Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Why wouldn't you accept your own context?
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Exploration of Probability of a UAP Seen on Earth Originating from Another Planet
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Why wouldn't you accept your own context?
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Oh shit I fucked up my English expression lol.
I meant you wouldn't exept my context.
And seeing I'm not sure myself yet there's no point I guess
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
‘Flying Aliens’ Harassing Village in Peru Are Actually Illegal Miners With Jetpacks, Cops Say
Authorities announced their theory after visiting the isolated Indigenous community where the attacks took place.
www.vice.com
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
lol no worries
I don't know why you'd think that since I've stated many times I'm open to changing my mind provided you make a reasonable case. Even if I don't accept your context, I'll tell you why.
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Thank you sincerely for being so cordial.
Yes you did but operating from a proven scientific pov. If I'm not mistaken.
I'd rather not get banned, shunned, laughed at for my way of approaching the world. Hence it isn't officially deemed true through the scientific and thus real/proven/believable point as such I dare to share it •
Hence my "better not engage" manner of aproach.
Liljagare
Member
There is proof of UAV/UAP/UFOS/USOS, but there is still nothing showing theese still aren't man made objects.
This DMK (Lockheed Martin's Multiple Kill Vehicle (MKV-L), was shown in 2008, but was supposedly in operation in 1990's. If they choose to show this tech, just imagine all the stuff they haven't shown us.
Now, add more/better fuel, and a exhaust diminisher, and more outlets for the jets. What does it look like? And, man-made.
There are drones available to the public that can easily do 0-200 in a second.
This DMK (Lockheed Martin's Multiple Kill Vehicle (MKV-L), was shown in 2008, but was supposedly in operation in 1990's. If they choose to show this tech, just imagine all the stuff they haven't shown us.
Now, add more/better fuel, and a exhaust diminisher, and more outlets for the jets. What does it look like? And, man-made.
There are drones available to the public that can easily do 0-200 in a second.
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Ishma3L
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Or Dutch.
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Aren't you busy with the flat earth hypothesis?
Liljagare
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Ishmael. Jewish?.
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Liljagare
Member
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Eh niet echt een issue als ik een mede Nederlander persoonlijk benader.
Great backseat modding btw ☆
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VN1X
Banned
I'm Dutch!!!1
Grildon Tundy
Gold Member
I THINK you and I are agreeing.There's nothing wrong with having a little fun with thought experiments. They key concept to remember here is:
You don't know. I don't know. No one knows. And that's fine. Credentials are great, but ultimately they don't know any more than you or I do. There's a reason the argument from authority is a logical fallacy.
Some people are very uncomfortable with "I don't know" and want to jump to conclusions. That would be illogical.
The Navy men and the NYT didn't make any definitive claims to it being aliens as far as I know, and I wasn't trying to appeal to their authority as to the TicTac origin being alien, but I WAS willing to believe what they saw A) existed and B) is currently unexplainable and C) was an aerial phenomenon. A UAP.
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I'm Dutch!!!1
inderdaad.
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Another one with a blocked profile, 5Was your thumbs up sarcastic or not
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goes without saying no
Grildon Tundy
Gold Member
I dunno, man. I thought it'd be a bigger deal that that thing was recorded and reported on through a reputable channel and the fact it doesn't grab others' attention like it does mine makes me feel like...an alien.
MilkyJoe
Member
Just a reminder that the 4Chan leaker said to keep an eye on Laser technology...
innovationorigins.com
China’s Laser Leap: A Revolutionary Cooling System for High-Energy Weapons
China’s significant breakthrough in high-energy laser technology has the potential to shift the balance of power in military technology
innovationorigins.com
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Sorry, I've misread your response/post.
Well. Reputable is in the eye of the beholder. I've heard many anecdotes from reputable sources, even private researchers which work is dismissed by mere being unable to expand their programmed mind.
But reading your post and what your thought's regarding said incident wasn't as you imagined (by lack of a better word)
can indeed feel alienating, pardon the pun.
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Romulus
Member
Could be man made, but I've had issue these high performance craft were on radar for hours and could pull 200g of force and go underwater and into space. 28000ft to 5 ft in 1 second.
In 2004.
The other issue is Belguim radar event and pilots observed similar decades before 2004 and several others before that described instant acceleration.
And then it's like why are these secret craft coming so close to fighters when that's not what black project pilots do historically?
Difficult to image the tech is that much of a leap and they changed their behavior to be the opposite of other black projects.
