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Anita Sarkeesian's astounding 'garbage human' moment at Vidcon

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I believe racist people exist and will always exist, but it is a minor issue that is overblown by the left to push socialism. The biggest problem in the black community is no daddies, which was caused by the welfare state encouraging such behavior. Black families were more intact during Jim Crow then they are now. How sad is that? This also hurts whites FYI, just not as much yet.

I know I'm quoting this very late but HOLEEEEE FUCK

Advocating harassment (death threats, stalking, rape wishes) of a person who just wants better representation of women in video gaming (& other entertainment, but vidya games are what got this shit train started, NO ONE insults nerds' precious vidya geimz) is "the opposite side of the same cloth" as a woman making some pretty light-weight criticism on current popular culture?

But she said my perfect video games could be better in certain ways. UNFORGIVEABLE
 

BigDes

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Sargon set his followers on a girl working in a shop because she wore a shirt that said the dreaded F word on it.

Anita made a video about how the ways women represented in videogames are distasteful.

Clearly these people are just as vile as each other.
 

fester

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Gotta be honest. I don't understand that last panel.

It's a Dune reference, she's riding a sand worm like Paul Atreides. She's been hunted, attacked, and her life in danger, but that is what ultimately brings about her becoming "Maud'Dib", the savior of the planet.

Yes, it's an incredibly geeky reference which is partly why it works so well. :)
 

B-Genius

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Carl's actions and words are putrid in of themselves, but it's just as infuriating knowing that his followers are a bunch of children who have no idea what kind of idiotic example they're setting.

I can just see that kid lying on his bed, feeling himself with his phone camera, all tuckered out after his "playful" japes with internet mates.

Makes me want to kill.
 

The Dink

Member
It's a reference to Dune; basically she becomes the Messiah

Okay. See I figured it was a Dune reference, just wasn't sure how it related to the rest of the comic. Haven't seen/read Dune but makes sense.

Sargon set his followers on a girl working in a shop because she wore a shirt that said the dreaded F word on it.

Anita made a video about how the ways women represented in videogames are distasteful.

Clearly these people are just as vile as each other.

Hey now let's not forget. She also uses Twitter.
 
How is it none of these guys have gotten the shit kicked out of them? Serious question.

I'm baffled that someone these guys have harassed haven't done something or a loved one of one of these people hasn't done something that would lead to one of these guys getting thrown a beating.
 

Zambayoshi

Member
I make no comment here on the work of Anita or Carl or anyone else.

I personally think that:

(a) Anita was perfectly OK in doing what she did and in making the comments she did about Carl; and

(b) Carl was perfectly OK sitting in the audience, filming Anita and asking for a debate.

A caveat: I am not aware of any death threats or threats of violence having been made against Anita by anyone in that audience (although I know that threats have been made against her in the past). If anyone who had threatened Anita was in that audience, it changes the picture and you then have a scenario where the police can and should get involved to protect Anita.

Bottom line: a certain amount of debate and heckling is OK, but people should not be advocating violence against anyone, whatever their viewpoints.
 

Ms.Galaxy

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I know I'm quoting this very late but HOLEEEEE FUCK

You know, the stupidity of nesmar's racist comment does have one truth to it. A problem in black communities is the fact that there's a lot of families broken apart, but it wasn't because of the mythical "welfare state". It's because of the War on Drugs that Nixon purposely planned to target black communities and that Reagan pushed even harder. Two people who were super anti-socialism (though some say Nixon was "socialist"), but oh so super racist.
 

Dr. Worm

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I had an acquaintance who tried to show me some of Sargon's stuff, but I wasn't really paying attention to whatever it was (some historical/military thing?), so I just kinda smiled and nodded and blew him off with "yeah I'll check it out later,"

Not really looking forward to seeing this guy again after reading this, since I can't imagine that he doesn't eat up this bullshit with a knife and fork.

Also, gonna be a little more difficult to listen to They Might Be Giants' "The Mesopotamians" now.
 

Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
I make no comment here on the work of Anita or Carl or anyone else.

