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[Drizzlehell]

I want to call it "Nolan-ifying" Batman villains but with the recent Matt Reeves' rendition of Batman I guess we have one more filmmaker who has attempted to ground Batman in reality.

So anyway, what would be a cool idea for a grounded Batman villain that hasn't been done before?

Earlier today I was thinking about a version of Poison Ivy who, through a combination of experimental research and physical conditioning, built an unusually high tolerance for most plant-based toxins. In this version she would be a botanist reasearcher turned eco terrorist who's known for instigating domestic attacks on the general population using biological weapons. Her master plan would involve a world-scale terrorist attack that would infect most of humanity with a mutated pathogen that would start a global pandemic and cull the population, and it would be her idea of saving the planet from the effects of climate change or some shit like that. It actually sounds like it would be in line thematically with what they attempted to do with the Riddler in the last Batman movie, and it would give Ivy some extra depth instead of her being a bad guy just because she loves plants or whatever.

There should also be a secondary villain that could be involved in her plan, like Dr. Freeze for example. He would be the guy helping out with the technology needed to spread the virus or something, but he would also have a secret agenda, and the only reason he's working with Ivy is to use her research to develop a cure for his dying wife or something like that.

 

[UnNamed]

Batman Vs The People.

Victims' relatives are upset Batman keeps Joker alive they sue him and want him jailed.

 

[Drizzlehell]

Batman Vs The People.

Victims' relatives are upset Batman keeps Joker alive they sue him and want him jailed.

They also boycott him on Twitter.

 

[jason10mm]

Just cut the CGI budget and force them to do it practically. That will almost definitely "ground" the villains because then they can't just paint the entire scene with animation and have to have a much more muted power effect. A Poison Ivy that has just a few semi-mobile plants versus thousands of CGI vines crisscrossing a foot ball stadium while a CGI batman parkours around like a rubber ball, for example. Even villains like Manbat can fit ion a more realistic world if the character is given practical motivations and the transformations are Stan Winston-esque and the fully transformed version is only seen in shadow or whatever. Think of the difference between Jaws and something like Deep Blue Sea. Less can often be more.

 

[Badlucktroll]

Mr Freeze, but with horrible disfigurement caused by frostbite damage. black hands, no nose, ect. a literal “mr freeze”

 

[feynoob]

Corrupted Gordon.

 

[Kilau]

I want to call it "Nolan-ifying" Batman villains but with the recent Matt Reeves' rendition of Batman I guess we have one more filmmaker who has attempted to ground Batman in reality.

So anyway, what would be a cool idea for a grounded Batman villain that hasn't been done before?

Earlier today I was thinking about a version of Poison Ivy who, through a combination of experimental research and physical conditioning, built an unusually high tolerance for most plant-based toxins. In this version she would be a botanist reasearcher turned eco terrorist who's known for instigating domestic attacks on the general population using biological weapons. Her master plan would involve a world-scale terrorist attack that would infect most of humanity with a mutated pathogen that would start a global pandemic and cull the population, and it would be her idea of saving the planet from the effects of climate change or some shit like that. It actually sounds like it would be in line thematically with what they attempted to do with the Riddler in the last Batman movie, and it would give Ivy some extra depth instead of her being a bad guy just because she loves plants or whatever.

There should also be a secondary villain that could be involved in her plan, like Dr. Freeze for example. He would be the guy helping out with the technology needed to spread the virus or something, but he would also have a secret agenda, and the only reason he's working with Ivy is to use her research to develop a cure for his dying wife or something like that.

Just need Bane as her henchman and you are all the way back to Batman & Robin.

 

[IDKFA]

I'll have a go.

Man-Bat is just a regular dude like Batman, but highly skilled in martial arts and is super intelligent. His parents were also killed by a criminal, but unlike Batman he kills anybody who breaks the law. Not just hard crimes either. He'll kill an old woman for littering or some dude for not paying their taxes.

To make him more believable, rather than being some half bat half human hybrid monster, he's just a human with the skin of hundreds of dead bats sewn to his body. He doesn't talk either. He just makes bat sounds like chirps and screams while pretending to fly.

 

[DKehoe]

Condiment King. A guy who runs a very expensive food truck and only takes cash, no cards.

