HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
In fairness, it was a tiny system seller. Just not the gargantuan NPD/September hit its gaga cheerleaders said/thought it would be.
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Circana (NPD) September 2023: #1 Starfield #2 Mortal Kombat 1 #3 EA FC24; PS5 #1 Units + Revenue, XBS #2 Units + Revenue
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Mr Moose
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They need to stop releasing games in November, that's when Call of Duty comes out.To put things into perspective. Starfield is BGS's first RPG that has topped the Circana/NPD chart, including games which launched on XB/PC/PS at the same time.
This is despite the game launching on game pass.
And to think there were people who called it an "unmitigated flop" a few days back.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
True, probably not a good idea to have two big first party studios compete in the same month.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Starfield is very popular among my steam friends list. I’m surprised it’s #1 considering GP on PC is a way cheaper way to play it but I also bought it on Steam. Happy for Todd and the boys. I loved it but I understand the criticism too.
Mod support probably pushed more people to go with Steam over Windows Store/PC GP.
Luminoth-4545
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Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Um.....appears to be selling pretty well despite gamepass and despite what GaF swore down was an unmitigated flop. 7th in top sales for NDA for a title that just released, wasn't on PlayStation and was day 1 on gamepass?
Psh! You tell me bro...
scarlet0pimp
Member
So true, If i was Microsoft I would have either tried to get Forza ready for when Red fall came out, Redfall in October, Starfield at Christmas with a console bundle. If Forza wasnt ready at the time then they should have kept hold of it and release in Jan or Feb when its quiet. In that scenario all those games could have launched with out any issues. Microsoft would have been taking heat for having no game but they could have maybe spent some money bringing big names to gamepass or getting 6 month exclusive on something.
I hate how everything seems to be packed in to a couple of months at the end of the year and they still launch in poor state needing patches. Spiderman 2 seems to be the exception well timed release and no major patches needed.
Kilau
Member
Seems it was smart to avoid CoD month. Would have to compare sales of Starfield to other Bethesda games to know if it’s a big deal.To put things into perspective. Starfield is BGS's first RPG that has topped the Circana/NPD chart, including games which launched on XB/PC/PS at the same time.
This is despite the game launching on game pass.
And to think there were people who called it an "unmitigated flop" a few days back.
Iced Arcade
Member
Astray
Member
Hardware includes the special Starfield controller and headset btw.
So this increase might not have been all console either.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
If these are accurate, this is much closer than what you'd be led to believe by some posters.
Looks like all of them are doing pretty healthy all round. Xbox got a bump, game pass got a bump, Starfield sold well while also being on GP day 1.
You love to see the industry doing well.
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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Sounds like it did good enough to lead the NPD chart for September, but its future remains uncertain, particularly ww and particularly on Xbox. Not sure if massive is a word I'd use right now.
That said, I'm curious — who called it an "unmitigated flop"?
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
My bad, fam, adam made a little booboo, it was actually - "unmitigated disaster and a complete flop".
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demigod
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PC boxed retail sales also surprised analysts, jumping 57 percent year-over-year. Details on what was driving these numbers were not detailed, but one would imagine that games such as Battlefield 3, Modern Warfare 3, and Skyrim had a lot to do with those surging numbers
Source: GAF Nov 2011 NPD thread.
Research firm NPD brings digital Steam, PlayStation, and Xbox sales to its gaming report
GamesBeat Next unites gaming industry leaders for exceptional content, networking, and deal-making opportunities. Join us on Oct 23-24 in San Francisco. Register Now The gaming industry in the United States is about to open up about some of its most guarded data. The sales-tracking intelligence...
venturebeat.com
Clearly I was talking about pc digital. Who the hell bought skyrim physical pc in 2011? Probably nobody on GAF. Anyways CoD probably did better so it was Oblivion that was #1.
LordBlodgett
Member
Ahh another sales chart for console wars!!!!
