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Jigsaah
Gold Member
I don't think the Xbox one did either if I'm not mistaken.Series X doesn't have Bluetooth?
Moridianae
Member
Aren't there current rumors of a revision or spec bump to the PS5? Dunno. It's possible.
SteveLorde
Banned
LOL Xbox definitely has bluetooth wtf, this is a gay sheet
Birdo
Banned
One S controllers are Bluetooth (Only OG ones weren't).
They work on Series X, so this spec sheet much be wrong.
hyperbertha
Member
Series X doesn't have Bluetooth?
And thus began the Bluetooth wars (ca. 2020 AD - )
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TimFL
Member
Is Bluetooth the secret sauce?
geordiemp
Member
I can't even begin to understand all of this. Tech heads. break it down for the masses. I personally cannot vouch for the validity of this sheet. It's fun to speculate though.
Here is the original tweet:
And a blown up version of the spec sheet so folks can read.
As soon as I see the German I know its Colbert and the discord gang.
Sad.
kingpotato
Ask me about my Stream Deck
Think this will be the first time I ignore a user the same time I ignore a thread. Great job OP! See you on the other side.
Musky_Cheese
Banned
Damn that PS5 looks incredibly fast and powerful
SteveLorde
Banned
Xbox Sex is dead. Phil should've focused on the fucking SSD
Craig of War
Banned
The Controller does when it is used for PC but the Console does not it uses a proprietary signal for lower latency here read this.
No Bluetooth for Xbox Series X
The Xbox Series X won't have Bluetooth, similarly to the Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X. The reason is simple; the Bluetooth signal isn't strong enough to meet Microsoft's specifications for latency. Microsoft uses its proprietary signal, dubbed Xbox Wireless, for connecting controllers and other accessories, like the Turtle Beach Stealth 600 and the SteelSeries 9X wireless headsets.
Microsoft's signal is far stronger than Bluetooth, and since many people typically game while sitting far away from their consoles in the living room or so on, Bluetooth's susceptibility to interference increases exponentially at longer ranges.
If you were hoping you could use a USB Bluetooth adapter, it likely wouldn't work either, as the Xbox Series X and other Xbox One consoles don't have the drivers necessary to power them.
Craig of War
Banned
Maybe they overclocked it again lol
Amiga
Member
PS5 SSD Raw speed =5.5
XBSX SSD compressed speed =4.8
this is going to be a thing for 3rd party devs, if they cap their code streaming at 4.8 for the xboxSX they can skip compression altogether on PS5 and just push Raw data directly, this means the PS5 the APU can run processing in less time, potentially giving better frame rates.
PS5 has even more faster specs:
PS5 SSD lanes = 4> 2 for XBSX
PS5 SSD channels = 12> 4 for XBSX
PS5 SSD priority levels = 6> 2 for the XBSX
PS5 I/O max throughput = 22> 6 for the XBSX
XBSX SSD compressed speed =4.8
this is going to be a thing for 3rd party devs, if they cap their code streaming at 4.8 for the xboxSX they can skip compression altogether on PS5 and just push Raw data directly, this means the PS5 the APU can run processing in less time, potentially giving better frame rates.
PS5 has even more faster specs:
PS5 SSD lanes = 4> 2 for XBSX
PS5 SSD channels = 12> 4 for XBSX
PS5 SSD priority levels = 6> 2 for the XBSX
PS5 I/O max throughput = 22> 6 for the XBSX
Bolivar687
Banned
Damn.
It's going to be so crazy if MS gets underpriced and outperformed again because Sony outclassed them on design.
It's going to be so crazy if MS gets underpriced and outperformed again because Sony outclassed them on design.
GreyHand23
Member
This makes no sense. Compression is also to reduce the size of the game, so it won't be skipped. Also the PS5 has dedicated hardware for decompression so there is no benefit to keeping the data in raw format, especially since Kraken is a lossless compressor.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
Cute spreadsheet.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Wow how many rows related to the SSD do you need to add? lol
Whoever did this is a Sony fanboy
Whoever did this is a Sony fanboy
LordOfChaos
Member
This is just someone compiling stuff we already knew and getting some wrong
Insane Metal
Member
25TF 
anothertech
Member
25TF LOLOLOLOL
Craig needs some flops I'll tell ya
Craig needs some flops I'll tell ya
Pallas
Gold Member
No offense but did this really need a new thread? There’s a very large speculation thread for this type of stuff.
Outside of the theoretical TF count, it’s mostly paints the PS5 in a positive light, doubtful that the notorious “Xbox discord gang” would be behind this.
JLMC469
Banned
Amazing that people are already falling for it.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Gold Member
Why would they list Series X GPU at 1845 MHz yet not actually write the TF number that would provide, 12.28 TF?
Several other parts look fake, too. There is GPU hardware customization (MIP blending hardware) for SFS implementation on XvA. Many patents show this.
Guess this came from a Sony Discord group? It's fake news.
I was lenient enough to not even spot or consider that xD, but yeah, no one can call this an accurate spec sheet if they can't get their numbers in agreement.
It's like whoever made it doesn't know how clock frequencies factor into TF counts on AMD RDNA GPU architectures...among a lot of other things they don't actually know.
Several other parts look fake, too. There is GPU hardware customization (MIP blending hardware) for SFS implementation on XvA. Many patents show this.
Guess this came from a Sony Discord group? It's fake news.
I was lenient enough to not even spot or consider that xD, but yeah, no one can call this an accurate spec sheet if they can't get their numbers in agreement.
It's like whoever made it doesn't know how clock frequencies factor into TF counts on AMD RDNA GPU architectures...among a lot of other things they don't actually know.
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Empire Strikes Back
Member
There's no new info here, and the PS5 is not 10.8TF.
DaGwaphics
Member
The controllers support both Bluetooth and WiFi direct (custom), I believe they only interface with Xbox consoles over WiFi direct. Could be mistaken.
Edit: I was wrong, looks like controllers use "Xbox Wireless" to connect to consoles. https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox...infrared (IR) and Wi,the front of the console.
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quickwhips
Member
My controller does. That is how it works with gamepass streaming on android.
Amiga
Member
games can be installed uncompressed
Jigsaah
Gold Member
Yea I was referring to the system. I've tried bluetooth on the newer xbox controllers on pc. It's not good, Bob.
Mistershine.
Banned
Your controller isn't an xbox. No xbox consoles have Bluetooth.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Think about what you are typing before you type it.
Modern Warfare is 100+GBs....the PS5 SSD has ~800GBs of storage.
Lets store games uncompressed on it.
Just because you can do something doesnt mean you should.
Having dedicated decompression hardware also makes NOT compressing that much dumber of a thing to do......unless your game is actually really small and doesnt need to be compressed, utilizing the hardware you have makes more sense than NOT.
Amiga
Member
200-400 GB could could become the new normal. It's a given we will need expansion storage.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Or we could use the dedicated hardware decompression built into this amazing piece of new technology and have games be reasonably sized while not losing any performance.....since the geniuses at Sony thought about this and made sure the system had "dedicated" hardware to do this very thing!
Being able to install 2 or 3 games on your nextgen console before needing to spend 200 dollars on a 4.0 doesnt make sense.
You might as well just sell me the game on a 256GB 4.0.
