steam Deck (in fact they are directly comparing the WIN 3 to tablets, not game consoles on their website). They are priced accordingly and very much successful in said niche.
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Chiggs
Member
Or 120Hz being absolutely pointless as you can't run any modern game at such framerates and then even faster draining the battery.
I mean, all that better reasons than RGB which can be turned off
Not if the controls stop functioning in Armory Crate.
Oh, and I've had this thing for a whopping 6 hours. Excuse-moi for only discovering the tip of the iceberg.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/excusez-moi
Silver Wattle
Gold Member
Setsuna Mudou
Member
6h sounds a bit too early to be that sour about it. Any time you start messing with Bios it's a cointoss if you'll start running into issues.
Did you get an official approved Bios or you're just winging it at this point?
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I want to disagree and I do, but your avatar mesmerises me every time
. Could be a good new look for Todd .
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I want to go on the merry round and crap on windows as well but as far as desktop goes, absolutely no problems. Like on these dedicated handhelds, valve is the only one that really has a grass on how to do anything properly. And the bad part is for the other competitors, maybe they're working on something to run on these handhelds and if anybody would be the one to have something ready you would think it'd be Microsoft, but they are lacking. Lacking. If they made something specific and tweaked just for portables like this, we might not be having as much of this discussion. Or we would also be having the discussion and just calling Microsoft out for being incompetent and not being able to make a more compact windows experience.
But you have to give steam a lot of credit because much like desktop, they've done so much for the portable handheld space. And people are probably just waiting for steam to release their installable operating system, but that just is a fix for a problem that none of the other ones are willing or have been able to fix. In a way, I commend valve but in another way I would rather them keep their operating system just on the steam deck and let the others put in the work. Clearly valve has.
Bernardougf
Gold Member
And people still try to convince me that PC is as plug and play as consoles ... SureJan.gif
GHG
Member
This is not normal.
I didn't even know there were 500 games on the windows store.
Why are you purchasing them there when it's always the most expensive place to buy PC games and it has some of the worst DRM on the platform?
Klosshufvud
Member
Another A1 Pro brother! It's a marvelous handheld in so many ways. I jump from Chivalry 2 to Wreckfest to MHW to Octopath 2 all in one session and I have to pinch myself at times realizing this level of handheld gameplay is now possible. And yes, the performance gap is huge once you take advantage of the 15-20W power span. It's smaller than Deck yet houses a way bigger battery and fans. It's a no-bullshit kind of deal.
The SDOLED is great in many ways but primarily for those solely using Steam launcher and SP games at that.
Dr.D00p
Gold Member
At nearly twice the price, I'd hope so.
Setsuna Mudou
Member
N1tr0sOx1d3
Given another chance
Didn’t know this. Thanks for the heads-up. I assumed rightly or wrongly that only games fully compatible could be visible/played.
Thaedolus
Gold Member
Fair enough if you’re trying to play games on those services; I’ve just stuck with Steam games and emulators and it’s been smooth as hell for me. I do wish it had VRR and, well, now there’s an OLED but I have the glare reduction first gen model and it’s good enough. Battery life has never been an issue for me, the longest I’ve played in a day was most of a 9hr road trip where I wasn’t driving and the car had an AC plug so eh.
Oh and another thing that just works: cloud saves, and streaming from PC. I went back and forth between my Deck and PC all the time playing Persona 5. The slow slice of life sections are great chillin in bed, but sometimes the dungeon crawling sections or whatever were more fun on the big screen. Zero issues swapping back and forth, almost as smooth as just docking your Switch
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
VRR will be nice to have in the new model, the real next gen Steam Deck 2, but HDR + OLED and the ability to change the refresh rate of the panel (and many other options) per game (per game profiles are super easy to set) and put a frame rate limiter helps a lot (achieving 80% or more of the results of true VRR for people). OLED and HDR (I also have the anti glare first generation model I look to now sell, having received the 512 GB OLED version because although well implemented the anti glare process does mute colours noticeably) were the two biggest thing I wanted out of the Steam Deck: having the unit lighter and with longer battery life + additional performance + joystick and touchpad improvements are a nice and welcome boost (screen at up to 90 Hz is also welcomed
).I tried Steam large player mode or whatever the desktop mode is called and well, no, it is not quite the experience you get on the Game Mode Steam Deck UI and how it integrates with the Deck’s own overlay system. Steam Deck makes a lot of what is normally painful (Windows gaming has a lot of opportunities and people developing utilities for it sure, but lots of headaches too… let’s not talk about Linux desktop gaming or implementing customisable control schemes, per game profiles, per game performance customisations, etc…) easier and accessible. The 16:10 aspect ratio is great to maximise compatibility and the 800p display resolution (especially if the game has good AA) ensures you are not wasting performance and it helps compatibility of older titles. HDR should allow for some nice custom CRT filters too.