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Well I have some thought's regarding their origin but I'm sure those wouldn't be appreciated LOL
TheDreadBaron
Member
The whole thing grabs my attention but a lot of the interesting bits are never shown. I understand if militaries aren’t going to release radar data that could compromise their security, but that’s where all the supposed impossible physics behavior could be shown, I don’t see it in the videos. Even then, seeing weird impossible data on the radar could indicate the radar was confused or spoofed. It’s too weird to outright dismiss, but the most compelling physical evidence we have access to is a grainy video where a blob appears to rotate strangely, that’s not a whole lot to go on.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I should add on that the framing of this discussion oftentimes also erroneously assumes that these UAPs are even some kind of craft or vehicle. Just because someone isn't jumping to the conclusion of "ALIENS!" doesn't mean that assuming it is some kind of a machine or craft or complex object is reasonable as well. Human sensory perception in extreme circumstances can be flawed. Mechanical sensory data is more reliable but still can be prone to error or misinterpretation. A mysterious object can look mysterious if it's very very far away, and it can look like it's going fast if the vehicle we're recording it from is also going very very fast.
Could you record a balloon or a bird or a commercial drone in extreme circumstances and have it appear like the current recordings of UAPs? If the answer is "yes", then we can't rule it out, and if we can't rule it out, then it's entirely possible that these mysterious things could just be normal things.
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Great train of thought/analysis.
On point
Hence i chose to share at least the first 30min of the Ethical Skeptic. Seems your way of approach is quite similar despite his resume.²⁶
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sono
Gold Member
A baloon or UAP cant travel 6 miles in a second. be stationary in 100+Kt wind or go from 20000 to 80000 feet etc, so the answer you are looking for is in fact no
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
That wasn't the question. Can some mundane object be recorded in extreme or unusual circumstances so that it looks like it does?
sono
Gold Member
If it suits a rationale or belief system your brain can accept.
We are talking about many state of the art radar recordings linked to.pilot testimony photographic and video evidence but suit yourself
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
One sign that a question is making you uncomfortable is if I ask a "yes or no" question, and your answer is two full sentences long and contains neither a "yes" or a "no".
Romulus
Member
The issue is multiple layers of corroboration and intelligence. It's not just one pilot, but 4. It's not just 4 pilots but radar and the radar operator, video, and sonar. Is there a way the radar, video, sonar, and all the pilots are wrong/glitches while corroborating each other? Which also happens to corroborate other completely separate events that have been under investigation in different nations decades before.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Yes, if they're all corroborating wrong/inaccurate/misinterpreted/inconconclusive data. If they all agree that they've experienced something they cannot explain, and all they have to show for it are aberrant readings and unclear video, all they did was corroborate that they experienced an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon, which is all that it is until shown otherwise. There is no logical justification to conclude anything more far reaching than that.
Romulus
Member
Something that is wrong is a misinterpretation or inaccuracy. Inconclusive is what the entire case is and the reason it's being studied.
Making a logical justification for what it is was not my intention or possible. I can lean or have an opinion, but that's not the same. My personal conclusion is that it isn't a balloon or some mundane explanation. This is much of the reason Congress is having hearings. And not just in Congress in the US, but in nations all over the world.
Why is the radar reading aberrant?
Why would the video being unclear matter when it was described as completely featureless? To fulfill curiosity? I know I would like to see it. But the reason for bringing up the video was that the object was there and they corroborates the pilot's account of a solid object. That's relevant on top of everything else and not meant to prove "aliens."
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sono
Gold Member
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
sono
as I said before, that's not the answer to the question I asked.Another sign that a question is making you uncomfortable is if your response is not actually an answer to the question asked of you.
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MMaRsu
Banned
Niet echt he
MMaRsu
Banned
Wow. Stop pushing your dumbass rules on the conversation and inferring behavioural traits by those rules posed.
What makes me uncomfortable is you pretending to be super smart. Just come out with the answers you want to hear, instead of driveling out nonsense.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I don't think it's a dumbass rule to expect a "yes or no" answer to a "yes or no" question. This is how reasonable discourse is supposed to operate.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Until I get a photo (a real photo, not the kind of blurry fest the aficionados deal in) I’m in the camp that governments are using this to keep people from looking at the sky to find secret planes. It’s just too useful.
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nee zeker niet echt
MMaRsu
Banned
Sorry but this is just dumb.
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Leuk voor je?
MMaRsu
Banned
Yeah its hilarious seeing your posts, their dumb as hell
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Glad you find some entertainment in my posts
Can you stop quoting me now, you are kind of a cunt
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