This right here is the big win. They honestly have to be pretty happy with their best September in 7-9 years. Did XBox suddenly move to #1 position against Sony? Nope, and it's going to be a while before they do again (if ever). They royally screwed themselves with the XBox One generation, and people aren't going to all of a sudden stop gaming on the console where most of their friends are and just switch from one console to another. Microsoft is going to need to keep up momentum, with 3-4 big games a year to really make non-XBox gamers take a look at their ecosystem. Starfield was a pretty good start though.
Most hardware units sold since Sep 2016, most dollars in nearly a decade.
‘Flop’ indeed
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Yeah, as of right now, I agree that he's wrong.
GHG
Member
yazenov
Member
It completely flopped as a system seller for Xbox. It certainly is not a Zelda or Spiderman.
Did it increase the Steam user base maybe? Congratulations to Valve I guess?
BTW I'm glad that you guys are participating in sales threads again. We didn't see you for a very long time. I hope you stay for next month as well
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MasterCornholio
Member
I would wait until the results are out before calling Spiderman-2 a major system seller. I do expect it to help sell systems though.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Game Pass subs increased
Month of Sep's highest units and dollar sold since 2016 and 2014 respectively.
It's like some posters are a living embodiment of the 'bitch eating crackers' meme.
demigod
Member
600k incoming.
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
The phrase was used plenty of times because the MC didn't get in the 90's. I think it's sitting on an 86 MC right now.
DISCLAIMER:
I hate the use of MC for debates but I didn't have a better example.
yazenov
Member
Game Pass subs increased
Month of Sep's highest units and dollar sold since 2016 and 2014 respectively.
It's like some posters are a living embodiment of the 'bitch eating crackers' meme.
A minor temporary sales bump is expected though. Let's see if the Xbox Series S sustains its sales momentum or falls behind the Xbox One yet again after a temp 1-month bump.
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GHG
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adamsapple
I'm starting to realise why you're making a habit of posting images instead of the tweets themselves when you want to spin up some PR:Also there's this, which Starfield is yet to surpass:
Fallout 4 Ships 12 Million Copies in One Day, Breaks Records
That represents sales in excess of $750 million, Bethesda says; see all the record-breaking numbers here.
www.gamespot.com
graywolf323
Member
really funny seeing you of all people post that gif when you’re a semi-professional spin artist on here
DrFigs
Member
Does anyone think that starfield will be a top 5 game in october? Will it be in the top 10? It's not obvious that this will be the case.So Bethesda's biggest release in decades only slightly boosted the Xbox on its release month ?
Seeing how the game is showing ZERO signs of longevity, the few months shall be very very interesting.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I don't know how that changes much, based on dollar sales only Oblivion was #1. The rest are #2 or worse.
And Oblivion also launched on just PC and Xbox.
So that's the winning combo, I guess ?
Professional, please respect the art.
But I digress, anything I post is backed by a source or something. I haven't posted any made up stuff here.
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Killjoy-NL
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Well yeah, but that's the point he was making: nothing will.
TheGodfather07
Member
XB finally up yoy!... by 12k.
Looks like starfield didn't help xbox gain anything on PS5.
Next chance, 2033 with cod 33 exclusively on xbox!
Looks like starfield didn't help xbox gain anything on PS5.
Next chance, 2033 with cod 33 exclusively on xbox!
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demigod
Member
0 chance at top 5, it’s already fallen off a cliff. Spiderman 2, Alan Wake, Ass Creed, Mario, Lords of the Fallen(yes i went there).
GHG
Member
It's not just dollar sales to factor in, it's the fact that in previous years PC digital has been excluded, which has been the overwhelmingly dominant method of delivery for the platform since ~2010:
NPD: Digital PC Game Sales Outpacing Physical Sales In 2010
The research firm says that more than while more copies of games were downloaded from January through June 2010, physical copies had a greater share of the total revenue.
www.gameinformer.com
NPD only started tracking digital sales on steam in 2016:
Research firm NPD brings digital Steam, PlayStation, and Xbox sales to its gaming report
GamesBeat Next unites gaming industry leaders for exceptional content, networking, and deal-making opportunities. Join us on Oct 23-24 in San Francisco. Register Now The gaming industry in the United States is about to open up about some of its most guarded data. The sales-tracking intelligence...
venturebeat.com
Which, incidentally is after the release of Fallout 4.