 

[Daneel Elijah]

Evil Clark Kent. No need for Superman, just a journalist as good as Clark/Lois that will do all it( he or she) can do to find Batman identity. Between the protection of being legally in the right, but still doing reprehensible stuff to have scoops, and the pressure that a person good enough to possibly find out, plus all the mayhem that can be caused by writing about all of gotham other bad guys, that would want to kill it before they are next on the morning news...
Or the Marvel way. Anti Batman. So someone like Oliver Queen. But the best stories from batman are when he is allowed to fail, to not be the bullshit overprepared guy that always have a plan and can go against Superman and Darkseid. And only the Joker have the same level of plot armor that Batman has. So good luck to have a grounded ennemy that have to be considered equal to Batman when outside of the Joker, only a few non augmented humans can be close to him.

 

[E-Cat]

Hot about like a Madoff-type pyramid scheme guy, or a political lobbyist?

 

[E-Cat]

Condiment King. A guy who runs a very expensive food truck and only takes cash, no cards.

Sounds like a Seinfeld episode.

 

[DeceptiveAlarm]

Greta Thunburg. No way the batmobile is carbon zero.

 

[kondorBonk]

- Poison Ivy, just an eco-terrorists to the extreme. Could be a lot of fun.
- Mad Hatter: Probably couldn't hold a movie but a quick side villain in an opener could be good. Brainwashing/abducting children.
- Clock King: Was already a really good grounded villian in BtaS and i always wanted more of. Super obsessed with scheduling of every element of Gotham was practically a super power.

Hopefully the Matt Reeves batman is done though. No hate on the actor but that was the worst/least entertaining Batman movie.

 

[FunkMiller]

Killer Croc:

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/ichthyosis/

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318242

 

[Drizzlehell]

- Poison Ivy, just an eco-terrorists to the extreme. Could be a lot of fun.
- Mad Hatter: Probably couldn't hold a movie but a quick side villain in an opener could be good. Brainwashing/abducting children.
- Clock King: Was already a really good grounded villian in BtaS and i always wanted more of. Super obsessed with scheduling of every element of Gotham was practically a super power.

Hopefully the Matt Reeves batman is done though. No hate on the actor but that was the worst/least entertaining Batman movie.

I think they're already making another Pattinson Batman so too late wishing for that, I guess.

It's gonna remain as an off-shoot, though. Independent of whatever James Gunn and his pals are planning for the DC movies right now. Which is fine by me. Not everything needs to be a part of the same connencted cinematic universe or whatever. Joker worked great as a standalone film.

 

[Drizzlehell]

Just need Bane as her henchman and you are all the way back to Batman & Robin.

Actually, the idea came about because I was watching Batman & Robin, lol. I just thought what kind of a premise would make a movie with Poison Ivy and Dr. Freeze better.

Oh, and I forgot to add that I would totally add Barbara Gordon into my version too.

 

[Sleepwalker]

DeathStroke

 

[SirKicksalot]

dude what if alfred was the villain

 

[cormack12]

Any of the rogue agents from Div 2

Rogue Agents

thedivision.fandom.com

 

[bitbydeath]

Bruce Wayne locked in a mental institution after the death of his parents. His foes are all there too, heightened in his mind by his craziness.

 

[AJUMP23]

Mole man would be in the ground.

 

[Happosai]

Riddler goes on a psychotic rampage after Batman asks him, "Why is a raven like a writing desk?"

 

[MayauMiao]

Catwoman, because she's too picky about men and ends up living alone with cats.

 

[jufonuk]

batman with zero prep time, and all that bullshit versus ex SAS who have gone rogue for reasons.

 

[ForAcademicPurposes]

Mole man would be in the ground.

My day has been improved substantially.

 

[Pegasus Actual]

Natbam, he's basically Batman but he's like super dyslexic so he confuses doing crime with doing good and just does a bunch of crimes.

 

[GymWolf]

Handstroke, a dude who fap in public causing mayem.

Mr breeze, a dude terrorizing any citizen who smoke cigarettes with his portable fan

Man-bet, a dude who lost everything at the hippodrome and now want revenge against the city

Brat-woman, your typical trans activist and pedophile that hate the police department

The broker: he laugh like a maniac everytime his clients lose money.

Scarecow, just an ugly, obese woman with bad intentions.

 

[Drizzlehell]

Fuckin' comedians all over the place. You guys should seek a career in SNL.

 

[FunkMiller]

Bruce Wayne locked in a mental institution after the death of his parents. His foes are all there too, heightened in his mind by his craziness.

 

[GymWolf]

Fuckin' comedians all over the place. You guys should seek a career in SNL.

