same moron, who literally have fits on camera whenever ps5 pro is mentioned, lol
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Digital Foundry: Alan Wake 2 - PlayStation 5 DF Tech Review - Remedy Raises The Bar Yet Again
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same moron, who literally have fits on camera whenever ps5 pro is mentioned, lol
Unless Remedy invents a new AA method,I doubt the pro is going to do much outside of higher fps.
Yeah,I just looked it up. Though the performance isn't playable,I don't really understand why the RX 7600 is about twice as fast here.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
LMAO with my 3080 12GB. S2Rasterization only
Ray-tracing
Path Tracing
Dr.D00p
Member
Thank you Nvidia for the 8GB Vram
Practically every review out there said do not buy the 4060.
If people went ahead and did so anyway, then I say...Fuck 'em, You were warned.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
This is absolutely insane they pulled this off with these visuals. Big praise when praise is do.
//DEVIL//
Member
were you thinking of path tracing or even ray tracing in general when you decided to buy a 3060 ? lolMe and my 3060
winjer
Gold Member
Maybe it's the support for SAM/ReBar.
AMD has been doing this much better than nvidia.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I’ve got to say the game looks amazing. Congrats to Remedy!
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
If you play at 665x373.
Mr Moose
Member
Nope lol budget + enough VRAM, was originally going to go with an AMD GPU but I liked the look of DLSS and the mic background noise stuff.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
1296p reconstructed to 4k.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
I am talking about the gifs. Downsampled everything looks "better".
Kataploom
Gold Member
Seems great over all. It's a shame it's EGS exclusive so I'll wait if I can finally get a console to replay the first one and then 2
This is a game with light/dark concept as graphics, I think HDR would hurt my eyes due to contrast and sudden lights pointing at me in very dark scenes...
This is a game with light/dark concept as graphics, I think HDR would hurt my eyes due to contrast and sudden lights pointing at me in very dark scenes...
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
but thats the whole point of reconstruction. it wont look like 1296p. it will look like 4k. it will only break in motion.
game will probably look better on an oled 4k screen.
i make a lot of gifs from my captures and honestly they look worse than they look on my tv and i mostly play using reconstruction.
thatJohann
Member
I’ll wait for the remastered Switch version down the line.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
IQ is never better on native/reconstruction vs downsampled.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Again proves that rt impact is minimal if raster is done well.
I do hate ssr reflections and I am surprised that quality mode on ps5 doesn’t use at least only rt reflections
Luipadre
Member
It looks awesome in the DF video too
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Terrible choice to bind brightness to peak brightness in 1 slider.
It’s a generic brightness slider that should NOT BE TOUCHED. I advise against blindly following this guy’s advice. He is great but if there is a slider he must move it.
Also one note from me. Maybe the game is like re games. These look better for me if I calibrated with dtm and play with dtm.
Many people say dtm looks worse… yeah because you calibrated console with hgig and then ask dtm to do something.
Dtm work is great if a game or console can output 4k nits like re games or hogwarts. The dtm tech is used for movies to take 4k nits signal and spread its butter on 800nits. Granting more details in highlights… in theory. In reality, it only does that in Re games.
Anyway. Hgig sucks ass for the most part
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
It's easy to do rastered lighting well when you can bake it. In open world games baked lighting looks stupid. I'm playing Red Dead 2 on PC and the baked lighting transitions between the different times of day are jarring and outdated. Or you get baked lighting open world games like Spiderman where the time of day doesn't even change.
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Windom Earle
Member
No Xbox code huh. Looking forward to the real video from Alex.
Doczu
Member
Where are the posters who claimed an 8GB 4060 is a good card and has no VRAM bottleneck?3080 10 GB getting buttfucked by a 3060 due to lack of vram is seriously fucked up. The card is literally $450 cheaper than the $800 3080.
WHERE ARE YOU?!
TVexperto
Member
he pretty much says this about every game every other month
next time somebody says the game is designed to run in 30fps to make it more cinematic i will show him this tweet.
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MikeM
Member
They never admit they are wrong. VRAM FTW!
There’s a reason he says “one of the…” and not “the best”.
And he isn’t wrong. We’ve had Spiderman and Alan Wake 2 back to back, two next gen showcases.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Remastered version?? That’ll be like 2035.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
yes of course.