And Oblivion also launched on just PC and Xbox.
So that's the winning combo, I guess ?
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mejin
Member
People paid to play Starfield earlier than the official launch and thanks to that the game got the full month of sales.
Steam sales > Xbox sales.
The game is outside the top 20 on steam most played games right now.
Chances are slim to be even a top 10 in october...
SEGAvangelist
Member
Also there's this, which Starfield is yet to surpass:
Fallout 4 Ships 12 Million Copies in One Day, Breaks Records
That represents sales in excess of $750 million, Bethesda says; see all the record-breaking numbers here.
Why on Earth would anyone expect Microsoft to ship 12 million physical copies of any exclusive in the year 2023?
GHG
Member
That's not what's being said, try again.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Sales for the month:
PS5: 480k
XBS: 300k
NSW: 200k
~220k PS5
~180k PS5 SM2
~80k DE
~170k X, ~130k S
PS5 outselling Xbox on its biggest month of the year by basically 200k.
PS5...sold virtually half a MILLION in the USA alone in September without a single game release.
October will be...interesting.
PS5: 480k
XBS: 300k
NSW: 200k
~220k PS5
~180k PS5 SM2
~80k DE
~170k X, ~130k S
PS5 outselling Xbox on its biggest month of the year by basically 200k.
PS5...sold virtually half a MILLION in the USA alone in September without a single game release.
October will be...interesting.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's not just dollar sales to factor in, it's the fact that in previous years PC digital has been excluded, which has been the overwhelmingly dominant method of delivery for the platform since ~2010:
NPD: Digital PC Game Sales Outpacing Physical Sales In 2010
The research firm says that more than while more copies of games were downloaded from January through June 2010, physical copies had a greater share of the total revenue.
But that would also extend to other games on the respective charts, not just BGS's games.
In either case, the one reported thing we can say for sure is that Starfield is a very successful game.
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jm89
Member
This year is more damning though. Below is the gap this year as of septembet 30th. Almost 2 to 1.If these are accurate, this is much closer than what you'd be led to believe by some posters.
Looks like all of them are doing pretty healthy all round. Xbox got a bump, game pass got a bump, Starfield sold well while also being on GP day 1.
You love to see the industry doing well.
TheGodfather07
Member
Everybody knows xbox won't outsell PS5 in total but they cant even manage a single month in their strongest territory with a Bethesda exclusive? It's beyond poor and shows how weak the brand is right now. Only 12k up yoy too in the same month? PS5 did almost 500k before spider-man 2 is even out. October will be a blood bath.
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MirageMew2
Member
I said it sometime ago but Hogwarts could easily be this gen’s GTA V
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Man You PlayStation fanboys take starfield very personally.
Spider-Man will win October and November.. it’s okay
I think it's gonna be hard, it'll be competing against the first party Modern Warfare 3.
Spider Man 2.
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DrFigs
Member
Why are people saying this? I think Mario has a good chance of being October's #1 game. and then probably call of duty. is it like pre-emptive gaslighting.Man You PlayStation fanboys take starfield very personally.
Spider-Man will win October and November.. it’s okay
MisterXDTV
Member
Sony's last quarter of the year will be insane...
Spider-Man 2 + Slim Model + new accessories like Portal and Pulse
MirageMew2
Member
CoD is November but I don’t see MW3 beating last year’s MW2*
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HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
It's always ironic to read who takes what "personally". Just a pointer, if you are saying this, you are feeling this.Man You PlayStation fanboys take starfield very personally.
Spider-Man will win October and November.. it’s okay
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
October - Spider-Man
November - Black Friday + slim model (probably some discounts) meaning a lot of people, specially enthustastics will buy a new version of the console.
December - Christmas
If Sony doesn't reach those 25M sold it will be close. Honestly i can't see the 25M happening at this point but who knows.