At least put a fucking smile reaction, english is not even my first language

 

[Artoris]

Batman is gay and has always had a crush on Alfred, but Alfred is dying and Batman has to face the four villains of denial, anger, bargaining and depression. Till he finally finds acceptance and he hangs up hi's cloak

 

[AJUMP23]

Do we need a Batman where Bruce deals with survivors guilt?


No we don't.

We need one where he goes back in time saves his parents, then has a picture of him and Robin and he slowly see Robin start to fade away, so he goes back in time and kills his parents.

 

[Slicker than your average]

Batman Vs The People.

Victims' relatives are upset Batman keeps Joker alive they sue him and want him jailed.

The most American batman.i like it

Honestly court room dramas are great. A batman one would be super .

 

[Toons]

Batmans a dude who wears a suit with pointy ears on it to fight crocodile men and guys who take steroids that make him lift cars

I dont need him to be that grounded. Hes a superhero

 

[Plashe]

would something like this count as grounded?

 

[JCK75]

I'm tired of them being too grounded.. give me true Batman with some pretty cool villains like Solomon Grundy

 

[Drizzlehell]

I dont need him to be that grounded. Hes a superhero

As if we didn't get enough superhero shit in the last decade or so.

 

[EviLore]

Pavement Man

 

[Toons]

As if we didn't get enough superhero shit in the last decade or so.

Batman is not absolved from that lol. If you dont want superhero stuff then why do you want batman

 

[Badlucktroll]

 

[Grildon Tundy]

Alfred sees Bruce flourishing from following the latest Gotham health fads, and Alfred starts feeling unneeded.

So Alfred goes all Munchausen by Proxy and starts poisoning Bruce's daily guano supplements that he takes to "become the fear".

But Alfred didn't know what was in the supplements and tried poisoning him with bat shit thinking it'd be ironic, only to create the strongest, most fearless Batman ever.

It ends with Batman saying "Make a wish, Butler Boy" and throwing Alfred off the mansion roof into the courtyard fountain. Alfred takes a wicked 360 header off the basin before dropping in the water. While Alfred floats unconscious, having learned his lesson, Batman says, "How do you like them tangerines?"

 

[Drizzlehell]

Batman is not absolved from that lol. If you dont want superhero stuff then why do you want batman

Because Batman never was about excessive CGI crapfests that permeate cinemas these days. It was more like a detective noir (hence DETECTIVE Comics) with a bit of a pulpy spin on the formula with its over-the-top villains and gadgetry. It actually makes more sense for it to be a more grounded and gritty detective story than bombastic superhero schlock.

 

[March Climber]

Because Batman never was about excessive CGI crapfests that permeate cinemas these days. It was more like a detective noir (hence DETECTIVE Comics) with a bit of a pulpy spin on the formula with its over-the-top villains and gadgetry. It actually makes more sense for it to be a more grounded and gritty detective story than bombastic superhero schlock.

This is why I liked The Batman more than Dark Knight Rises.

 

[Hemingwayoffbase]

I don’t know how, but I’d love to see a Nolan-ized version of Clayface.

 

[Toons]

Because Batman never was about excessive CGI crapfests that permeate cinemas these days. It was more like a detective noir (hence DETECTIVE Comics) with a bit of a pulpy spin on the formula with its over-the-top villains and gadgetry. It actually makes more sense for it to be a more grounded and gritty detective story than bombastic superhero schlock.

Lol.... nah.

Batman may be lower grade than say, the guardians of the galaxy, but hes still a alrgwr than life surprhrro snd has been in his comic books for a very long time. Some of his villains are jst dudes in suits and scientists and terrorists, others are zombies, world breaker level eco terrorists, human animal hybrid creatures and more.

Theres not just one way to do a batman story. You can do a grounded one or you can do a larger than life one.

But we've had the grounded one already. Its not gonna get much more grounded than Nolans stuff was so why bother? This 9d why I'm glad the sequel to the batman isn't saying away from stuff like clayface. We need some of that stuff for batman on the screen. Hes a superhero with a cape. He can be allowed to fo superheroics.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Just take some top level military i.e Punisher type who's gone nuts or something, vs billionaire with home gym

 

[intbal]

Batman vs Herpes

Batman loses

 

[killatopak]

Poison Ivy is an extreme vegetarian activist that kidnaps animals so people wouldn’t eat them.

 

[DrFigs]

The mayor form the last movie starts going after Wayne enterprises. But also he fights dracula.