Well all the advertising sayas "Grey Goo: War is Evolved" That doesn't sound too bad...
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Well all the advertising sayas "Grey Goo: War is Evolved" That doesn't sound too bad...
CommandThrower
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On the fourth or fifth Goo mission on the campaign.
You run a gauntlet, and the mission throws
against you. Needless to say, I lost. Gotta rethink my attack plan.
You run a gauntlet, and the mission throws
two Hands of Ruk
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Grey Goo was what caught my eye in the fist place. Although that was only due to me be familiar with the theory/concept.
Best part of that Deus Ex fan sequel.
WETA Workshop did the CGI for Grey Goo http://www.gameinformer.com/games/g...lyph-and-weta-workshop-announce-grey-goo.aspx So there isn't any surprise that it looks awesome
Actually, the cinematics were done by Axis Animation it seems:
http://www.axisanimation.com/
Still quite good.
Interfectum
Member
For people who are saying the campaign is too hard, the best advice I can give is turtle up as quick as possible (walls, artillery, patrolling bombers) so you have some breathing room to build a massive offense. I've gone through the first five missions on hard like this.
Yeah, doing all that minus the building more walls. My problem is I never have enough offensive capabilities to hunt down the goo because I'm always focused on repairing/building defense.
Interfectum
Member
You can cheese it by using your Hand of Ruk(s) to hunt down and kill the Mother Goos one by one and heading back to base for repairs if need be.
You can also leave one Hand of Ruk at the base and set it to defend (or put on a "guard path") so it automatically bombs the shit out of any enemies that come close to your walls.
Deified Data
Banned
So what's the best Beta unit to garrison on wall pillars? I've tried commandos and predators but neither seem to have the attack range to deal with most threats attacking the wall they're garrisoned on. They'll just sit there while the pillar they're standing on gets destroyed. I really feel like utilizing wall garrisons is the key to success with the Beta but it's just not working for me.
I alternate between Predators and Guardians with an artillery piece behind them to deal with long range threats.
Guardians with the artillery upgrade works pretty well. You can alternate guardians w/ artillery and predators on your walls for dealing with long range and close range threats.
Remember you can put guardians on the ruk, (about 6 of them) meaning it'll auto destroy all the smaller units while you're hunting down goo nests and the mothers.
Yeah, just switched to easy and did that (I was too frustrated to try a normal run again). Probably will try again next time on normal. Ruk is so damn slow, it's hard to hunt down all the goo.
I guess I should go for the nests first with my 2nd Ruk + guardians.
Took me three tries, and it's the nests that really cause the issues as they are free units for the goo, all the mother goos are still semiresitricted in having to use resources to make combat goo. The nests are just monster closets.
Best to get the goo nests near your base with the first ruk, in my memory you can kill 1 or 2 of the nests from within your base with the starter ruk. if you have scouting to see them.
Even a single wall provides a lot of survivability for the mounted unit (plus easy repairs), and makes an acceptable turret. The problem with the Beta that makes them unsuited for defense IMO is the fact that the units on your walls eat up your popcap (I don't believe the human turrets do the same?).
Deified Data
Banned
Second and third mission down...I heard the 4th Beta mission was a pain in the ass? Guess I'll find out soon.
Interfectum
Member
Yeah I'm not sure if I'm getting used to the mechanics or what but I had a much easier time with the Human campaign. Maybe they are easier to turtle/cheese with because of their fantastic base defense capabilities.
Ghost_Messiah
Member
Damn I keep meaning to fire this up and check it out but time seems to keep escaping me. It does appear Petroglyph have finally created a critical hit given this game's quite impressive Metacritic. I'm really glad for them since they've struggled to find success since leaving Westwood/EA and going independent. From what I remember Universe At War was a competent game but a misfire both critically and commercially. I'm so glad Grey Goo is getting a better reception.
Anyway I have two questions before I try the game later:
1: Any word on how this game is performing sales-wise? I know the Steam rankings are quite impressive but do we have any sales numbers yet? Is this game a hit for Petroglyph? It's important because this will determine whether Grey Goo gets sequels and becomes a franchise (something that unfortunately didn't happen for their first game Universe At War).
