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Marathon rated for PS4 and Xbox One

clarky said:
The visuals are great and the maps are perfect size for the game? Bigger isn't always better. See Highguard.
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No, the visuals are a generation behind - I originally chalked this up to Bungie wanting to keep development costs low for their next GAAS - and the maps are small enough that it's a major point of discussion. You can enjoy the game, but don't pretend Marathon has impressive technology or dense worlds.
 
Miyazaki's Slave said:
This was not a decision made out of fear, panic, etc.

This was a decision that was specficially withheld so people wouldn't lose their shit over a Cross-Gen game given where we are in the current gen life cycle. They didn't want the bad press so they haven't done a press release.

Do people actually think you can "panic publish" a fucking game on two platforms?
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100%

And shame on them for it. Battlefield 6 isn't even getting pushed for shooter of generation at this rate,
 
NickFire said:
100%

And shame on them for it. Battlefield 6 isn't even getting pushed for shooter of generation at this rate,
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BF6 is great but its like a refined version of the game released over 15 years ago, why would it be shooter of the generation?

As far as Marathon goes. Being on ps4/one makes sense as the port is probably just lower settings which will scale fine.
 
Miyazaki's Slave said:
Do people actually think you can "panic publish" a fucking game on two platforms?
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When you do no marketing at all for the plataform you shadowdrop? Yes.

And when doing a demo only on PS5 will help PS4 and Xbox One to be a polish release?

You guys live in a bubble.
 
Fake said:
When you do no marketing at all for the plataform you shadowdrop? Yes.

And when doing a demo only on PS5 will help PS4 and Xbox One to be a polish release?

You guys live in a bubble.
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People seem to think that "any press is good press" is still a valid mantra...it isn't - see HighGuard, Horizon HG, Arkham Knights, Suicide Squad, etc etc etc.
It won't be a shadow drop either...if it IS an actual release and not a misprint, it will be a planned release to coincide with the season 2 release and/or its addition to PS+.

Will see how it washes out in the end.
 
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Had the opportunity to play the beta, could not understand what I was looting, the NPCs bots or whatever were aggressive.
 
Miyazaki's Slave said:
People seem to think that "any press is good press" is still a valid mantra...it isn't - see HighGuard, Horizon HG, Arkham Knights, Suicide Squad, etc etc etc.
It won't be a shadow drop either...if it IS an actual release and not a misprint, it will be a planned release to coincide with the season 2 release and/or its addition to PS+.

Will see how it washes out in the end.
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Where did you find the information about a planned release?
We go trailers after trailers and no one single mention, so far was market as 'next gen', aka 'current gen'.

We only know there is a PS4/Xbox because the ERB rate system give us the information.
 
Guardian Monkey said:
BF6 is great but its like a refined version of the game released over 15 years ago, why would it be shooter of the generation?

As far as Marathon goes. Being on ps4/one makes sense as the port is probably just lower settings which will scale fine.
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I think it's the best one that pushes the current gen consoles hard. I don't believe cross gen games will do that. Just my opinion
 
Miyazaki's Slave said:
People seem to think that "any press is good press" is still a valid mantra...it isn't - see HighGuard, Horizon HG, Arkham Knights, Suicide Squad, etc etc etc.
It won't be a shadow drop either...if it IS an actual release and not a misprint, it will be a planned release to coincide with the season 2 release and/or its addition to PS+.

Will see how it washes out in the end.
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Its not hard at all to think this was originally developed on PS4 to make it being stable/smooth on PS5. Its the same concept from the likes of Layle game where the devs knew that if they could launch on Switch in 60fps they could do the same for all plataforms. The only difference here is that I'm guessing it wasn't intended to launch on PS4, they just used the console as a guinea pig for PS5.
 
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Not great if true. Sea of Thieves has been held back by Xbox one's memory limitations. A lack of cross play while maintaining account progression would be the only way releasing on old consoles makes sense.
 
ZehDon said:
No, the visuals are a generation behind - I originally chalked this up to Bungie wanting to keep development costs low for their next GAAS - and the maps are small enough that it's a major point of discussion. You can enjoy the game, but don't pretend Marathon has impressive technology or dense worlds.
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The graphic and map size aren't a design choice to make sure the game runs on a potato at least i don't think that's the case. There are far far bigger maps available on last gen consoles in similar titles with a more regular graphical style like DMZ /Warzone for example. Maybe its to keep costs down like you say but I see no technical reason the maps couldn't be 5 times larger regardless even if they are aiming to release on last gen as well.
 
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clarky said:
The graphic and map size aren't a design choice to make sure the game runs on a potato at least i don't think that's the case. There are far far bigger maps available on last gen consoles in similar titles with a more regular graphical style like DMZ /Warzone for example. Maybe its to keep costs down like you say but I see no technical reason the maps couldn't be 5 times larger even if they are aiming to release on last gen as well.
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Depends on what their targets are for last-gen. I haven't looked under the hood, so I don't know how Bungie have evolved their tech stack - or if they have at all. If they're aiming for frame rate parity - 60FPS, for example - last-gen would be an anchor around their entire implementation, and would explain why Marathon looks almost a generation behind - certainly well beneath their accomplishments with Destiny 2. I think load times would also be hugely problematic; larger single zone maps would take forever to load, where the difference to current gen would either force everyone to wait for the longest load or cause last-gen players to miss literally minutes of a match.
 
