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[PlayerPurple]

While a $299 next-gen console is great, I’ll admit that the lack of disc drive is the only thing that kills the deal for me.

As an XB1X owner (which is now discontinued), I would’ve easily upgraded from that to some type of XSS+ for $349 that had a 4K disc drive, just to get the next gen upgrades that I thought I’d be getting on XB1X (Sea of Thieves 60fps and proper Dolby Vision support, for example).

How about you guys? What’s your sweet spot feature set/price for a next gen Xbox?

EDIT: Remember that "Xbox Series V" fake from a few months ago? If that had been real, $349, and had a disc drive, I would've upgraded my 1X for it easily.

 

[too much eslim]

If there is a demand they might

 

[The Pleasure]

Series s is gonna hold back the x big time. But that price point. Wow. PS2 memories flooding back in.

 

[Nikana]

The minute you start adding to the base price of it you start creeping into the series X territory. $299 is the story with series S. Anything more and it makes far less sense to a consumer.

 

[diffusionx]

They don't want Xbox One X owners to "upgrade" to a Series S, obviously. They want the owners of their high end machine to upgrade to the new high end machine.

 

[Empire Strikes Back]

I’d be sad for the developers having to optmize for one more SKU.

 

[Kssio_Aug]

I think Series S is fine as it is. I find it hard to justify something between it and the Series X.

But I do believe we will have mid-gen upgrades such as Pro and One X, and it might happen for both SS and SX. When games struggle to make good RT in 4K there's gonna be a demand for it.

 

[Warnen]

I'd get as a 2nd console for a room or kids.

 

[Gormond]

Are they adding Dolby Vision for BD playback on the XSX?

I recall they said they were with the X1X but never did.

 

[deriks]

One more is too much of a problem

Remember that the One S and One X still are on the market and not everyone knows stuff. Microsoft stopped the One X, but for now, not the S. So you have an Xbox One S, a Series S and a Series X. Can you imagine explaining this to your 50 yo mother?!

I agree that the Series S should have a disc drive since the creation of it, but this is not the timeline that we have this - or the time itself. Maybe the Series S and X will have a second gen!? We don't know yet, but there's nothing that scratches the possibilities

 

[Fbh]

A disk drive is always a plus, so sure. I can understand why MS wouldn't want to have 3 SKU's though.

And personally, at that point I'd rather just wait a bit, save up an extra $150 and get the actual next gen Series X

 

[jshackles]

There are already too many Xbox SKUs, let's not encourage any more confusion if we can help it.

 

[MiguelItUp]

I think it would be too excessive. They have two consoles, that's already a bit much more some devs and pubs. But three would be too much IMO.

I will say I still think it's really cool that Microsoft at least offered choices.

 

[MarkMe2525]

That is what the series x is for.

 

[Andodalf]

There are already too many Xbox SKUs, let's not encourage any more confusion if we can help it.

They have 2 Next gen SKUs and how ever many Xbox One S are left. Sony also has 2 next gen SKUS and how ever many PS4 Slims are left.

 

[sublimit]

I'm pretty sure 3rd party developers would love to have another weak ass model to have to port their games to!

 

[Orta]

Should have taken a bigger hit and launched the Series S at $200 then nobody would (or should) have given a shit about the lack of disc drive or low storage.

 

[Kupfer]

Microsoft binds the customer with the S to the store, the gamepass and digital content. This way the console pays for itself again, while the X can also be used to play used games or games from rental shops. That is why there will be no S with a discdrive.

 

[Pejo]

only if they further confuse the naming convention by calling it something like Xbox Series S eries X XL

 

[DarkMage619]

They don't want Xbox One X owners to "upgrade" to a Series S, obviously. They want the owners of their high end machine to upgrade to the new high end machine.

This is true. The X1X upgrade path is the XSX not the XSS.

 

[PlayerPurple]

Are they adding Dolby Vision for BD playback on the XSX?