2: How is the single player campaign? How does it compare to the Westwood games like old school CNC and more recently Starcraft 2? I watched the Giantbomb quick look and that left with me with a really positive impression. The game looks beautiful and has a stunning soundtrack. How does the single player campaign however compare to other examples of the genre?
Anyway I have two questions before I try the game later:
1: Any word on how this game is performing sales-wise? I know the Steam rankings are quite impressive but do we have any sales numbers yet? Is this game a hit for Petroglyph? It's important because this will determine whether Grey Goo gets sequels and becomes a franchise (something that unfortunately didn't happen for their first game Universe At War).
2: How is the single player campaign? How does it compare to the Westwood games like old school CNC and more recently Starcraft 2? I watched the Giantbomb quick look and that left with me with a really positive impression. The game looks beautiful and has a stunning soundtrack. How does the single player campaign however compare to other examples of the genre?
razzmahtazz
Member
The missions arent as epic or variable as say starcraft 2, but there are one or two missions per race that makes you think about how to properly use the race's unique playstyle to win.
grandwizard
Member
PCGamesN Review 9/10 http://www.pcgamesn.com/grey-goo/grey-goo-pc-review
Hard to say, it's lingered in the top sellers but I haven't seen a lot of forum and community activity. People that play multi say they haven't had trouble finding games though.
It's a pretty good campaign but it might feel a bit rushed due to going through 3 races in 15 missions. It's just as long if not longer than a regular RTS campaign but the fact you go through all three factions means it doesn't waste time giving you one new unit per mission, you ramp up quick and are at some really giant scale battles by the 4th and 5th mission in each side.
Hard to say, it's lingered in the top sellers but I haven't seen a lot of forum and community activity. People that play multi say they haven't had trouble finding games though.
It's a pretty good campaign but it might feel a bit rushed due to going through 3 races in 15 missions. It's just as long if not longer than a regular RTS campaign but the fact you go through all three factions means it doesn't waste time giving you one new unit per mission, you ramp up quick and are at some really giant scale battles by the 4th and 5th mission in each side.
Cool. They just added trading cards it seems (which matters to me and basically no one else).
I am going to pick it up tonight. An RTS with an emphasis on defense and heavy modding support? Yeah... that's about exactly my speed.
CommandThrower
Member
Holy shit, it took me an hour and a half to beat the fourth Goo misson(misson 14) on the campaign.
It was a slough, but looking back on it, there's an easy way to mitigate the difficulty:
Spoilering that just in case you folks want to be surprised by what you face, but help is in there just in case.
It was a slough, but looking back on it, there's an easy way to mitigate the difficulty:
The two biggest obstacles on this mission are the two Hands of Ruk that are put in your way, and the two cliffside bases that have Artillery Guardian-armed walls that chew through your units should you try to advance up there. Research the tech that makes it so your Crescent's shots can't be shot down by anti-air, and perch them on some cliffs or in brush alongside some Tempests for defense against air, and just wait for the walls to fall. The Hands of Ruk are handled by luring them into empty spaces and smothering them with a couple Mother Goos. After that, run roughshod on the Beta.
Spoilering that just in case you folks want to be surprised by what you face, but help is in there just in case.
Deified Data
Banned
Made it through Beta mission 4 with just a shred of health left on the Hand of Ruk.
That was a lot of goo.
Edit: On to mission 5. Hold the line for 15 minutes, I can do that! Walls breached, but we're so close. 15 minutes elapse...backup is one lousy Hand of Ruk. Welp.
That was a lot of goo.
Edit: On to mission 5. Hold the line for 15 minutes, I can do that! Walls breached, but we're so close. 15 minutes elapse...backup is one lousy Hand of Ruk. Welp.
abracadaver
Member
seems to be back in stock at G2A
Is it ok to buy from there? I heard they got their keys directly from the developers
Is it ok to buy from there? I heard they got their keys directly from the developers
Seems like they might be doing some shady stuff. Just a few days ago people who bought Farcry 4 from there had their keys deactivated by Ubisoft. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=979151
That's where I got my key from, was delivered instantly and have had no issue since.
