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My first kickstarter…lofree hyzen keyboard

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Decided to back this product since the early impression on YouTube are just WOW!!!
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GAF whats your experience with kickstarter?
 
Some come out, some are scams, and some never make it.

I find by the time they release I do not care anymore.
 
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Some come out, some are scams, and some never make it.

I find by the time they release I do not care anymore.
Same. I've lost a couple hundred in early kickstarters that were either straight "take the money and run" scams or so poorly managed they ballooned into financial death spirals and the company just backed out and shafted the kickstarters. Others took YEARS longer to deliver, had to ask for more money to cover increased costs, or drastically reduced what they really delivered. In all of these cases there was ZERO compensation to kickstarters, ZERO fucks given by kickstarter, ZERO repercussions for the company and many went on to do it AGAIN.

I swore off KS for almost a decade but have gotten back in again, or similar 'crowd funding' sites like backerkit. It's a "throw the money away, be pleasantly surprised months later when stuff shows up in a big box" kinda thing. Really legit companies just use it for early cash to make their product risk free, they throw in silly "KS exclusives" to rope in the folks with FOMO, and you can often get as good as or even better deal at retail later on if you could just wait.
 
Games and stuff have been a mixed bag, id never trust hardware though, I know theres success stories but more fail then succeed
 
Why is it so hard to find full keyboards these days, damn it I still use the numpad
Numpad is great but gets in the way for modern FPS unless you start getting real weird with your controls. I had a separate numpad for a while but the blue switches were too clickety clackety and mismatched with my actual keyboard. I'm in the market for a new keyboard and will probably just stick with the tenkeyless. Once you start going smaller with no dedicated F-keys and no gaps between various clusters of keys (F-keys, arrow keys, etc..) I start getting really uncomfy.
 
Numpad is great but gets in the way for modern FPS unless you start getting real weird with your controls. I had a separate numpad for a while but the blue switches were too clickety clackety and mismatched with my actual keyboard. I'm in the market for a new keyboard and will probably just stick with the tenkeyless. Once you start going smaller with no dedicated F-keys and no gaps between various clusters of keys (F-keys, arrow keys, etc..) I start getting really uncomfy.

How the F you need more keys than 35 keys for an FPS? That's the keys readily available at your 5 left hand fingers, without any juggle or taking your hands off the W.
Plus you probably have at least 6-0 buttons/commands on the mouse, without even getting into macros.

I like the numpad because 1. I'm a excel rat 2.it leaves plenty of real estate for the config keys (injectors/config shortcut, screenshot, overlay, that kind of command you don't use very often on sims etc)
 
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Numpad is great but gets in the way for modern FPS unless you start getting real weird with your controls. I had a separate numpad for a while but the blue switches were too clickety clackety and mismatched with my actual keyboard. I'm in the market for a new keyboard and will probably just stick with the tenkeyless. Once you start going smaller with no dedicated F-keys and no gaps between various clusters of keys (F-keys, arrow keys, etc..) I start getting really uncomfy.
How does a numpad get in the way of an FPS? The numpad is on the right and my keyboard fingers are on WASD.
 
How the F you need more keys than 35 keys for an FPS? That's the keys readily available at your 5 left hand fingers, without any juggle or taking your hands off the W.
Plus you probably have at least 6-0 buttons/commands on the mouse, without even getting into macros.

I like the numpad because 1. I'm a excel rat 2.it leaves plenty of real estate for the config keys (injectors/config shortcut, screenshot, overlay, that kind of command you don't use very often on sims etc)

How does a numpad get in the way of an FPS? The numpad is on the right and my keyboard fingers are on WASD.
I just meant the location of the numpad on the right takes away too much space from your mousepad/hand. So you can either turn your keyboard sideways or just have a really wide wingspan while playing. Or play high sensitivity. But it just gets in the way of low/medium sens.
 
How the F you need more keys than 35 keys for an FPS? That's the keys readily available at your 5 left hand fingers, without any juggle or taking your hands off the W.
Plus you probably have at least 6-0 buttons/commands on the mouse, without even getting into macros.

I like the numpad because 1. I'm a excel rat 2.it leaves plenty of real estate for the config keys (injectors/config shortcut, screenshot, overlay, that kind of command you don't use very often on sims etc)
As an Excel rat myself, I hear you. I'm sometimes tempted to get a USB numpad for home. Typing in a credit card number on the number row feels like unnecessary pain. But I do like the extra space.
 
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I just meant the location of the numpad on the right takes away too much space from your mousepad/hand. So you can either turn your keyboard sideways or just have a really wide wingspan while playing. Or play high sensitivity. But it just gets in the way of low/medium sens.
My kid got one of these, but we have not tried to use it. Seems to be a little too niche, but maybe the ergonomics make it worthwhile.

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My kid got one of these, but we have not tried to use it. Seems to be a little too niche, but maybe the ergonomics make it worthwhile.

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In my XIM days I used a Logitech G13 which is kinda like that just with a thumbstick. I've looked at some others for PC FPS gaming but they're a little limiting and if I really feel like I need more mousepad space than a tenkeyless gives me, I would just got with an even more compact keyboard like a 60%. But I already described what I don't like about that style of keyboard. An example where the keypad won't work for me: in Battlefield, for helicopter controls, I map exit vehicle to J and swing up to hit it with my left thumb. I like having that key in Narnia so that it's very deliberate, and I can't hit it by accident.

