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HP "software timebomb" disables 3rd party ink cartirdges
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I hated printers and printer companies before, but this is on another level of annoying.
How is using someone elses (usually cheaper) printer cartridges in your printer protecting your IP? All you're doing is screwing over customers even more than you've tried to.
It doesn't help as well that half the time it's cheaper to buy an entirely new printer than it is to refill the ink if it's a desktop one.
How is using someone elses (usually cheaper) printer cartridges in your printer protecting your IP? All you're doing is screwing over customers even more than you've tried to.
It doesn't help as well that half the time it's cheaper to buy an entirely new printer than it is to refill the ink if it's a desktop one.
thekonamicode
Member
Don't care for HP printing hardware personally. VERY happy with Kodak and Cannon.
I'm guessing their logic would be that third party ink cartridges might not deliver the same quality as their own therefore damaging their brand.
Still a douche move tho
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
They fixed that loophole. New printers don't come with full sized and fill carts like the refills you buy.
Leona Lewis
Banned
The original sin was self-inflicted, by buying an HP printer in the first place.
Brother for life.
Brother for life.
Randomizer123454444
Member
I'm glad to know that as a company their priority is not to provide me with a good product, but rather to make as much money off me as they can.
The last HP printer I bought seemed like it's sole purpose was to consume ink as much as possible. I'd print like 10 black and white documents and I'd start to get low ink warnings. There's a reason those HP printers are so damn cheap, to get you suckered into buying expensive ink cartridges. Next printer I get is gonna be a black and white laser not from HP. More money up front, but I think it'll be cheaper in the long run.
because they're selling the printers themselves at pretty much zero profit. Their business model is about being the cheapest printer so you'll buy their printer, therefore buying their cartridges. - and consumers tend to look at the upfront cost, mostly, not the price of the ink in the long run.
Third party ink / ink refills completely ruin that business model.
They created this monster themselves, now they're defending it in the shittiest ways possible :/
djplaeskool
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Meanwhile, I could put a brick of charcoal in my Brother laser printer and it works great...
Is this my problem, though?
Should sell their printers at a higher price, then, and not impose dumb fucking restrictions on it.
edit: oh, saw your edit. alright
And they absolutely won't; I know people who have destroyed their printers in a quest for cheaper ink. But ultimately it's about money, because few people would try for non-HP ink if the ink wasn't so ridiculously expensive and printers notorious for saying "refill" when the cartridges still have plenty in them.
Yep I have been pleased with my Brother printers; toner lasted me through college and I've never had any issue with it going on 10 years now.
yeah, i should learn to not submit fist and edit in clarifications to get my personal stance across, later
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
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I think my Brother laser printer will survive me. It's a tank of a printer, but still. It may be the only printer yet to turn me into a murderous maniac with bizarre glitches, print managing and whatnot.
Frankfurter
Member
Prices of original ink are just so damn ridiculous. Not in the market to by a new printer soon, but once I am, I'll make sure to avoid printers that don't leave me the choice to by 3rd party ink.
razgriz417
Member
Saw that article yesterday, so glad we switched to a brother color laser printer instead so we don't have to deal with this bullshit
Just a friendly security reminder. Before you launch that HP into the trash, remember to remove any internal hard drives. Most Home Office printers do not have internal storage, but checking never hurts.
http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/privacy/320343-how-to-securely-dispose-of-a-printer
http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/privacy/320343-how-to-securely-dispose-of-a-printer
sixteen-bit
Member
Shady af
Sho_Nuff82
Member
No, stupid, you're supposed to say "I have no idea what you're talking about, these allegations have no merit."
FrontalMonk
Banned
Even if you decide to go HP, at least be smart enough to go laser. Inkjet printers are beyond worthless. Slow and expensive, I don't know why anyone would ever want one. I have a brother at home that is a hell of a machine, but we use HP lasers at work and I don't really have a problem with them.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Their logic is we want money
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
It just happens to be the only major manufacturer not hellbent on fucking over their customers. It also helps that their products are largely nag-free, specially if you look at their laser offerings.
Edit: I've owned Canon, Epson, HP and Lexmark printers. Not only they all sucked, but at some point I was buying new printers because it was cheaper than buying a new cartridge. My printer-related frustrations came to and end when I bought my beastly MFC-7420.
Sure, it's monochrome and has the footprint of an Honda Civic, but it works flawlessly even with non-official toner.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
How do they know if you've refilled a cartridge anyway?
TheCochese
Banned
That's just evil.