I recall they said they were with the X1X but never did.

Not confirmed, unfortunately.

Dolby Vision for games was working on XB1X in internal testing but was never released publicly.

 

[Aladin]

Microsoft binds the customer with the S to the store, the gamepass and digital content. This way the console pays for itself again, while the X can also be used to play used games or games from rental shops. That is why there will be no S with a discdrive.

You can share gamepass and digital library with 2 or 4( I am not sure ) other consoles. Xbox is value.

 

[chonga]

I would get one as a second console, yes. I think they gimped it a little too much.

 

[VincentMatts]

I know they did this for price, but the xbox series S should have been: 6TF, 12GB, 500 GB SSD. That would have allowed it to be 4k60 just like the one X.

 

[danielJackson]

While a $299 next-gen console is great, I’ll admit that the lack of disc drive is the only thing that kills the deal for me.

As an XB1X owner (which is now discontinued), I would’ve easily upgraded from that to some type of XSS+ for $349 that had a 4K disc drive, just to get the next gen upgrades that I thought I’d be getting on XB1X (Sea of Thieves 60fps and proper Dolby Vision support, for example).

How about you guys? What’s your sweet spot feature set/price for a next gen Xbox?

If it would have disc drive + support for more xbox OG games = I would considered it as BC box + for those few xbox exclusives. Digital only is just too expensive, as almost all xbox one games are like 5-10€ new/used and have been much cheaper as ps4 games because they are not popular at all. So disc drive would make it easy to have super cheap machine. And SSD is too small also for my taste so it is just too expensive as whole as 2nd system

So if I buy one for bc, I just get used one x as they are like 100e on good condition cheapest

 

[dano1]

If the price gets any closer to the PS5 digital I’m pretty sure gamers will definitely just go real next Gen. And pretty sure they already are

 

[ZywyPL]

There are already too many Xbox SKUs, let's not encourage any more confusion if we can help it.

No, we need MOAR!

-XSS
-XSS w/ disc drive
-XSS w/ 1TB SSD
-XSS w/disc drive and 1TB SSD
-XSX
-XSX w/o disc drive
-XSX w/ 15TF GPU
-XSX w/o disc drive and w/ 15TF GPU

 

[JimboJones]

Current model keeps Series S branding away from retail game boxes.

 

[JCK75]

While a $299 next-gen console is great, I’ll admit that the lack of disc drive is the only thing that kills the deal for me.

As an XB1X owner (which is now discontinued), I would’ve easily upgraded from that to some type of XSS+ for $349 that had a 4K disc drive, just to get the next gen upgrades that I thought I’d be getting on XB1X (Sea of Thieves 60fps and proper Dolby Vision support, for example).

How about you guys? What’s your sweet spot feature set/price for a next gen Xbox?

I'm with you, the only reason I got an Xbox One S back when it launched was it was the best deal on a UHD Blu-ray player around, not having that holds it back in my book.

 

[the_master]

My hope would be for series X to take the place of the S with the same price, the S to become discontinued, and a new series taking the lead in place of the X. The series Z, for example.

 

[Radical Dreamer]

I don't know, I'd rather wait for Xbox Series S+ 4Matic Coupe

 

[GHG]

If the plus means they cancel the current S and the new version has at least 6TF and power without the drop in memory bandwidth then I'm all for it.

 

[Sleepwalker]

IMO they'll drop the XSX to the price (or close) of the XSS midway through the gen, discontinue the XSS and then release the "pro XSX"

 

[RoadHazard]

At that point you're only $50 away from a PS5 DE. And while that doesn't solve your issue (disc drive), I think most people would view the latter as a much better value. So this wouldn't make business sense for MS. The XSS is so much weaker GPU-wise, there needs to be a substantial price gap between it and the next console up for it to make sense (IMO $100 isn't even enough to make the S seem worth it).