UC4, tlou2 - great baked light.
But look at horizon2. It also uses baked lighting in an open world game and it's amazing. They are doing like 32 different bakes for each hour or something.
So it's baked... but very smartly so.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Maybe you could make this about some games but this? From the comparison I've seen... all the path tracing 3.5 is just nothing burger.
Comparison shots look largely the same with only clear difference being some too sharp reflections and some shadows.
Not worth it imo.
Was the same with control. The only visible RT setting was reflections and some tin shadows. I played some Control yestereday.... Disabled RT alltogether and it runs 120fps. Looks the same without stupid grainy reflections in every glass pane lol
analog_future
Banned
Looks like I'll be doing maxed out settings, pathtracing ON, 4K / DLSS Quality / Ray Reconstruction / Frame Generation on my 4090.
Should lead to a nice 80-90FPS average.
Should lead to a nice 80-90FPS average.
analog_future
Banned
Yeah I'm going to have to call bullshit right there:
Not to mention the typical 60+fps and sharper, higher resolution rendering that you always get on PC.
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Remedy are gods!
We must protect them at all costs!
We must protect them at all costs!
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I absolutely love your posts when there's a pc game that is leagues ahead of consoles. The shadows, shit everything is just on a whole other level on pc compared to console.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
How is that bullshit ?! How is any of what I said bs?Yeah I'm going to have to call bullshit right there:
Not to mention the typical 60+fps and sharper, higher resolution rendering that you always get on PC.
I said exactly that - that for "oh wow we have FULL PATH TRACING.".. it just reflections and shadows after all.
And these two things alone don't matter that much to me. The raster versions are fine. SSR is never great but whatever. It's just some reflections.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Leagues better?
LEAGUES ?! It' the same damn picture lol. Some good reflections and better shadows pffff.
Even CP2077 PT is not leagues better mate.
You realize I have free will and money to get it on pc? I didn't want to bother with epic store and most of the games look 99% identical on all platforms anyway.
You guys always act like these minor small differences are some huge stuff.
Yeah - of course it would be NICE TO HAVE a bit higher res and reflections. But it's not that crazy better ok? Let's not hyperbolize
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Of course. i am not trying to be mean, sorry... I will continue a bit. Don't take it as an attack.I think it looks drastically better. You are free to your opinion, of course though.
It's just some questionably sharp shadows and questionably sharp reflections IMO not worth their performance as they could be replaced with good raster techniques (not grainy ssr, it's bad I agree)
What about rest of Path Tracing?
No difference here:
But this one really stook out to me. I really dislike when RT does that. No. Realistic lightning is not just "wow lulz man it has to be dark under the table because it's blocking the sun man!"
Cyberpunk does that, metro exodus to some extent and now this in (probably very few) scenes.
Imo this is a reason to TURN OFF GI rt in this game. It should never be this pitch black dark under the table in broad daylight. It is brighter under my desk in my dark room lol.
Unless it's a flaw of the presenttion and it's better with HDR
Esppiral
Member
Console 500€Yeah I'm going to have to call bullshit right there:
Not to mention the typical 60+fps and sharper, higher resolution rendering that you always get on PC.
A PC to run this game at max settings 2500+€
I'll stick to my shitty consoles, thanks.
"patch tracing on PC looks much better, but it doesn't embarrass the consoles"
what does this even mean? are people who use consoles so emotionally fragile that they can't just handle the sentence "PC looks much better" and need it to be softened by "but don't worry, since you live your life through video games and by extension the social hierarchy of what console you own, you don't have to be embarrassed."
what does this even mean? are people who use consoles so emotionally fragile that they can't just handle the sentence "PC looks much better" and need it to be softened by "but don't worry, since you live your life through video games and by extension the social hierarchy of what console you own, you don't have to be embarrassed."
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Windom Earle
Member
AMD take
analog_future
Banned
I don't fault anybody for that. I'm just saying it's kinda silly to say the upgrades w/ the PC version is a "nothing burger".
PS5 looks excellent for a $500 box.
Lysandros
Member
The usual Dictator PCMR/euphoria twitter post. By the way the difference in FPS in the scene shown is ~43% in favor of PC with the unnamed CPU. Calling it "nearly 50%" is an exaggeration. And I very much doubt the average difference is higher than ~20%.