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First Images from 'Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim'... It's a Fire Emblem anime
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I'm always up for more LOTR so I'm down.
RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
Looks like shite anime bollocks, was hoping for a more western look
jshackles
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From the Entertainment Weekly article, regarding the films' antagonist:
So the bad guy has modern motivations, and is relatable in a good way?
Ugh modern movies are just the worst.
So the bad guy has modern motivations, and is relatable in a good way?
Ugh modern movies are just the worst.
Oberstein
Member
From the Entertainment Weekly article, regarding the films' antagonist:
So the bad guy has modern motivations, and is relatable in a good way?
Ugh modern movies are just the worst.
Ouch, that's probably the worst thing to expect: to draw shitty parallels with the present day.
They can't do much worse than Rings of Power, but hey, you never know.
We'll see what the trailer sounds like when it arrives. I still want to believe it.
Slothbeing1209
Member
Looking good!
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
From the Entertainment Weekly article, regarding the films' antagonist:
So the bad guy has modern motivations, and is relatable in a good way?
Ugh modern movies are just the worst.
I had a feeling this would be a further insult to Tolkien's legacy.
I dread to think where they're going with this fan fiction bollocks.
Well, if his "modern motivation" is to smash that redhead with the force of a thousand suns, I agree!!!From the Entertainment Weekly article, regarding the films' antagonist:
So the bad guy has modern motivations, and is relatable in a good way?
Ugh modern movies are just the worst.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
The perfect combination or a betrayal? It's up to you to decide.
Is this one of those "Western Anime" pretending to be a Japanese Anime?
The_hunter
Member
It's done by a Japanese studio and director, but it's likely a 3D anime.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
That's a surprise
Considering 3D anime most of the time look horrible in motion especially
But than these are still images. Let's see how it looks in motion
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ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
WB and Jackson only have the rights to the LOTR texts. This is all Weta with John Howe and Alan Lee back. It’s 250 years before the trilogy and about Helm Hammerhand. Miranda Otto is back as Eowyn as the narrator.
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NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
The director is Kenji Kamiyama, who did Ghost in the Shell Standalone Complex. Thats pretty sick
Unknown Soldier
Member
I had no idea it was even animated but I'm interested
As long as it's not super woke I'm in
As long as it's not super woke I'm in
Doom85
Member
He also directed Eden of the East and Moribito: Guardian of the Spirit. Dude’s got a pretty respectable resume.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Yes. As I said. Fan fiction.
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
Guess what? Jackson's LOTR was fan fiction too.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
How so?
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AJUMP23
Member
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
Arwen was set dressing in the book. Aragorn was completely different, as was Faramir. They omitted the Scouring, which Tolkien felt was VERY important to the themes of his book, for a happy ending. Lots more. But people love the movies and reactionary YouTube didn’t exist back then.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
That doesn't make the LOTR fins fan fiction.
Every novel that is adapted will have to make changes. The important thing is if the adaptation still respects the original authors vision, and with the PJ trilogy it more or less does that. Probably the best anybody could do.
The Hobbit was different. Yes, adapting a book, but so much more new content and new characters were added that it might as well have been fan fiction.
Rings of Power is fan faction that completely disrespects Tolkien because it has very little source material and is forced to create new content.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Phillipa Boyens is the producer for this.
It isn't going to be like the Amazon shit.
I don't know whether it's going to be good or not, but she's the woman who co-wrote Jackson's movies.
It isn't going to be like the Amazon shit.
I don't know whether it's going to be good or not, but she's the woman who co-wrote Jackson's movies.
AJUMP23
Member
I agree with both of you. I would not call the Jackson movies fan fiction. I think they try hard to hold true to the original work.
Although in the Book it was Gandalf that said to go through Moria, not Gimli....Gimli was eager to go. Aragorn did not want to go, but Gandalf said it would be fine after the mountain issue.
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
Jackson is producing it as well.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
No reason to hate this yet. Could be good.
This is most certainly gonna be "Fan fiction" in the sense that the writers are taking Tolkeins words and themes and extrapolating their own story, almost entirely separate from what he wrote.
From (https://ew.com/lord-rings-war-rohirrim-anime-meet-hero-villain-exclusive-8661309)
"“In the appendices where the story is drawn from, we get these quite interestingly drawn male characters, and then we get this young female character who is never named — and that was really interesting to me,” Boyens says. “We know Helm has a daughter, and we know that she was central to the conflict that happened. But myself, and especially screenwriter Phoebe Gittins, were drawn to her. We could feel the weight of being that unnamed daughter, which immediately piqued our interest: Who was she? How did she live?”
