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Florida Man Says He Killed Sick Wife Because He Couldnt Afford Her Medicine
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It's instant I guess.
Inferno313
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I can't imagine being one of those daughters and getting that phonecall in the middle of the night, jesus.
If I were to go, doing it in my sleep instantly without any conscious, pain or suffering would be my preferable way.
Ninja Scooter
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Umm, like, I feel for him if this is true but you can't go around doing that.
Robdraggoo
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No Medicare?
Why?
Why?
InfiniteBento
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I understand why he did it and its tragic beyond belief but thats still fucked up.
I don't agree with it coming to that, but not being able to pay for medical care and medication is death sentence and euthanasia isn't legal in Florida. It's just a really sad reality for some people.
Rheumatoid arthritis can be very debilitating and expensive. There's a woman who get's injections for hers that cost about $4500 per visit. She gets them every 8 weeks. Not sure how much medicare covers if it does at all, but shit gets expensive fast.
we can't even get obamacare implemented in all 50 states and you think universal healthcare is feasible at this moment?
Nothing to see here people! Just move along and keep pretending that our medical situation in this country is perfectly fine and those that have issues with are just lazy scam artists that want free stuff!
Medicare won't pay for all of your prescriptions, especially the pricier ones.
edit: I am NOT defending this dude or his actions! I am just sympathic to the fact that there are people out there that are struggling this much to even consider something similar.
Medicare won't pay for all of your prescriptions, especially the pricier ones.
edit: I am NOT defending this dude or his actions! I am just sympathic to the fact that there are people out there that are struggling this much to even consider something similar.
Ninja Scooter
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I just mean that it creates the situation where we don't really know for sure if this woman wanted to die, or if he took it upon himself to decide that for her, or worse, killed her for other reasons and is using sympathy as a front. Not sure it leaves prosecutors with any choice but to treat him as a murderer. Does the article mention if she at least left behind a note or something?
Doctor Bat
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This is the reality conservatives want to defend. Rather this than endorse anything vaguely resembling a socialist concept like the NHS.
Definitely sounds like this dude took actions into his own hands and she wasn't complicit. Extremely fucked up and sad, and obviously the dude is either under extreme stress or is (more likely) not mentally sound.
Mr. Giggles
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This.
Isn't the point of Obamacare to help people in this situation.
Cant read the article right now
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nvm, I've read a few posts above, shit this is messed up
Article doesn't mention it so at this time we don't know. If he took it in his own hands without her input, then I definitely feel way less sympathy for him but still saddened that the medical burden of his wife's aliments pushed him in that direction.
Any Questions
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As a Brit I think thank goodness for the NHS. Even with its problems it's nothing like this.
However I am not sure we need the Florida man concept added to this rather sad and depressing story.
A man killed his wife because hospital bills are a fix and rigged is more appropriate I think
However I am not sure we need the Florida man concept added to this rather sad and depressing story.
A man killed his wife because hospital bills are a fix and rigged is more appropriate I think
Cat in the Hat
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How would you kill someone you love?
It's violent, certainly. But she died instantly, in her sleep. I'm not sure there is a way to kill someone in a way that not "unfriendly", if it's not their wish. But it was...humane? I'm not sure if that's the right word given the circumstance.
This is a heartbreaking story. The bankruptcy filing, the 80 year old man working at Sears to try and pay for over priced medication for his wife of nearly 50 years (at that time). The slow decent into desperation, defeat, and ultimately, premeditated murder. Goddamn.
From the lack of mention, the method used, and the overall framing of the story, it doesn't sound like it was with her content. No note from the wife, he does not appear to mention it as the reason, and he shot her in her sleep.
family_guy
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I would have rather used the gun to rob a store and then pay for the medicine.
Unknown One
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This story is sad all around. What he did was wrong, but given his situation, I could see why he felt like he had to do it.