I personally think that:

(a) Anita was perfectly OK in doing what she did and in making the comments she did about Carl; and

(b) Carl was perfectly OK sitting in the audience, filming Anita and asking for a debate.
He did no such thing nor had any intention of doing that. Read the article. A line was crossed years ago and it's time to stop normalizing people like Carl's behavior by even remotely insinuating that their ideas hold any sort of weight.

A caveat: I am not aware of any death threats or threats of violence having been made against Anita by anyone in that audience (although I know that threats have been made against her in the past). If anyone who had threatened Anita was in that audience, it changes the picture and you then have a scenario where the police can and should get involved to protect Anita.

Bottom line: a certain amount of debate and heckling is OK, but people should not be advocating violence against anyone, whatever their viewpoints.
Not from people who've been harassing you for years.
 

D i Z

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I make no comment here on the work of Anita or Carl or anyone else.

I personally think that:

(a) Anita was perfectly OK in doing what she did and in making the comments she did about Carl; and

(b) Carl was perfectly OK sitting in the audience, filming Anita and asking for a debate.

A caveat: I am not aware of any death threats or threats of violence having been made against Anita by anyone in that audience (although I know that threats have been made against her in the past). If anyone who had threatened Anita was in that audience, it changes the picture and you then have a scenario where the police can and should get involved to protect Anita.

Bottom line: a certain amount of debate and heckling is OK, but people should not be advocating violence against anyone, whatever their viewpoints.

These individuals by their own admission were there to troll and be threatening. They would know that their actions would be perceived in such a way (and the reason for showing up to begin with) because they are aware of how she has been treated. By them.

The fuck outta here with this.
 
Guys I have no knowledge of the situation or the context therein, or the history of the relationship of those involved.

BUT LEMME TELL YOU WHY I THINK THEY'RE BOTH IN THE WRONG HERE.
 
I make no comment here on the work of Anita or Carl or anyone else.

I personally think that:

(a) Anita was perfectly OK in doing what she did and in making the comments she did about Carl; and

(b) Carl was perfectly OK sitting in the audience, filming Anita and asking for a debate.

A caveat: I am not aware of any death threats or threats of violence having been made against Anita by anyone in that audience (although I know that threats have been made against her in the past). If anyone who had threatened Anita was in that audience, it changes the picture and you then have a scenario where the police can and should get involved to protect Anita.

Bottom line: a certain amount of debate and heckling is OK, but people should not be advocating violence against anyone, whatever their viewpoints.
Hey. You're objectively wrong.

Guys I have no knowledge of the situation or the context therein, or the history of the relationship of those involved.

BUT LEMME TELL YOU WHY I THINK THEY'RE BOTH IN THE WRONG HERE.
Ah, but you seen I've evolved. Let me tell you how they're both actually *right*
 

Ms.Galaxy

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I make no comment here on the work of Anita or Carl or anyone else.

I personally think that:

(a) Anita was perfectly OK in doing what she did and in making the comments she did about Carl; and

(b) Carl was perfectly OK sitting in the audience, filming Anita and asking for a debate.

A caveat: I am not aware of any death threats or threats of violence having been made against Anita by anyone in that audience (although I know that threats have been made against her in the past). If anyone who had threatened Anita was in that audience, it changes the picture and you then have a scenario where the police can and should get involved to protect Anita.

Bottom line: a certain amount of debate and heckling is OK, but people should not be advocating violence against anyone, whatever their viewpoints.

Oh she tried to get the police involved in the past, but the law in the U.S. is completely under-equip to handle online harassment.

Also, he doesn't deserve the time of day from her considering his actions in the past. Hell, he and his piles of puss filled bags of human waste that took the first three rows were there to intimidate and troll her, not to have an actual honest discussion. Fuck them, they can rot.
 