Brother fam, I see you.
Brother fam, I see you.
I purchased third party ink off amazon for my 8620 but haven't installed it yet. I also haven't updated the firmware.
I received an email from the vendor, unprompted, that said if I was having any issues, that they would send out a new chip to put on the cartridge and that would solve it.
Already exists in the business environment.
I received an email from the vendor, unprompted, that said if I was having any issues, that they would send out a new chip to put on the cartridge and that would solve it.
Already exists in the business environment.
BlackGoku03
Member
Since I'm in IT, people always ask me if HP is good... I always recommend staying away from HP anything.
The Albatross
Member
get fucked HP.
My HP printer gives me the warning "NOT SANCTIONED INK" or something, and I tell it to screw off. The ink works fine.
I barely use my HP printer and even though I tried to buy a good, expensive printer at the time, it is a complete piece of shit that over 2 or 3 years has become impossibly slow, constsntly needing to be reset, loses it's wireless connection, always prints test pages before actually printing, and never really works. So the moment this happens I will HAPPILY throw my printer in the dumpster.
I wouldn't even want a home printer, but my wife is a teacher and it's convenient for her to sometimes print stuff at home. Otherwise I'd just print everything at work for the rare times I need to print something. I also use it for signing NDAs and contracts, but since I've setup an e-signature I haven't needed to do that.
I believe this has been a business model for ... about... 40 years and it's basically failed. Kinkos, Staples, etc., and then all of the smaller, local printing houses.
My HP printer gives me the warning "NOT SANCTIONED INK" or something, and I tell it to screw off. The ink works fine.
I barely use my HP printer and even though I tried to buy a good, expensive printer at the time, it is a complete piece of shit that over 2 or 3 years has become impossibly slow, constsntly needing to be reset, loses it's wireless connection, always prints test pages before actually printing, and never really works. So the moment this happens I will HAPPILY throw my printer in the dumpster.
I wouldn't even want a home printer, but my wife is a teacher and it's convenient for her to sometimes print stuff at home. Otherwise I'd just print everything at work for the rare times I need to print something. I also use it for signing NDAs and contracts, but since I've setup an e-signature I haven't needed to do that.
I believe this has been a business model for ... about... 40 years and it's basically failed. Kinkos, Staples, etc., and then all of the smaller, local printing houses.
Because these days hey don't make money on the printer. They make money on the refills. They want you to buy the printer so you get locked into the refills so they sell the printer cheap to try to get you.
Last time I bought a printer hp made good ones but I hear they are crap now. But I barely ever need a printer these days (like maybe once a year) so I just borrow my husband's brother laser printer. I hear these days not to deal with proprietary ink cartridge shit you gotta buy a laser printer.
Uh, what? Yeah they do. They definitely tried to do this with coffee pods and you try playing an Xbox one game on a ps4. I think with the coffee that maybe the backlash was bad enough they backed off but I could be wrong.
hammysaurusrex
Member
After a decade of dealing with HP nightmares, both personally and for my family, I've switched over to Canon and have been pleased. By no means perfect, but they're lasting 2-3 years instead of 6 months now.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Huh, I thought they'd already been preventing 3rd party inks from working.
FWIW, when I'm recommending printers to people, I try to steer them towards the Brother 985. Great printer, comes with a full set of ink too.
Don't get Canon unless you're prepared to buy your body weight in ink every year. Gorgeous quality, but by god you pay for it.
FWIW, when I'm recommending printers to people, I try to steer them towards the Brother 985. Great printer, comes with a full set of ink too.
Don't get Canon unless you're prepared to buy your body weight in ink every year. Gorgeous quality, but by god you pay for it.
It just happens to be the only major manufacturer not hellbent on fucking over their customers. It also helps that their products are largely nag-free, specially if you look at their laser offerings.
Edit: I've owned Canon, Epson, HP and Lexmark printers. Not only they all sucked, but at some point I was buying new printers because it was cheaper than buying a new cartridge. My printer-related frustrations came to and end when I bought my beastly MFC-7420.
Sure, it's monochrome and has the footprint of an Honda Civic, but it works flawlessly even with non-official toner.
This man right here is absolutely right. I have been using either Canon or HP for more than a decade. Moved onto HP since 2005, and has been one mini disaster or another. My father and I took a chance with a Brother, and their quality has certainly stepped up. Easily the best printer I have ever used, even with the delays in print prompts sometimes.
I was joking about coffee pods and video games didn't make sense. I guess razor blades is a better comparison.
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