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Thursday Nov 3rd 05

1 NDS Daredemo Asobi Taisen (Nintendo) Nov 3rd 05
2 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Banchou (Daito) Nov 2nd 05
3 NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo) May 19th 05
4 NDS Tamagotchi (Bandai) Sept 15th 2005
5 NDS Pokémon Torouze (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
6 PSP Brain Power Trainer Portable (Sega) Oct 20th 05
7 NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku (Nintendo) June 30th 05
8 PS2 Wanda and the Colossus (SCE) Oct 27th 05
9 PS2 Marheaven: Arm Fight Dream (Konami) Nov 3rd 05
10 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (Nintendo) Sept 13th 05
11 NDS Super Princess Peach (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
12 PS2 Dragonball Z Sparking! (Bandai) Oct 6th 05
13 PS2 Beatdown: Fists of Vengeance (Capcom) Nov 2nd 05
14 NGC Totsugeki! Famicom Wars (Nintendo) Oct 27th 05
15 PS2 Kousoku Kidou Tai - World Super Police (Jaleco) Nov 3rd 05
16 PS2 Hisshou Pachinko Kouryoku Vol. 1: CR Shinseiki Evangelion (D3) Oct 20th 05
17 NDS Viewtiful Joe Scratch! (Capcom) Nov 2nd 05
18 PS2 Ape Escape 3 [The Best] (SCE) Nov 2nd 05
19 GBA Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters GX (Konami) Oct 13th 05
20 NDS JUMP SUPER STARS (Nintendo) Aug 8th 05

new releases in bold.



Friday 4th Nov 05

1 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Banchou (Daito) Nov 2nd 05
2 NDS Daredemo Asobi Taisen (Nintendo) Nov 3rd 05
3 NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo) May 19th 05
4 PSP Brain Power Trainer Portable (Sega) Oct 20th 05
5 PS2 Wanda and the Colossus (SCE) Oct 27th 05
6 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (Nintendo) Sept 13th 05
7 NDS Tamagotchi (Bandai) Sept 15th 2005
8 NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku (Nintendo) June 30th 05
9 NDS Pokémon Torouze (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
10 PS2 Dragonball Z Sparking! (Bandai) Oct 6th 05
11 NGC Totsugeki! Famicom Wars (Nintendo) Oct 27th 05
12 PS2 Kousoku Kidou Tai - World Super Police (Jaleco) Nov 3rd 05
13 PS2 Hisshou Pachinko Kouryoku Vol. 1: CR Shinseiki Evangelion (D3) Oct 20th 05
14 NDS Super Princess Peach (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
15 PS2 Beatdown: Fists of Vengeance (Capcom) Nov 2nd 05
16 PS2 Marheaven: Arm Fight Dream (Konami) Nov 3rd 05
17 PS2 Minna no Golf 4 [The Best] (SCE) Nov 2nd 05
18 PS2 Ape Escape 3 [The Best] (SCE) Nov 2nd 05
19 PS2 Pachitte Chonmage Tatsujin 9 - Pachiko Mitokonmon (Hackberry) Oct 27th 05
20 GBA Doctor Mario & Panel de Pon (Nintendo) Sept 13th 2005



Saturday 5th Nov 05

1 NDS Daredemo Asobi Taisen (Nintendo) Nov 3rd 05
2 NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo) May 19th 05
3 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Banchou (Daito) Nov 2nd 05
4 PSP Brain Power Trainer Portable (Sega) Oct 20th 05
5 NDS Tamagotchi (Bandai) Sept 15th 2005
6 NDS Pokémon Torouze (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
7 NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku (Nintendo) June 30th 05
8 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (Nintendo) Sept 13th 05
9 PS2 Wanda and the Colossus (SCE) Oct 27th 05
10 NGC Totsugeki! Famicom Wars (Nintendo) Oct 27th 05
11 PS2 Dragonball Z Sparking! (Bandai) Oct 6th 05
12 NDS Super Princess Peach (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
13 PS2 Beatdown: Fists of Vengeance (Capcom) Nov 2nd 05
14 PS2 Hisshou Pachinko Kouryoku Vol. 1: CR Shinseiki Evangelion (D3) Oct 20th 05
15 PS2 Ape Escape 3 [The Best] (SCE) Nov 2nd 05
16 NDS JUMP SUPER STARS (Nintendo) Aug 8th 05
17 PS2 Minna no Golf 4 [The Best] (SCE) Nov 2nd 05
18 GBA Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters GX (Konami) Oct 13th 05
19 GBA Mushi King (Sega) June 23rd 05
20 PS2 Kousoku Kidou Tai - World Super Police (Jaleco) Nov 3rd 05