 

[truth411]

While a $299 next-gen console is great, I’ll admit that the lack of disc drive is the only thing that kills the deal for me.

As an XB1X owner (which is now discontinued), I would’ve easily upgraded from that to some type of XSS+ for $349 that had a 4K disc drive, just to get the next gen upgrades that I thought I’d be getting on XB1X (Sea of Thieves 60fps and proper Dolby Vision support, for example).

How about you guys? What’s your sweet spot feature set/price for a next gen Xbox?

At that a $349 Price point, it would be DOA since its only $50 cheaper than the PS5 D.E.

 

[NoMoChokeSJ]

That already have one.. its called the series X

 

[M1chl]

The minute you start adding to the base price of it you start creeping into the series X territory. $299 is the story with series S. Anything more and it makes far less sense to a consumer.

Well XSS + 1TB card is more than XSX. It's hardly make sense now, it might in future with cheaper drives.

 

[Stuart360]

XSS is fine, it is what it is, and its not targeted at the hardcore crowd.
If someone wants something better than XSS, just buy XSX.

 

[Moogle11]

Probably better to keep to two skus. Maybe think about it if they do a mid gen refresh as they could just refresh both skus at the same time I suppose.

I did find it a tad odd that the S lacked a UHD drive. I get that it's the cheaper model and that cuts some costs of course, but it can't be that much and a lot of budget gamers (who are a big part of the market for this) probably prefer physical games so they can buy cheaper used, loan to/borrow from friends, sell/trade games when they're done to lower expenses some etc.

 

[Nikana]

Well XSS + 1TB card is more than XSX. It's hardly make sense now, it might in future with cheaper drives.

Expansion card isn't required by any means.

 

[justiceiro]

This is just stupid. Even a 32x attachment makes more sense.

 

[PlayerPurple]

At that point you're only $50 away from a PS5 DE. And while that doesn't solve your issue (disc drive), I think most people would view the latter as a much better value.

Better value? I’m really not seeing how.

Things a $349 XSS w/ disc drive would have that a PS5 DE wouldn’t:

• 4K Blu Ray Movie Support
• Dolby Atmos/Vision for Gaming/Streaming Apps
• Disc based games (lower prices)
• Disc based & enhanced BC stretching back to OG Xbox.
• Access to Xbox Game Pass, an amazing value in and of itself.

I’m not sure all of those tradeoffs would be worth the “more power” you’d get from PS5 DE for $50 more, if we’re strictly talking about value.

 

[RoadHazard]

Better value? I’m really not seeing how.

Things a $349 XSS w/ disc drive would have that a PS5 DE wouldn’t:

• 4K Blu Ray Movie Support
• Dolby Atmos/Vision for Gaming/Streaming Apps
• Disc based games (lower prices)
• Disc based BC stretching back to OG Xbox.
• Access to Xbox Game Pass, an amazing value in and of itself.

I’m not sure all of those tradeoffs would be worth the “more power” you’d get from PS5 DE for $50 more, if we’re strictly talking about value.

Things a PS5 DE has that an XSS with disc drive wouldn't:

• Vastly superior graphics performance
• Vastly superior SSD (with more space)
• 3D audio using regular headphones (a good Atmos setup isn't cheap)
• Sony 1st party exclusives
• Etc

 

[dorkimoe]

No more skus. Buy an x then

 

[Calverz]

Op no......just no...stop.

The xbox series s is fine. The series x is the console for you.

 

[MrS]

People really still not grasping how much more difficult these extra Skus make game dev, huh?

 

[Astral Dog]

They called it Xbox Series X

But i agree the lack of disc drive is a joke and made me avoid the Series S

 

[wolffy71]

It wont see an extra sku, it will see a price cut. That console is to attract people that arent already console owners imo. Just basically that console and gamepass is the idea for them i think.

 

[soulbait]

You mean a Xbox Series X?

 

[LectureMaster]

As if the name is not awkwardly long enough lol.