It may not be feasible but we desperately need it. It'll take another generation of "better-dead-than-red" old people to die but we will have universal health care. In the meantime, how many of these horror stories with the American health care system will we suffer, how much death, how many bankruptcies? It's disgusting.
Sad and highlights how bad the US healthcare is.
Yep, though the Tories are trying to break it apart piece by piece.
Yep, though the Tories are trying to break it apart piece by piece.
Yep not passing judgment either way regarding this situation, but I can totally understand how it could happen.
TimeEffect
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You know, I was very sympathetic.. but not only did he shoot her, which seems so incredibly cold... but I'm wondering if the wife even agreed to this?
This isn't a Florida man type story. Damn.
Baroquemantic
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Jeez that's depressing.
It churns my guts when someone kills their family and all the sympathy goes to the murderer. This happens a lot with older or disabled family members, and my reaction is sadness at their vulnerability. Needing care, even extraordinary care, shouldn't be a death sentence.
Frankfurter
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That's just depressing to read.
I have empathy to this story, at least according to what's been articulated so far.
How would one handle the suffering of another person when society quite literally fails you to help them in any meaningful way? How do you alleviate suffering when your attempt at alleviating it is futile? I know if I was in that situation as the illed woman, I would have asked to be euthanized, legally or not. There's no helpful out other than opting out, and that should speak consistently to the problems of American health "care", for you can make a list where opting out is better than trying to assimilate to a shitty, overpriced, unfair, unegalitarian, and greedy framework.
If health care is about empathy and trying to alleviate the pain of people we coexist with, America has failed this, and any argument otherwise is apologetics in today's climate. There's no way to spin this, other than admitting it's a failure of a system, and going into detail where it's rotten and needs to be burned to ashes. When people have to crowdfund campaign their illnesses or kill their loved ones, only sadists can justify the system that produces these responses.
How would one handle the suffering of another person when society quite literally fails you to help them in any meaningful way? How do you alleviate suffering when your attempt at alleviating it is futile? I know if I was in that situation as the illed woman, I would have asked to be euthanized, legally or not. There's no helpful out other than opting out, and that should speak consistently to the problems of American health "care", for you can make a list where opting out is better than trying to assimilate to a shitty, overpriced, unfair, unegalitarian, and greedy framework.
If health care is about empathy and trying to alleviate the pain of people we coexist with, America has failed this, and any argument otherwise is apologetics in today's climate. There's no way to spin this, other than admitting it's a failure of a system, and going into detail where it's rotten and needs to be burned to ashes. When people have to crowdfund campaign their illnesses or kill their loved ones, only sadists can justify the system that produces these responses.
mrmickfran
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I don't think that anyone would want to put any thought into this question.
ThatStupidLion
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poor guy. that had to have been the hardest thing hes ever done or even thought about doing.
i wonder if the wife gave the a-okay prior
i wonder if the wife gave the a-okay prior
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
When people are put into impossible situations, there's no way out except by transgressing the boundaries of the same society that allowed the no-win circumstance to arise in the first place.
Well, the legal medically approved way is to let them starve to death.
I don't buy that he had to shoot her for money alone. If the fiances were that dire, they could have tried to have her qualify for Medicaid on top of Medicare: https://www.agingcare.com/Articles/elderly-parent-qualify-for-medicaid-136276.htm
https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid-c...iors-and-medicare-and-medicaid-enrollees.html
https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid-c...iors-and-medicare-and-medicaid-enrollees.html
Aztechnology
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An inordinate amount of money is spent by families in the last year's of life disproportionately in the last 30 days or so. It's extremely sad and nobody should be put out to pasture in that way, certainly not without consent in what potential equates to a blatant murder. But basically I'd want to option to kill myself at that point in my life. On my own terms (Not saying she did). But I think it's a discussion that needs to be had. If my medical bills are wracking up to the point I'll pass on nothing to my family and they are foolishly throwing money at a really non fixable problem then I'd want to pass away while I could give them more.
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