Sunday 6th Nov 05

1 NDS Daredemo Asobi Taisen (Nintendo) Nov 3rd 05
2 NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo) May 19th 05
3 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Banchou (Daito) Nov 2nd 05
4 PSP Brain Power Trainer Portable (Sega) Oct 20th 05
5 NDS Tamagotchi (Bandai) Sept 15th 2005
6 NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku (Nintendo) June 30th 05
7 NDS Pokémon Torouze (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
8 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (Nintendo) Sept 13th 05
9 PS2 Wanda and the Colossus (SCE) Oct 27th 05
10 NDS Super Princess Peach (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
11 PS2 Dragonball Z Sparking! (Bandai) Oct 6th 05
12 NGC Totsugeki! Famicom Wars (Nintendo) Oct 27th 05
13 PS2 Beatdown: Fists of Vengeance (Capcom) Nov 2nd 05
14 PS2 Hisshou Pachinko Kouryoku Vol. 1: CR Shinseiki Evangelion (D3) Oct 20th 05
15 NDS JUMP SUPER STARS (Nintendo) Aug 8th 05
16 GBA Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters GX (Konami) Oct 13th 05
17 GBA Mushi King (Sega) June 23rd 05
18 PS2 Minna no Golf 4 [The Best] (SCE) Nov 2nd 05
19 PS2 Ape Escape 3 [The Best] (SCE) Nov 2nd 05
20 PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 4 Moushouden (Koei) Sept 15th 2005



Monday Nov 7th 05

1 NDS Daredemo Asobi Taisen (Nintendo) Nov 3rd 05
2 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Banchou (Daito) Nov 2nd 05
3 NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo) May 19th 05
4 PSP Brain Power Trainer Portable (Sega) Oct 20th 05
5 NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku (Nintendo) June 30th 05
6 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (Nintendo) Sept 13th 05
7 NDS Tamagotchi (Bandai) Sept 15th 2005
8 PS2 Wanda and the Colossus (SCE) Oct 27th 05
9 NDS Pokémon Torouze (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
10 PS2 Dragonball Z Sparking! (Bandai) Oct 6th 05
11 PS2 Hisshou Pachinko Kouryoku Vol. 1: CR Shinseiki Evangelion (D3) Oct 20th 05
12 NDS Super Princess Peach (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
13 NGC Totsugeki! Famicom Wars (Nintendo) Oct 27th 05
14 PS2 Beatdown: Fists of Vengeance (Capcom) Nov 2nd 05
15 PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 9 (Konami) Aug 4th 05
16 NDS JUMP SUPER STARS (Nintendo) Aug 8th 05
17 PS2 Minna no Golf 4 [The Best] (SCE) Nov 2nd 05
18 PS2 Kousoku Kidou Tai - World Super Police (Jaleco) Nov 3rd 05
19 GBA Mushi King (Sega) June 23rd 05
20 GBA Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters GX (Konami) Oct 13th 05

 

[Culex]

Poor Viewtiful Joe :-(

 

[Andy787]

No, Wanda, you must continue to rise above the non-game oppressors!

Also, looks like VJ DS is a Capbomb. Another real game bomb on the DS.

 

[ziran]

Poor Viewtiful Joe :-(

 

[Rock_Man]

It´s the second day in the chart for some of those games actually.

 

[Mama Smurf]

I'm still not entirely sure why VJ games are still being made anyway. The first one did quite well, but nothing special, and the second completely bombed. I guess these two really will kill the series.

 

[Tiktaalik]

Capcom thought they had a franchise on their hands with Viewtiful Joe, but it looks like the success of the first game was just a coincidence, not to be repeated.

 

[tetsuoxb]

.

 

[John Harker]

Joe never did all that hot in Japan. Although the anime not making these games a bigger draw is surprising to me.

How good/popular is the anime?

Is it coming to US shores?

 

[Azure Dream]

It's amazing to see new franchises and titles tumble within days, yet just near-constant sales of a 20-year-old NES game. Not even enhanced like SMB DX, just... a NES ROM with a bit of tweaking to fit the resolution better. Nostalgia is a powerful tool.

 

[SantaC]

I'm still not entirely sure why VJ games are still being made anyway. The first one did quite well, but nothing special, and the second completely bombed. I guess these two really will kill the series.

QFT.

 

[elostyle]

the second completely bombed.

That is not true.

 

[ratcliffja]

I really hope Viewtiful Joe does better over here. It's one of my favorite franchises but it's done nothing but bomb since the original was released. Luckily it's arriving here before any of the other big guns in November, so it at least has a week before the torrential onslaught. (that probably made no sense, but I thought it sounded cool)

 

[elostyle]

It's amazing to see new franchises and titles tumble within days, yet just near-constant sales of a 20-year-old NES game. Not even enhanced like SMB DX, just... a NES ROM with a bit of tweaking to fit the resolution better. Nostalgia is a powerful tool.