As more games implement LFC (or they figure out a solid system level version of it) then the usefulness of VRR will truly shine on portable consoles (it helps address the issues with OLED displays and VRR with regards to brightness / gamma fluctuations when you drive the panel at low refresh rates). With LFC as long as you can keep framerate at or above 24 FPS you are effectively golden.
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Tams
Member
Windows isn't great on such a small screen, but you can get used to it (I used an 8" Windows tablet for years) and there's always stuff like Steam Big Picture.
I use a GPD Win Max 2 now. It is hit or miss. It does what it needs to do very well. It's just some of the extras over the competition... like OCuLink and the second USB C port... don't work properly on mine. And getting it swapped is nigh on impossible.
I use a GPD Win Max 2 now. It is hit or miss. It does what it needs to do very well. It's just some of the extras over the competition... like OCuLink and the second USB C port... don't work properly on mine. And getting it swapped is nigh on impossible.
Chiggs
Member
Official bios. It has gotten better. Those first hours, though. Sheesh.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
Granted, that is a pain in the arse
StereoVsn
Member
Yeah, not the biggest fan of Windows on a handheld but haven’t had these issues at all.
I recommend resetting the device and reloading the image which you can do through the BIOS directly which is very handy.
graywolf323
Member
why not just use EmuDeckGranted, that is a pain in the arse
Configure your SteamOS, Steam Deck and Rog Ally Emulators
Configure your SteamOS, Steam Deck and Rog Ally Emulators
www.emudeck.com
Agreed, but enabling proton experimental or hitting up ProtonDB will usually result in a quick fix.
Im also using Decky to run plugins like ProtonDB Badges so that the link to ProtonDB for a title is right on the game page. Makes it very convenient to find fixes or quality of life enhancements at a moments notice.
phant0m
Member
Cool, my recommendation was for OP’s situation.
I also think you’ll find yourself in the severe minority here.
Schmendrick
Member
Sounds like a defective unit.
Building from scratch and setting up a complete desktop system costs me less time than what OP has described...
Building from scratch and setting up a complete desktop system costs me less time than what OP has described...
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
I do personallywhy not just use EmuDeck
Mr Hyde
Member
I've had a ton of issues with the ROG Ally, but it's been mostly when in tandem with the XG Mobile dock I have hooked in. Very glitchy and unreliable, although most of the issues seems to have been sorted out by Asus now thanks to a series of updates. Now it's a pretty stable setup but the first 6 months were rough. I even had to send the Ally and XG back to Asus for repair because the dock nearly bricked my Ally. It was a faulty unit. As a standalone handheld device though, I think ROG is pretty good but the lack of battery life, sleep mode and general ease of use have made it so I have it permanently docked. If I want to play handheld I use my Switch, it's far more convenient and has a nicer screen and better battery life. I don't think I will ever purchase anything from Asus again, just too much headaches for a pretty steep price.
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TrebleShot
Member
Complete on agree with OP
Had my ally since launch, took it on a few trips and it’s absolutely crap , exactly as you say constant constant bullshit tinkering the complete antithesis of a handheld.
I had a SD prior and now an OLED it didn’t take long to go back to the deck and despite it being weaker it’s just better in every way.
These handheld PC that run windows are absolutely awful , the experience is crap there’s no two ways about it.
Wish Linux on PC was more widely supported for games with anti cheat etc.
Had my ally since launch, took it on a few trips and it’s absolutely crap , exactly as you say constant constant bullshit tinkering the complete antithesis of a handheld.
