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Gran Turismo 6 |OT| Moon Rover The Castle
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https://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-6-sales-revealed-at-2-37-million-copies/
GT6 sold 2.37M copies.
That puts the slow updates on missing content/features in GT6 and the silence surrounding GT7 into a different perspective. I am surprised to see it so low but maybe GT6 actually was the wake-up call the vocal minority wanted it to be.
GT6 sold 2.37M copies.
That puts the slow updates on missing content/features in GT6 and the silence surrounding GT7 into a different perspective. I am surprised to see it so low but maybe GT6 actually was the wake-up call the vocal minority wanted it to be.
GT's got a lot more competition now but I still think GT7 will be a mega-seller on the PS4.
brotkasten
Member
It definitely will be. I'm just praying to Kaz for G27 support. He has to include it somehow and I don't care how. I feel like if PD gets the wheel to work, it won't be with FFB.
SolidSnakex
Member
The only thing they can do is attempt to do something like what's happened with last-gen MadCatz sticks. MadCatz hasn't added PS4 support for their sticks, but someone created drivers for them anyway to get them to work. Because it's clear as day now that Logitech isn't going to add support for any wheels before the G29. They expect us to pay $400 for a wheel where the only real upgrade to it is that there's more resistance on the brake pedal.
Goldrusher
Member
PS VIta release before PS4 release... um... no.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
Massive bomba... now please stop dicking about and give me Course Maker.
I'm all sorted now, I forgot I'd swapped the system kernel which made all retail firmwares incompatible, but it was too late. I had already wiped the hdd clean and now I suffer the Polyphony install torture
I'm all sorted now, I forgot I'd swapped the system kernel which made all retail firmwares incompatible, but it was too late. I had already wiped the hdd clean and now I suffer the Polyphony install torture
SolidSnakex
Member
The PS3 has a massive userbase, so they were just looking at that. No one knew that the PS3's floor would drop from under it the second the PS4 was released. It took everyone by surprise, which is why you still see last-gen games in development. Companies wouldn't have even bothered had they known how PS3 games would perform now.
The whole situation makes me wonder if PD will just go one and done this generation with GT. Drop GT7, give it lots of DLC support over the next several years, while working on GT8 for the PS5 on the side.
Yeah of course. I'm not against realeasing games late in a console cycle. Keyword late, not days after a highly hyped console debuts. I have no doubt Sony planned to realease GT6 6 months before the PS4 launch, but due to Kaz polishing the game, it took longer than expected.
Yeah that seems to be the case. I think driveclub will be the first to adopt this model. Breaking them as "seasons" or such.
Hahah
This is gold.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Its okay. They used Chartz numbers for GT sales.....GT6 may be closer to that course maker than you think xD
thesuperfunk
Member
I thought the original source of the numbers was from the court documents in the ongoing Virag litigation case against SCEA though?
SolidSnakex
Member
Start here
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=177462494&postcount=403
Basically someone on GTplanet did some searching and discovered that these were actually the numbers VIRAG presented to the court for GT's numbers. They just took GT's total number from Polyphony's site and combined them with what that banned site had for the sales of GT6 at the time.
SolidSnakex
Member
Someone finally translated some of Polyphony's job listings...and they're pretty interesting.The ones that will interest people the most are
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Wax Free Vanilla
Member
2 must be linked to the flag sets found in GT6, iirc, those three and F1, plus hazard flags were listed.
refresher:
With the oil flag surely mechanical failures are in the pipeline with the racing cars?
3 must be the AES?
refresher:
With the oil flag surely mechanical failures are in the pipeline with the racing cars?
3 must be the AES?
SolidSnakex
Member
Yeah, we've been teased with rules for various race types for some time, so it'd be huge if it finally happens. That alone would dramatically change the career mode. It'd actually allow for them to make seasons.
Also, does anyone else feel this could be about outsourcing?
Also, does anyone else feel this could be about outsourcing?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Its vague. I mean are they collaborating on the actual development of the game? Is it within SCE?
SolidSnakex
Member
Either one of those would be a big change for them. From what we know they never work with anyone else. That means internal at Sony or external. We're already seeing some big changes considering they're hiring western devs as well as devs known for working on other racing properties. They also recently did a CEDEC tech presentation, which is super rare for them. And then there's the PitStop blog. I'd imagine that it's going to be much more active once GT7 is announced. They obviously can't talk about much regarding GT right now since pretty much anything they said would be about GT7. Which leads to them often posting about event related stuff like GT Academy and the Nurburgring 24h.
There are local SCE branches that are somewhat called "GT Production" in both SCEA/SCEE. Also, they are working with companies (such as suspension company for GT6 or various car collecting companies/private collectors) for various purposes.