I H8 Memes
Member
Game looks good and fun. But I'm not much of an rts player so I was wondering about the single player. Is the story mode good or is it just vs AI skirmishes weakly dressed up as a story?
Caesar III
Member
Got my game today, it's downloading now
Deified Data
Banned
I'm only 5 missions in to the campaign, but so far the objectives have all been pretty diverse. Everything from straight up wiping out the enemy to a timed race for resources to a walled siege.
They even place you in positions that sort of force you to realise how the sides operate:
First human mission goes a lot smoother with their drop down turrets and ability to relocate the turrets.
First goo mission is a lot easier when you realise the goo mother is a mobile extractor (it collects the geyser plumes which it then digests over a period of time so you can just creep over to various resource points growing stronger) as well as a factory and combat unit itself.
First human mission goes a lot smoother with their drop down turrets and ability to relocate the turrets.
First goo mission is a lot easier when you realise the goo mother is a mobile extractor (it collects the geyser plumes which it then digests over a period of time so you can just creep over to various resource points growing stronger) as well as a factory and combat unit itself.
Deified Data
Banned
Beta mission 5...noooope.
I'll entertain your notion of destroying these scattered goo nests, but I'm not going to hunt down those remaining mother goos. They can survive a Ruk nuking to the face and just slither off to recover before I can nuke them again, if I'm even lucky enough to find them again. That in and of itself wouldn't be too bad, were it not for the fact that they keep reproducing. The mission ceased being fun when I realized that by the time I find another mother, on the opposite end of the map another one is going to pop up. This is pure-grade tedium.
Probably done with the campaign unless it delivers in huge ways down the line.
No how on earth do you do that?
I'll entertain your notion of destroying these scattered goo nests, but I'm not going to hunt down those remaining mother goos. They can survive a Ruk nuking to the face and just slither off to recover before I can nuke them again, if I'm even lucky enough to find them again. That in and of itself wouldn't be too bad, were it not for the fact that they keep reproducing. The mission ceased being fun when I realized that by the time I find another mother, on the opposite end of the map another one is going to pop up. This is pure-grade tedium.
Probably done with the campaign unless it delivers in huge ways down the line.
No how on earth do you do that?
CommandThrower
Member
Build a repair pad. Believe it or not, the Hand of Ruk counts as a ground unit. Once you do that, you can keep your Hands of Ruk healthy for killing some Goo.
Also, bulding a medium hub with two hangars and 6-8 bomber jets will help immensly with taking out those pesky Mother Goos. Just be aware that in the top right corner of the map is where the Goo are concentrated the most. Bringing your Hands of Ruk to help quell that section of the map will help a lot.
There will come a point where eventually you won't have to worry about your base defense, and you can just invest all your resources and squad cap on units specifically to take out the straggling Goo. Also remember that your Hands of Ruk can also pump out units. Once I have them on the attack, I just have them rotate between two Predators and two Stalkers and rally them right on the Hands so that they join the fight immediately.
It is tedious, but you can get through it.
abracadaver
Member
Why is the steam version more expensive than retail?
Intheflorsh
Banned
You don't need to kill the entire enemy base at the end of Beta mission five, you just need to fly the Ruk over it and you'll succeed.
Deified Data
Banned
That's mission 4.
I switched to easy for this mission. I feel your pain.
Deified Data
Banned
Finally beat mission 5. I've found it's won or lost at around minute 15-20. The rest is just mopping up. Very tedious mopping up. Setting a few more patrols up besides my Hands of Ruk made all the difference.
Interfectum
Member
Holy... shit. The final mission in the campaign (5th Grey Goo mission) is rough as hell. Easily the hardest mission in the game.
Save early, save often.
Save early, save often.
Holy... shit. The final mission in the campaign (5th Grey Goo mission) is rough as hell. Easily the hardest mission in the game.
Save early, save often.
Looks like they took it to the next level of being tough in singleplayer haha. They uploaded a video that there AI is adaptive and there learning what your are doing.
CommandThrower
Member
Holy... shit. The final mission in the campaign (5th Grey Goo mission) is rough as hell. Easily the hardest mission in the game.
Save early, save often.
Goodie.
Won't be able to play this until Tuesday, so I will wait and see what crazy things that mission throws at me.