I had a SD prior and now an OLED it didn’t take long to go back to the deck and despite it being weaker it’s just better in every way.
These handheld PC that run windows are absolutely awful , the experience is crap there’s no two ways about it.
Wish Linux on PC was more widely supported for games with anti cheat etc.
lordrand11
Member
I wouldn't quantify the Deck and Rog as *real* PC gaming and more of a niche handheld PC sector, they're fun devices (at least the Deck is LOL). Most PC games generally tend to just work straight outta the cloud with hardly any finagling unless you're planning on running Linux only on your machine. Add to that the ease of graphics optimization through Nvidia Geforce Experience and it's become a much different and easy landscape than it was in yesteryear.
Cloud saves just work on Ally, btw. I play a game there, quit game, and can go pick it up on my desktop PC a second later. I found there to be no noticeable difference between Deck and PC/Ally in this regard.
Actually, my favorite feature of the Ally is using Hibernate. For example, I turned off my Ally in the middle of playing Yakuza Zero a few days ago, by tapping the power button. Several days later, I turn on my Ally, it takes under 10 seconds to quick boot right back into the game, - battery still at 100%, - there’s zero “standby” drain unlike a Switch or Deck in sleep mode. Just fantastic.
Valve has done a tremendous job with the Steam Deck, and the OLED looks fantastic, but once the Ally is set up, you really can boot straight into Big Picture mode in Steam, and it feels nigh identical to the Deck, with all the additional benefits (twice the resolution, 120hz VRR, and no standby drain when having to shut down in the middle of a session).
It makes me look forward to the next Deck. I hope Valve can put in a proper powerful APU, and also higher res with VRR.
hououinkyouma00
Member
I returned mine after a single day.
Hot as fuck all the time, bumpers are trash, and overall I just wasn't satisfied with it.
Hot as fuck all the time, bumpers are trash, and overall I just wasn't satisfied with it.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Armory Crate on the Ally isn't as bad as being forced to Armory Crate trough a Asus motherboard. It's actually quite useful.
And after getting past the initial update and download setup on the Ally, I really started to enjoy the device. The screen is much better than the old Steam Deck, and it's more powerful than the OLED Steam Deck. But I wish third party manufacturers like Lenovo and Asus were able to adopt Steam OS for handheld devices.
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bender
What time is it?
Sometimes. My past week has been this:
-Pnumbra crashing just past the intro. There are workarounds but it comes at the expense of lighting which is really important in the game.
-Manhunt crashing during the tutorial. Haven't tried the workaround for this on ProtonDB but it is a bit of a hassle.
-Enclave not launching. Switching to an older version of Proton fixed this.
The point of contention is that "it just works" for the Deck. You can often tinker to success but not always (see above of Virtua Tennis 4) but the Deck experience is far from pickup and play, especially for legacy titles.
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Reallink
Member
Ally is a full fledge Windows PC and requires much of the same setup and troubleshooting issues you'll run into with any new laptop or desktop. A little less actually, cause it has far less bloatware than most oem systems. It's not a console experience (neither is Deck), and you should at least have a basic understanding of managing a gaming PC and Windows optimization, which OP clearly doesn't.
For starters you shouldn't be bitlocking/encrypting a portable gaming device or signing into a system wide Onedrive bloated Microsoft account in the first place, and shouldn't be storing sensitive shit on it to need such. Make a local account without any sort of login password or pin, then it'll launch straight to desktop/armorycrate/bigpicture everytime. In the 1 in a million chances it gets lost or stolen, just change your game store/launcher passwords.
For starters you shouldn't be bitlocking/encrypting a portable gaming device or signing into a system wide Onedrive bloated Microsoft account in the first place, and shouldn't be storing sensitive shit on it to need such. Make a local account without any sort of login password or pin, then it'll launch straight to desktop/armorycrate/bigpicture everytime. In the 1 in a million chances it gets lost or stolen, just change your game store/launcher passwords.
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Chiggs
Member
ROG Ally all boxed up and ready for its big return to Best Buy. Luckily, my family didn't take it too hard when I asked for the gift receipt.