I also use FPS focused mice so I don't have many extra binds available there. And generally I hate M5 positioning so I only use that as a half-assed push-to-mute/talk button for Discord/game respectively.
 
That magnetic keyboard does look dope, I'll give it that. But I'm officially tapped out before my wife turns into an assassin.

I just dropped $700 on a toilet that opens itself, closes itself, flushes itself, cleans itself, washes my funky ass, and leaves the bathroom smelling like you just walked through Lush. Pair that with the Akai MPC 37 I just picked up… yeah, another purchase is gonna be a hard sell.

It's not like I got bonds to offload to the Federal Reserve so I can start growing money trees in the backyard. :messenger_weary:
 
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That magnetic keyboard does look dope, I'll give it that. But I'm officially tapped out before my wife turns into a an assassin.

I just dropped $700 on a toilet that opens itself, closes itself, flushes itself, cleans itself, washes my funky ass, and leaves the bathroom smelling like you just walked through Lush. Pair that with the Akai MPC 37 I just picked up… yeah, another purchase is gonna be a hard sell.

It's not like I got bonds to offload to the Federal Reserve so I can start growing money trees in the backyard. :messenger_weary:
In what marriage is such a purchase on the HUSBAND?!?! Seems to me your wife should be so happy about this gift that you can splurge on a keyboard :P
 
I am addicted to Kickstarter I think. I have 8 campaigns I've pledged so far this year. So far it looks like only one of them was a scam, a 27,000 mAh power bank. Although I'm thinking I'm never going to see that hard copy of the EGM Compendium I paid $75 for, either.

I need to stop buying my gadgets from crowdfunding campaigns because I know if it breaks I'm probably shit out of luck.

This is the one I'm looking forward to most right now:

 
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Some come out, some are scams, and some never make it.

I find by the time they release I do not care anymore.
I see a lot of people mad on Kickstarter because they spent money on something that didn't even exist when they bought it not shipping on time. When something I pledged shows up I get giddy like it's Christmas because none of that stuff ships on time.
 
I've back a lot of kickstarters and this product looks basically done so I think you are safe with your backing here!

I skipped on this line because it doesn't have a numpad.

I bet you will love it though, esp if this is your first high end keyboard.
 
Word the fuck up bro!! Imma have that crazy mutha fucka read your post when I get home.

She read it. I'm not getting the Keyboard yawl. I'm also sleeping in the mancave tonight. She wanted me to too cuss jason10mm out buy Imma hold on to at least that much of my dignity and pass.
 
She read it. I'm not getting the Keyboard yawl. I'm also sleeping in the mancave tonight. She wanted me to too cuss jason10mm out buy Imma hold on to at least that much of my dignity and pass.
Just drop a big stinky shit in your other bathroom so when she cleans it she can appreciate the self cleaning one!


Edit: if she is reading this, thanks for letting idleeyes to pm me those nudes!
 
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Kickstarter can kiss my ass. You want me to buy your product? Make it and sell that shit in a shop, then if I like it I'll buy it. I'm not paying for your coke and hoes while you develop stuff.
 
Never backed anything in kickstarter. There have been so may games that have either ended up cancelled or abandoned. I would imagine most, if not all, these devs are working on these games part time and contracting out a lot of the work. Those costs add up and I doubt the creators know how to budget properly or manage projects accordingly.

This one has been in development for like 7 or 8 years at this point:



Drift Stage had a really promising demo and the entire development fell apart over a dispute between the people working on it. Apparently it's back in development, but it started 12 years ago.




And of course Watermelon games. Last I checked, there's people out there that still haven't received their copies of Paprium.
 
Bloodstained, ShenMue, Eiyuden Chronicle, and a few others went well. Unsung Story was a nightmare because it had potential and then became a game I didn't want at all years later. The person who was famous for starting it dropped out, development was delayed, and then everything was redone by a company I had zero interest in. That's what made me stop looking at Kickstarter projects for games. The non-game stuff I got was a Pine 64. A 64-bit board, much like a Rapsberry Pi. At the time I had no idea what to do with it, so I gave it to a coworker. I've got 2-3 Pi's at home now a days. Kickstarter is great when you actually get something enjoyable out of the product.
 
Bloodstained, ShenMue, Eiyuden Chronicle, and a few others went well. Unsung Story was a nightmare because it had potential and then became a game I didn't want at all years later. The person who was famous for starting it dropped out, development was delayed, and then everything was redone by a company I had zero interest in. That's what made me stop looking at Kickstarter projects for games. The non-game stuff I got was a Pine 64. A 64-bit board, much like a Rapsberry Pi. At the time I had no idea what to do with it, so I gave it to a coworker. I've got 2-3 Pi's at home now a days. Kickstarter is great when you actually get something enjoyable out of the product.

Those games all had very experienced producers and staff.
 
Those games all had very experienced producers and staff.
It was good starting out, but it slowly went down hill. Underworld Ascendant, NightCry (spiritual successor to Clock Tower), Into the Stars (former EA devs made a cockpit space sim, which was good for the first hour or so, and then it was dropped. What we got was unfinished iirc), Timespinner (a bland SOTN rip off), Last Year (crappy multiplayer game), and a few others I either never played or just tossed them an early bird pledge because of the hype. When you're riding that hype train on kickstarters, lots of projects look good. I really enjoyed three of the fourteen projects I backed. One of them was an Earthbound book.
 
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