The Shepard
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I hope so, I'm waiting till the PS5/ps4 update on ps5 edition before I buy.
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I hope so, I'm waiting till the PS5/ps4 update on ps5 edition before I buy.
Insane Metal
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Long time no see, Penello!
ethomaz
Banned
They pushed way over The Whitcher 3.
I’m glad for that.
But that generate issues in base consoles and now they need a good time to fix.
That is how it works.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
No, because at least for some games, optimisation does not mean to reach the target framerate, but to improve the visual fidelity while maintaining target framerate. Take a look at e.g. Super Mario 3D World's visuals from E3 and later. Also, some intermediate versions are already being optimised, for demos to present at trade fairs. Nintenod games usually run at a very stable 30 / 60 (depending on the game) at the show floor. Some developers do cheat with their videos though.
ethomaz
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Kenpachii
Member
Nothing i saw here screams next gen to me. Its made for current consoles. Game simple isn't done yet. If they where waiting for next gen to arrive because game wouldn't run on current boxes they would never announced it for PS4/xbox one and u would see a PC release.
Honestly it looks pretty dated already,
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JLMC469
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The city looks very dense though. CDPR mentioned they aren’t focusing on size (“that’s what she said”) but on density (explorable buildings, etc.).
nowhat
Member
In this case though, the game goes through a delay for Polish.
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This isn’t about software development or technology.
This is about CDPR, yet again, lying to its fan base. They do this, over and over.
Please... for the love of god... just tell it like it is. You hyped your game by showing unrealistic footage - something you’ve done before. The only way you’re going to run the game on the hardware you developed for is through a downgrade - something you’ve done before.
The only truly way to make your game work, the way you showed it, is by delaying it for the new consoles - but you won’t say this. Instead you just continue with the lies.
This is about CDPR, yet again, lying to its fan base. They do this, over and over.
Please... for the love of god... just tell it like it is. You hyped your game by showing unrealistic footage - something you’ve done before. The only way you’re going to run the game on the hardware you developed for is through a downgrade - something you’ve done before.
The only truly way to make your game work, the way you showed it, is by delaying it for the new consoles - but you won’t say this. Instead you just continue with the lies.
The Alien
Banned
I think it'll be a launch title for both next gen consoles. I want my hands on the game but releasing it months before a gen refresh wasnt a good idea.
Wild Speculation: Delay was announced 2 weeks after Microsoft visited studios in Poland. No Microsft isnt buying CDPR.....but I think they secured Cyberpunk as Day One GamePass exclusive at launch. That'd be a big bomb to drop. CDPR has a great relationship with Microsoft. Again, speculation, but pieces could fit.
DeepEnigma
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I think it'll be a launch title for both next gen consoles. I want my hands on the game but releasing it months before a gen refresh wasnt a good idea.
Wild Speculation: Delay was announced 2 weeks after Microsoft visited studios in Poland. No Microsft isnt buying CDPR.....but I think they secured Cyberpunk as Day One GamePass exclusive at launch. That'd be a big bomb to drop. CDPR has a great relationship with Microsoft. Again, speculation, but pieces could fit.
CDPR would lose so much goodwill from gamers not only on the PC, but consoles as well.
The once beloved dev house would be burned at the stake.
Quezacolt
Member
They already mentioned they dont want to make any exclusivity deals, they were asked about that before.I think it'll be a launch title for both next gen consoles. I want my hands on the game but releasing it months before a gen refresh wasnt a good idea.
Wild Speculation: Delay was announced 2 weeks after Microsoft visited studios in Poland. No Microsft isnt buying CDPR.....but I think they secured Cyberpunk as Day One GamePass exclusive at launch. That'd be a big bomb to drop. CDPR has a great relationship with Microsoft. Again, speculation, but pieces could fit.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Or they have bad aim.
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Stevonidas
Member
I would prefer they finished the incomplete game they already released.
In that case, how do you feel about standing beside the guy who‘s supposed to be shot?
The Alien
Banned
Still launch to everyone (PC, PS4, etc) on launch day. But itd be in Game Pass on launch.
CDPR said right from the start that the footage they showed would not necessarily be representative of the final product.
And yet even Ubisoft learned its lesson and doesn’t pull this shit anymore. I mean, wtf? Clearly this CDPR fucking with us again.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
The honest truth, and this comes from experience, is that determining how long its going to take to go from feature complete alpha to release candidate is very hard to predict.
Essentially a period of time is scheduled and you try to do what you can as a developer to live up to your publisher's obligations. But sometimes those bug databases take longer to work through than others because unlike movies, where you can just reshoot or patch-in the material that you need to, in a computer program everything is connected. So 1 fix can spawn 10 other bugs to squash, and 1 piece of bad code can create a host of seemingly unconnected phenomena.
The key thing is the above is just the mechanical component of the finalization process with a game. It disregards creative changes, tunings based on focus testing etc. Things that feed back into the code creating yet more bugs to fix.
Truthfully, most of the crunch endured in the industry is due to this part of development being simultaneously so chaotic yet absolutely crucial to the quality and reception of the end-product.
The best way I can describe it is to say that getting a game from design to feature-complete is like the training leading up to a fight. But the fight itself is that period between there to gold master. Everything is up for grabs, and no matter how well planned and organized the preparation, shit can happen.
Essentially a period of time is scheduled and you try to do what you can as a developer to live up to your publisher's obligations. But sometimes those bug databases take longer to work through than others because unlike movies, where you can just reshoot or patch-in the material that you need to, in a computer program everything is connected. So 1 fix can spawn 10 other bugs to squash, and 1 piece of bad code can create a host of seemingly unconnected phenomena.
The key thing is the above is just the mechanical component of the finalization process with a game. It disregards creative changes, tunings based on focus testing etc. Things that feed back into the code creating yet more bugs to fix.
Truthfully, most of the crunch endured in the industry is due to this part of development being simultaneously so chaotic yet absolutely crucial to the quality and reception of the end-product.
The best way I can describe it is to say that getting a game from design to feature-complete is like the training leading up to a fight. But the fight itself is that period between there to gold master. Everything is up for grabs, and no matter how well planned and organized the preparation, shit can happen.
mortal
Gold Member
Damn. Who shat in your coffee?
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mortal
Gold Member
Let's be honest here, we'd all much rather not get a buggy and broken mess if given the choice. It's a bit disappointing having to wait a little longer than what was expected initially, but this is virtually painless compared to what developers themselves have to endure in production. I just hope the people working on CP 2077 won't loose their sanity and come out the other side with the most optimized and solid game by launch.
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FUBARx89
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I can believe it runs like crap. It's a pretty ambitious title and witcher 2 was a miracle to come out on the xbox 360.
Even witcher 3 runs like arse to this day on ps4 and xbox 1 and with the stuff they've added to the engine and graphics system I can see it struggling on this gen unless they do major cut backs.
Eitherway, ill wait for the inevitable next gen port now.
Even witcher 3 runs like arse to this day on ps4 and xbox 1 and with the stuff they've added to the engine and graphics system I can see it struggling on this gen unless they do major cut backs.
Eitherway, ill wait for the inevitable next gen port now.
RPSleon
Member
They have specifically said the launch xbox one is causing them the headaches here.
alabtrosMyster
Banned
Optimisation of memory and CPU to make all the 124 genders is hard on those jaguar cores!
Any time you show a vertical slice of gameplay from a title that is 2 years out, it is going to be partly smoke and mirrors. Eg. The A.I in the Doom Eternal reveal wasn't balanced yet, so they had to play the game in a way that made it look like the enemies were posing a challenge.
The question is whether it is better show subject-to-change footage, or to show nothing at all.