In its place arrive two contenders later this week:
In its place arrive two contenders later this week:
- 1 TB OLED Steam Deck
- 1 TB Legion Go
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PsyEd
Member
I had it....killed 2x SD cards...this is on DAY 1. Was an uphill battle trying to prove that until ppl in reddit and official rog forum also started complaining. Before that I was just a "shill". Then finally I got approved for RMA and the replacement device...I said to the company doing it in aus to test it themselves before sending it and I'm happy with an open box.
The next day I got full refund....so yeah that was my "experience" with it.
The next day I got full refund....so yeah that was my "experience" with it.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Gameboy color, advance, sp, ds, and psp was the true transition to mobile gaming.
I've mainly experienced the reverse where Proton will run old Windows games better than a modern Windows system. The main issues are down to licensed media codecs Valve can't distribute. But install Proton-GE which includes them, and everything plays back without any issues.
FinalBossWithTheMostPower
Member
Been messing with mine all day. The Ally is sick.
Robocop and The Invincible ran amazingly.
All game launchers + emulator beast.
About to start fresh with new SSD install.
Robocop and The Invincible ran amazingly.
All game launchers + emulator beast.
About to start fresh with new SSD install.
phant0m
Member
Smart move.ROG Ally all boxed up and ready for its big return to Best Buy. Luckily, my family didn't take it too hard when I asked for the gift receipt.
In its place arrive two contenders later this week:
The Steam Deck is the keeper for sure, but my curiosity got the better of me with the Legion Go. I won't put up with 10% of the bullshit I did with the ROG Ally before I send it packing, though.
- 1 TB OLED Steam Deck
- 1 TB Legion Go
The Pleasure
Member
Give em theYou know what really chaps my ass? I'm on Best Buy's website right now and I see a TON of open box deals on the ROG Ally, and we both know why that is.
What's ironic is that when I return this one, the lucky SOB who picks it up will get it for $100 off, and all of the hard work will be done.
And yes, on the Steam Deck OLED....I just wish it was sold in retail stores.
Chiggs
and remove all the hard work. Leave a. Txt file that says "this device sucks" and leave them with a dead red pixel.Enviidisnucca
Neo Member
Havent had any issues with mines upgraded my ssd got the dock did all the updates i had to do within the 1st day i got it runs perfect the only back draw from the rog ally is the battery dies quicker than anything else but iam happy with my purchase got xbox game pass get pc games for free
if u know u know lmao iam good to go
coffinbirth
Member
EmuDeck updates have broken multiple emulators multiple times for me, personally. Super annoying if you are wanting to jump into a game only to spend the next 1/2 hour repathing BIOS files and the like. Had my Yuzu saves disappear twice now too. Things have been stable for the last few months, but I always fear it will strike again.
justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
The controller not working aside, explain to me how many times you need to update bios, windows or armory crate? Is this your first time with a PC ever?
If you think doing updates is inexcusable annoying for troubleshooting, setting up VR with the meta quest to work with all the different VR sources will give you a heart attack out of stress.
If you think doing updates is inexcusable annoying for troubleshooting, setting up VR with the meta quest to work with all the different VR sources will give you a heart attack out of stress.
A lot of games on the Microsoft Store are Xbox Play Anywhare enabled, so if they have an Xbox One then it makes sense since they can share the same game between console and PC.
Xbox Play Anywhere titles
StereoVsn
Member
Lenovo is a lot less stable vs Ally. Current Ally software is much better and has a lot less bugs vs Go.ROG Ally all boxed up and ready for its big return to Best Buy. Luckily, my family didn't take it too hard when I asked for the gift receipt.
In its place arrive two contenders later this week:
The Steam Deck is the keeper for sure, but my curiosity got the better of me with the Legion Go. I won't put up with 10% of the bullshit I did with the ROG Ally before I send it packing, though.
- 1 TB OLED Steam Deck
- 1 TB Legion Go
If you thought Ally was bad with variety of issues, good luck with Go lol.
I don’t have many issues at all with the Ally. Do I want OLED and bigger battery - yes. Is that a huge issue at the end - no.
Edit: I did install a 2TB drive into Ally as I didn’t want to chance on SD card issue.
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