So I screen shotted all the appendices they reference, which is about 4 pages in total. Now unlike the Hunt for Gollum, which is about 80 words in total, here at least we get a little bit of dialogue but that "daughter, central to the story" they reference, yeah, she is literally the macguffin to get the ball rolling, ain't central to jack shit. While it looks to be an interesting story, it's pretty clear that daughter was tangential at best to the struggle between Helm and Wulf. She isn't a Helen of Troy type figure, and IMHO it defeats the purpose and themes of the story as written if they try to make some sort of romantic relationship between Wulf and "Hera" or have her significantly involved in some way over Haleth and Hama, his son's.
Spoiler warning, I guess, as I assume the broad strokes will be followed.
From (https://ew.com/lord-rings-war-rohirrim-anime-meet-hero-villain-exclusive-8661309)
"“In the appendices where the story is drawn from, we get these quite interestingly drawn male characters, and then we get this young female character who is never named — and that was really interesting to me,” Boyens says. “We know Helm has a daughter, and we know that she was central to the conflict that happened. But myself, and especially screenwriter Phoebe Gittins, were drawn to her. We could feel the weight of being that unnamed daughter, which immediately piqued our interest: Who was she? How did she live?”
So I screen shotted all the appendices they reference, which is about 4 pages in total. Now unlike the Hunt for Gollum, which is about 80 words in total, here at least we get a little bit of dialogue but that "daughter, central to the story" they reference, yeah, she is literally the macguffin to get the ball rolling, ain't central to jack shit. While it looks to be an interesting story, it's pretty clear that daughter was tangential at best to the struggle between Helm and Wulf. She isn't a Helen of Troy type figure, and IMHO it defeats the purpose and themes of the story as written if they try to make some sort of romantic relationship between Wulf and "Hera" or have her significantly involved in some way over Haleth and Hama, his son's.
Spoiler warning, I guess, as I assume the broad strokes will be followed.
AJUMP23
Member
Aren't these two married to each other?
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
No Peter and Fran are married. Philippa is a friend.
She’s the main producer. Jackson is also a producer who checked in on it while he was doing his documentaries and overseeing the 4K releases.
They’re both producing and she’s writing Gollum.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
Phillipa Boyens also did the screenplay for the Hobbit movies and Mortal Engines.
Looking at who's doing the screenplay for this film it's:
Phoebe Gittins. I had to look her up, but she is the daughter of Phillipa Boyens and hasn't had a major writing gig before.
Arty Papageorgiou - again no real history to her name. This appears to be her first major writing job.
I get people have to start somewhere, but the team at the moment isn't filling me with confidence.
Doom85
Member
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
Given the history of Hollywood over the last 15 or so years? I have zero faith.
Hell, look at what happened to the Castlevania anime. They turned the characters into literal fucking cucks!
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
Unknown Soldier
Member
LMAO you actually are insane huh
NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
For what it's worth, when I read LotR I certainly don't picture Middle Earth or it's characters anything like how Jackson portrayed most of them.
Frodo is too young and lacks Book Frodo's book-learnedness
Sam is too smart. He's far more dumber and peasanty in the book
Merry is too much of a bumpkin. He's much more like an Edwardian middle-class englishmen
Pippin is too dumb. In the book, he's just young. He acts like a teenager, not an idiot.
Aragorn is too self-loathing. He was proud of his Numenorean heritage in the novel and strove to become king so he could marry his elf cousin
Boromir didn't really have a personality, except he was proud
Gimli is just an over-eager dwarf looking to fuck shit up in the novel
Legolas is more smoother in the novel. Not some bad ass. In fact, Tolkien explicitly says he achieved the least out of all the fellowship.
Sauron was not just a big flaming eyeball
Denethor sucks in the movie. He was a competent leader in the novel and did his best to prepare Gondor's defenses but gives into despair
Closest character is Gandalf.
Unknown Soldier
Member
I've read the LOTR books multiple times myself. I think there is a big difference between adjusting character traits for a big budget Hollywood movie and completely making shit up out of nothing such as for example The RIngs of Power which is what fan fiction actually is. The OG LOTR Trilogy is an adaptation of the existing novels, to claim they are fan fiction is absolutely insane
Peter Jackson stayed very true to the story of the books and was widely praised for it, and in hindsight after we got things like the Hobbit Trilogy and The Rings of Power the OG LOTR Trilogy stands out even more for being so close to the books in both story events and spirit
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ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
I recently re-watched Bakshi’s and it’s shocking how much more like the book it is after 20 years with Jackson’s.
NecrosaroIII
Ultimate DQ Fan
For sure. There is a lot of "wack" things about it, but other things are good. I rather like the look of it sometimes
Musashipan
Member
I like the style.
Reminds me of Lodoss War a bit!
Reminds me of Lodoss War a bit!
SirTerry-T
Gold Member
Both anime sucked
Moribito was great. A good adaptation of the source material, Production I.G at the top of their game, beautiful score and with a fantastic lead character.
The only thing it lacked was having a few more scenes like this...