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[Exentryk]

Kitase and team explained the new ATB tactical combat system of Final Fantasy VII Remake at E3 2019.

- Cloud attacks, dodges and blocks in real time
- ATB bars fill up over time and by standard attacks
- Can use tactical mode once ATB bar is full which stops time and lets Cloud plan his moves (like use abilities, spells, items, or issue commands to other party members)
- Can issue commands to other party members via L2/R2.
- Using items will use up an ATB bar
- Magic requires having a materia equipped
- Can switch between characters in real time via Up/Down buttons
- Enemies have a focus gauge which fills up as damage is dealt. Once full, enemies gets staggered and take higher damage

 

[wzy]

I hope to god that's not the real battle music.

 

[Nymphae]

It seems like a nice flow, basic hack and slash builds towards faster ATB charge for Tactical Mode, which allows you to slow down and does it's best to evoke the old systems. I like what I've seen so far.

 

[Animagic]

I hope to god that's not the real battle music.

It’s gotta be placeholder or something...

 

[Exentryk]

Yeah, I like the tactical mode option. And the fact that it's optional. So people that just want fast paced hack and slash can have their cake too, while the turn-based fans can enjoy a more slower paced and calculated approach.

 

[wzy]

It’s gotta be placeholder or something...

It's definitely some kind of medley that's new for FF7R. I'm sure I heard a version of Those Who Fight Further that should absolutely not exist in a good timeline but there's also Bombing Mission and some other shit in there. Pretty bad sign when the MIDI sequencer from 20 years ago sounds more dynamic and vibrant than a whole goddamn orchestra, but that's kind of how things are scored now. You're not supposed to notice the music.

 

[The Shepard]

Combat looks awesome, so good. Game looks amazing overall and I'm well on the hype train after this e3.

 

[Danjin44]

What I like about it is there is no FFXV BS combat system that you have hold to attack or dodge which felt clunky and unsatisfying and tactical mode nice feature.

 

[kevin_trinh]

Imagine FF follow Dragon Quest footstep lmao. Ff3 will really be “final fantasy”

 

[JimiNutz]

They've done a fantastic job with this.

My experience with the entire Final Fantasy franchise amounts to about 6 hours playtime with the original FFVII on PS1 back in the late 90s. I just couldn't enjoy the turn based combat and dropped it.

I've tried a few turn based systems since (Pokemon, Paper Mario, South Park) and I find them all boring. This game actually looks like something I can play and may end up being the first JRPG and Final Fantasy game that I play for a significant amount of time.

 

[shark sandwich]

Yeah, I like the tactical mode option. And the fact that it's optional. So people that just want fast paced hack and slash can have their cake too, while the turn-based fans can enjoy a more slower paced and calculated approach.

It sounds awesome. Action-based combat for basic attacks/combos/dodging combined with some “real time with pause” menu-based system for using spells and specials. Plus a system where you can break an enemy’s defense like in XIII.

 

[sendit]

Wonder what the diehard turn based fans think of this. This looks seriously awesome IMO.

 

[Typhares]

Oh I am positively surprised! This looks really good!

 

[Psykodad]

Wonder what the diehard turn based fans think of this. This looks seriously awesome IMO.

I hope there'll be at least a bit less meltdowns.

 

[Orenji Neko]

It looks good. As for “turn based”, only FF 1, 2, 3, and 10 are actually such. The rest are active time but still command based. What I have seen of FFVII Remake seems to really bridge the action and the commands much, much better and it looks far more engaging than FFXV’s sloppy fights.

I’d even go so far to say that if this system turns out as good as it looks, it makes an excellent template for FF going forward, much like FFIV did all the way up to IX. (Obviously with tweaks here and there to suit the character growth and ability system variations, etc)

 

[JohnSpartanLee]

Ingenious idea. So it's much more than just Crisis Core 2.

 

[AlexxKidd]

Wonder what the diehard turn based fans think of this. This looks seriously awesome IMO.

Diehard fan base here, this is the greatest thing I've ever seen.

 

[Mihos]

What is a good game pad with rapid fire on the square button?

 

[sublimit]

Like i said in the other thread the combat looks much more tactical and interesting now but the in-combat pointless chatter annoys me.

 

[Mista]

As a TB fan, I admit that what I saw was good. Im a sucker for anything FF apart from that utter garbage FFXV: tactical espionage action

 

[shark sandwich]

Like i said in the other thread the combat looks much more tactical and interesting now but the in-combat pointless chatter annoys me.

Having recently played Tales of Vesperia and XC2:Torna, FFVII-R’s battle chatter seems subtle and understated in comparison.

 

[sublimit]

Having recently played Tales of Vesperia and XC2:Torna, FFVII-R’s battle chatter seems subtle and understated in comparison.

Oh no. And i was planning to buy Vesperia soon.

 

[TLZ]

Dare I say, this actually feels like the right evolution from the very old turn based style. I like the freedom and the tactical aspect of it, that still feels turn based.

 

[Touch fuzZy. get BizZay]

Looks super pretty. If they can break their habit of making really bad real time combat systems, that will be very exciting.

I honestly can't tell from watching if this will be bad or not, but there's hope.

 

[Myths]

I Don’t mind the padding to access a sub-menu for tactical purposes, it’s the good kind of padding

 

[Queso de Grande]

This combat looks really fun. It seems like a mix of turn based with Crisis core.

 

[wvnative]

Oh my god I almost passed out during the presentation. This was more or less the combat system I imagined.

 

[shark sandwich]

This combat looks really fun. It seems like a mix of turn based with Crisis core.

My favorite JRPGs are the ones that aren’t pure action-based, but rather they mix elements of real-time and turn-based/menu-based.

E.g. Xenoblade series and Final Fantasy XII/XIII/XIV

So needless to say I’m super excited for this

 

[D.Final]

Kitase and team explained the new ATB tactical combat system of Final Fantasy VII Remake at E3 2019.

- Cloud attacks, dodges and blocks in real time
- ATB bars fill up over time and by standard attacks
- Can use tactical mode once ATB bar is full which stops time and lets Cloud plan his moves (like use abilities, spells, items, or issue commands to other party members)
- Can issue commands to other party members via L2/R2.
- Using items will use up an ATB bar
- Magic requires having a materia equipped
- Can switch between characters in real time via Up/Down buttons
- Enemies have a focus gauge which fills up as damage is dealt. Once full, enemies gets staggered and take higher damage

Excellent analysis

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