I see the language remaining greatest obstacle, simply because everything in PD is internalised and done on their propietary tools which are all in Japanese. I do not think it is outsourcing (as seen in FM production), but more in light of collaborations they embark on constantly.
I do not see anything released for both GT6/GT7 until it is 100% ready, certified and internally scheduled for release.
Noone has any idea about what past 36 months have been for PD, so I do not see anything being released ever again before they want it to and they say it is ready for release.
Whoah... no game-asset screenshots, previews or marketing at all for GT7 until the game is ready to go gold? Has any dev ever been that bold before?
I don't think that's what he meant...
AbandonedTrolley
Member
The game everyone knows is coming, but no one knows how good it will look or sound.
You might be right. Amar?
Do you mean no-one, except you? As in, people generally don't appreciate (or know) what's happened?
I wonder if with their new sound method they'll finally stop faking the engine sounds in trailers.
That is not what I said.
When I said "noone", I didn't mean literally "no one". But generally, public usually have no idea what is going on in production internally (not just PD), and it is best that way IMO
Yeah, sorry for the misinterpretation. You understand it could be read that way though?
SolidSnakex
Member
Sure, but it really wouldn't make sense from a marketing perspective to just announce a game once it's finished. They're just going to want it to be like GT6 was when it was announced. Where it was at a point where they knew a timeframe that it would absolutely be released in. They don't want another GT5 situation on their hands. And if you look at that GT7 rumor thread, or nearly any thread related to GT, it's clear why. Because every time one pops up you have a crowd of people that jump in with "LOL LOL, it's not coming out to 2019/2020 etc." all because of a single game.
Nothing would surprise me with PD's marketing plans for GT7, and with Amar being an insider I just figured PD were fed up of the shitstorm that Delaygate caused and had decided to trade on their rep and bank on the love of their fans and not release any media until the game was ready.
You never know, it might be an awesome marketing strategy. But who would have the stones to do it..?
SolidSnakex
Member
Well, they're going to need a marketing window to push it. You don't stealth release a major title like GT. And just having it sitting around for months until you get the marketing up to speed is dangerous just from a standpoint of how big that Day 1 patch is going to be.
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
GT Sport is the new GT Academy.
SolidSnakex
Member
Nope. Kaz was asked about it at the recent Peugeot event and said he couldn't talk about it right now. I think they've likely just moved it to the PS4. They could use it as a demo for GT7. It's better suited for GT7 anyway since they could have more tracks that are FIA certified. As of GT6 only Suzuka, Brands Hatch, Silverstone, and Bathurst are certified.
I don't know if this article from the FIA's Auto publication was ever covered in detail. From Issue #8, Q3 2014 (pdf):
Also some new Hyundai N 2025 Vision Gran Turismo teasers, http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/news/00_5096083.html
- FIA & PD partnership has two-fold aim, promote motor sport safety and encourage youth participation in motor sport
- Track homologation started late 2013. Silverstone, Suzuka, Brands Hatch and Bathurst first to meet the FIA’s standards. “Spa-Francorchamps and Le Mans will be next but they still need a small amount of work.”
- On Polyphony Digital’s data capture methods:
Jacques Berger said: - FIA will promote safety by grading tracks, with warnings displayed as to a vehicle’s suitability or otherwise for particular circuits.
Jacques Berger said: - Virtual homologation will cover a three-year period, the same as for real world circuits. Homologation dates will be included.
Jacques Berger said:
So if Fuji was homolgated from late 2013, just under 2/3rds of the period have already past without use. Jeez PD…
- Yamauchi says online FIA GT Championship is not designed to be a driver discovery programme, but a means of making motor sport accessible to as many people as possible, through accurate simulations.
Jacques Berger said:
Also some new Hyundai N 2025 Vision Gran Turismo teasers, http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/news/00_5096083.html
Interesting, thanks for posting.
I wonder what they mean by 'the computing power necessary', is that a veiled admission that they were having trouble getting it to work on the PS3?
I also kind of cringe when I think of how much of a clusterfuck the first running of the championship will be. I really hope there's some kind of skill restriction on entry.
SolidSnakex
Member
No reason to suspect that they wouldn't be. It's going to be around 30 cars when it's all said and done. Just tossing them out after GT6 seems like a waste.
Anyone think it'd be a good idea for PD to work with FIA in building the actual career mode in GT7? It seems like it'd be a nice step in a much more serious direction for that mode.
I'm all for a better simulation of motorsport format, rules, regulations etc in the GT series. It's something that continues to frustrate me with Forza.
Authenticity = good.
wowbaggerBR
Member
I for one would stop bitching about PD last efforts.
But after GT6, it seems very unlikely. They dumbed down the game a lot to entice casuals, so I don't see they trying the opposite in 7.
And Kaz might be looking at FM6's stellar reviews and thinking how Turn 10 appeal to the masses.