Aaron

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Bottom line: a certain amount of debate and heckling is OK, but people should not be advocating violence against anyone, whatever their viewpoints.
No it's not. Why the hell would you think that? If someone gives a speech, you don't have the right to shit talk them. Imagine every time you opened your mouth in public someone shouted 'Fucker!' Before you could say anything. Imagine that happening every single time you tried to say anything in public. Still okay with a little heckling?
 

Crayon

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How is it none of these guys have gotten the shit kicked out of them? Serious question.

I've asked myself this. The answer is that we know they would be quicker than anyone to sue someone who hit them.

You can't arrest them. You can't hit them. It's infuriating.
 

gabbo

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Bottom line: a certain amount of debate and heckling is OK, but people should not be advocating violence against anyone, whatever their viewpoints.

Heckling is acceptable from the audience of panels now? His history with her, and the threatening nature his presence creates aside, he's in the audience, he doesn't get a say in the discussion, even if he's called out directly by it. He sits down and shuts up lest given the floor.
 
No it's not. Why the hell would you think that? If someone gives a speech, you don't have the right to shit talk them. Imagine every time you opened your mouth in public someone shouted 'Fucker!' Before you could say anything. Imagine that happening every single time you tried to say anything in public. Still okay with a little heckling?

Goddam that's brutal. Can't find a good source online of the panel, but I want to hear how bad it gets. I always hate when people try to keep people from speaking (SPEAKING!), it's crazy when people can't speak unobstructed.

We need more civil communication, not less.
 
How is it none of these guys have gotten the shit kicked out of them? Serious question.

I'm baffled that someone these guys have harassed haven't done something or a loved one of one of these people hasn't done something that would lead to one of these guys getting thrown a beating.

I bet at least some of them have gotten beatings. I wouldn't be at all surprised if these people were ostracized and bullied or just beat for being shitty people. But rather than stand up they decided to become the bullies.
 

Ponn

Banned
I make no comment here on the work of Anita or Carl or anyone else.

I personally think that:

(a) Anita was perfectly OK in doing what she did and in making the comments she did about Carl; and

(b) Carl was perfectly OK sitting in the audience, filming Anita and asking for a debate.

A caveat: I am not aware of any death threats or threats of violence having been made against Anita by anyone in that audience (although I know that threats have been made against her in the past). If anyone who had threatened Anita was in that audience, it changes the picture and you then have a scenario where the police can and should get involved to protect Anita.

Bottom line: a certain amount of debate and heckling is OK, but people should not be advocating violence against anyone, whatever their viewpoints.

I love how with these both sides arguments how the same shit keeps getting conveniently left out like all the videos about Anita made by these people specifically to incite their followers, the lead up and very detailed and specific planning of the harassment campaign, the one guy video taping himself after talking about getting an adrenaline rush from harassing a girl. Where are these like things on "the other side"?

These are downplays and things that people well aware of how harassment works are intentionally leaving out of their arguments or they are naive and ignorant of how real harassment like this works. Victims of real harassment know full well how toothless the police are against it, and guess what, so are the harassers. YouTube people are keenly aware of how to manipulate their followers and keep them incited just enough to keep them from being found legally culpable. In this day and age of Fox News and YouTube you can waste your energy fighting against the endless millions of incited harassers or you can start calling out the root leaders and holding them accountable.
 
I believe I heard about this first on Joe Rogan's podcast. Sargon sounded hypocritical at points, and like a career YouTube politician whose job is to make a video on every development in internet drama. What I gathered from him on his podcast.

IIRC he denies that he "storms" the rows of seats on her panel. He also claims that articles would be written on this depicting him in a negative light, as opposed to the neutral stance he says he had. I've known of Anita as long as she been around, and I understand how her series is flawed and how she isn't that great at her mission. Sargon, however, is just another new trend of internet users whose claim to fame is commenting (taking a shit) on whatever idiocy is trending.

Anita's career will last longer than Sargon's, I am almost certain of this. These pseudo-intellectual commentators are the next blight on the internet.
 

Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
it really *is* like a hydra
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KillLaCam

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She's EXTREMELY annoying to me when she talks about gaming . But those other guys are acting actually being bad people, they need to chill out
 
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