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Congress Clears Keystone XL Pipeline Bill

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ahoyhoy

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All keystone does for the US is divert Canadian oil away from the Midwest to the international market (raising prices in the Inland states) and expose US land aND water resources to the environmental hazards and externalities of the pipeline. It's a net loss for 99.9998% of the US.

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ahoyhoy

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You sure it's only 99.9998%?

I rounded up for brevity's sake. Can't afford all dem 9s in this economy.

It'll benefit a bunch of contracting firms and some people invested in Canadian oil businesses, so maybe 10,000 people max.

plus kickbacks for the local politicians, naturally
 
I work in oil and gas in downtown Calgary, actually have a couple of friends that work on this project.

Pretty much everyone who I work with think that the people that oppose this are all tree hugging hippies. They are really disconnected with the rest of the world, blame most of the world's problems on Muslims and Gays.
 

ahoyhoy

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How did it get 60 Senate votes?

Just need 6 Blue Dog Democrats/Democrats from states that might barely benefit from the pipeline in some trumped up way/Spineless Democrats that are easily bullied (see: most) to cross the aisle on this one. Probably wasn't super difficult.
 

NateDrake

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The Keystone pipeline also has very little to do with American energy. It's just a pipeline that will help ship Canadian tar sands oil down to Texas refineries for sale to India and China. The only reason a lot of politicians want this to pass is because the Canadian company probably lobbied for it, and because the companies invested in maintaining the pipeline and/or shipping the crude probably line their pockets too.

As a Canadian, this is a great pipeline. It's relatively safe. Most of Europe gets its oil and gas through pipelines. Plus it will help get our oil to places quicker shipping direct from Texas. If this doesn't pass they have to look West through BC where it's not as likely to pass.

As an American, this will do little for Americans beyond a few hundred jobs. It's Canadian oil shipping for a Canadian company. This won't lower your oil cost, this won't be for American consumers mostly. There is too much risk vs reward here. Think about a massive pipeline crossing from Alberta Canada all the way down to Texas.

But our elected officials continue to claim it will give America energy independence from nations like Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, and other oil rich countries. It does nothing for American energy or economy once construction is complete.
 

FyreWulff

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Also, I hope people seriously do not believe they will stop shipping oil via train if this pipeline is built

They will continue to ship it via train IN ADDITION to the pipeline, they're not gonna give up throughput, and continue to ship even though pipelines already exist through the area.
 
Considering the shit republicans have pulled the last 6 years they should at least get in some big concessions if they want this bill passed.
 
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