ZehDon said:
Depends on what their targets are for last-gen. I haven't looked under the hood, so I don't know how Bungie have evolved their tech stack - or if they have at all. If they're aiming for frame rate parity - 60FPS, for example - last-gen would be an anchor around their entire implementation, and would explain why Marathon looks almost a generation behind - certainly well beneath their accomplishments with Destiny 2. I think load times would also be hugely problematic; larger single zone maps would take forever to load, where the difference to current gen would either force everyone to wait for the longest load or cause last-gen players to miss literally minutes of a match.
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I don't think it's releasing on last gen tbh, would be a major own goal and piss a load of folks off. Loads of the D2 community want them to ditch last gen and that game is 7 years old at this point.
Its not just map size or graphics like you say, it would affect stuff like vault space, match wait times, everything basically. If it was coming it would be announced by now.

That said this is Bungie we are talking about, wouldn't be the first brain dead moved they have made.
 
clarky said:
I don't think it's releasing on last gen tbh, would be a major own goal and piss a load of folks off. Loads of the D2 community want them to ditch last gen and that game is 7 years old at this point.
Its not just map size or graphics like you say, it would affect stuff like vault space, match wait times, everything basically. If it was coming it would be announced by now.

That said this is Bungie we are talking about, wouldn't be the first brain dead moved they have made.
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Given how quiet Sony kept on some of their early cross-gen games, trying to pass them off as next-gen only, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't actually announce it and just launch. Marathon needs to make Bungie billions - the PS4 and Xbone is a way to get more people playing their game. I wonder if we'll see a mobile port in the future?
 
ZehDon said:
Given how quiet Sony kept on some of their early cross-gen games, trying to pass them off as next-gen only, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't actually announce it and just launch. Marathon needs to make Bungie billions - the PS4 and Xbone is a way to get more people playing their game. I wonder if we'll see a mobile port in the future?
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Depends on how popular it is/isn't. I guess.

I could see a switch 2 version for sure, mobile maybe. A standalone spin off if the audience is there like Destiny Rising or COD mobile. I don't see it getting that big to warrant it though. Plus its pretty sweaty I don't think it would translate well to touch screen controls
 
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Given how simple the geometry is, and how oversized and bulbous all the assets are, I'm pretty sure they also intend to bring it to phones and tablets.
 
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As a owner of a PS4 Pro that has not many reasons to upgrade (The few current-gen games i would want to play are nothing compared to my massive backlog), i would definitely enjoy a PS4 version of Marathon. Its artstyle is fascinating but its technical chops are perfectly sound for these machines.

More so than The Finals or Splitgate 2, which are both Unreal Engine 5 titles that are on Last-Gen.
 
Hopefully this doesn't end up holding the game back in any regard.

Still need the option to disable crossplay on PC.
 
Redneckerz said:
As a owner of a PS4 Pro that has not many reasons to upgrade (The few current-gen games i would want to play are nothing compared to my massive backlog), i would definitely enjoy a PS4 version of Marathon. Its artstyle is fascinating but its technical chops are perfectly sound for these machines.
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I would assume this will be 30fps on last gen. I don´t know if you want play a PvP focused game against other players who play this with 60fps or much more.
 
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Sakura said:
Doesn't Fortnite do well on Switch? And I think Apex Legends too.
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Does it? If it was that big they wouldn't have abandoned it



The installbase number for Switch 2 is even smaller. I doubt a Switch 2 release of a paid multiplayer shooter is going to do much at all.
 
Three said:
Does it? If it was that big they wouldn't have abandoned it



The installbase number for Switch 2 is even smaller. I doubt a Switch 2 release of a paid multiplayer shooter is going to do much at all.
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I wouldn't say they abandoned it. It's on Switch 2 now. There are live service games that ended service on PS4 but are still on PS5.
I don't know how much of an appeal there is for Marathon specifically though, I think games like Fortnite are probably popular with younger audiences.
 
Sakura said:
I wouldn't say they abandoned it. It's on Switch 2 now. There are live service games that ended service on PS4 but are still on PS5.
I don't know how much of an appeal there is for Marathon specifically though, I think games like Fortnite are probably popular with younger audiences.
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The same applies there, that is normally because the population gets to a point where it's not worth support costs. If it was sizeable they keep would keep it.
 
Tarnpanzer said:
I would assume this will be 30fps on last gen. I don´t know if you want play a PvP focused game against other players who play this with 60fps or much more.
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I mean, for me it would just be to highlight how technically fascinating it would be. And 60 FPS could be achieve i feel, especially on the enhanced consoles. It doesn't look like a real CPU bound game.
GoldenEye98 said:
Is this basically using same engine as Destiny? If so I guess it sorta makes sense...
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its the Tiger Engine, further modified. Which in some sorts is still the good old Blam Engine from Halo. They really ought to get a more modern tech out there. Then again they are one of the few devs with a custom engine, as everything is Unreal these days. I personally find that charming.
 
CowboyLou said:
GAF leadership, please add a feature to see what % of a user's posts are just a reaction GIF. I'm dying to know.
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It's literally idiotic, thread makers should have option to disable such responses or something. Should be even bannable, contributes nothing except annoyance.
 
ps4/xbone version is cool and all, but i think in this case we need to dig much deeper, how about atari jaguar version on top, hell we even got template how it could look, roughly:
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geary said:
Like you with all the crazy shit threads you open to shit on games based on tweets?
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My threads bring in the laughs and excitement. And those threads you're referring too aren't meant to be taken seriously simmer down lol. I also do review threads and news threads that are meant to be taken seriously though and I enjoy those as well.

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