These games have entirely different audiences with different buying habits. If you were a gamer and enjoyed mario bros. back then but aren't a gamer anymore then the release dates really don't matter as much. You see it in a store one day and want to play that game again you used to enjoy a long time ago and buy it. Even if it's a re-release that happened months ago. Titles that are hyped within the gamer community are of course focused on their release dates.

 

[Mama Smurf]

That is not true.

Well I don't have exact data or anything, but back in January after 2 1/2 months for sale it hadn't even passed 100,000 copies in the US.

 

[elostyle]

Viewtiful Joe (GC): 308,131
Viewtiful Joe (PS2): 93,701
Viewtiful Joe 2 (GC): 115,847
Viewtiful Joe 2 (PS2): 51,992

For a straight sequel that reuses engine and assets, that's pretty good money in the bank

Interesting bit: The viewtiful joe producer/designer or whatever his position was at GDC talked about how viewtiful joe was a "team oriented" project that succeeded in building a new franchise. So I guess that means Capcom didn't really expect it to do well in the first place.

 

[Shaheed79]

What is the first game?

 

[ziran]

What is the first game?

daredemo asobi taisen, it's the multi game package from nintendo:

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=66355&highlight=daredemo

 

[Mama Smurf]

Its not even sold half of the first game's amount yet. And I seem to recall Capcom being disappointed with VJ's US sales, saying it didn't meet their estimates. Personally I think their estimates are bullshit and they should be happy if it sold 2/3 of that amount, but regardless, the sequel's sales must look awful to them.

I wouldn't personally mind if these were the last VJ games we saw for quite a while (noty forever, but if so...so be it), the franchise needs a rest. Clover look like they'll make some great games, but I'm not hopeful of Okami selling either (hope I'm wrong), they really need to pull out some bigger sellers as well as the more quirky titles.

 

[elostyle]

Its not even sold half of the first game's amount yet. And I seem to recall Capcom being disappointed with VJ's US sales, saying it didn't meet their estimates. Personally I think their estimates are bullshit and they should be happy if it sold 2/3 of that amount, but regardless, the sequel's sales must look awful to them.

I wouldn't personally mind if these were the last VJ games we saw for quite a while (noty forever, but if so...so be it), the franchise needs a rest. Clover look like they'll make some great games, but I'm not hopeful of Okami selling either (hope I'm wrong), they really need to pull out some bigger sellers as well as the more quirky titles.

I agree that they are rushing out too many VJ titles. The sequel came waaaaaay too early too. I do think that it made good money on the 150k units in the US. Not many titles sell that much to begin with.

 

[P90]

The Collosi have stubby legs?

 

[NWO]

Also, looks like VJ DS is a Capbomb. Another real game bomb on the DS.

Well seeing as how VJ didn't sell well on the PS2 and Gamecube userbases why in the hell would anybody think this game would takeoff on a handheld with less people?

Shit if the Japanese didn't play the game on the PS2 I was so sure that it would take off on something with less potential buyers! :lol

 

[jett]

Wanda's legs have been effectively slashed. Fuck you japanese gamers.

 

[Aurora]

Nice avatar.

Hmmm... I can't wait for MK release. Wonder what legs it will have in Japan.

 

[Shaheed79]

I think its insane that the DS pretty much owns Japan now. Sales like these really have me believing that the Revolution might actually do something over there besides bomb horribly like the Gamecube.

 

[Mau ®]

SotC should do better than that. It just kills me that the Japanese only buy non-games WTF is with that. They're killing good franchises in the process for fucks sake!

Heck even the only PSP game on the chart is a non-game WTF!

 

[Kroole]

Well WotC could be sold out for all we know. Doesn't Media-create release sell-throughs or something?

 

[Amir0x]

Bai Bai Wanda

 

[Beezy]

Joe never did all that hot in Japan. Although the anime not making these games a bigger draw is surprising to me.

I don't know if it got better since, but the first episode of Viewtiful Joe sucked.

 

[elostyle]

I don't know guys, SotC is not really all that good of an example for classic gaming. And I can also see how someone can be thrown off by, say, it's controls and camera.

 

[P90]

I don't know guys, SotC is not really all that good of an example for classic gaming. And I can also see how someone can be thrown off by, say, it's controls and camera.

As a preface, I wasn't a fan of Ico, so I haven't nor do I intend on playing SotC. I think you make good points.

 

[ioi]

daredemo asobi taisen, it's the multi game package from nintendo:

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=66355&highlight=daredemo

Anyone got any idea how well this has sold? It amazes me just how well the DS is doing, the Japanese are reall buying into it at the moment!!

I can see a few games creeping close to the 1M mark in Japan by xmas (both Brain Trainings, Nintendogs, Wario Ware, Super Mario 64), while the best selling PSP game is still Hot Shots golf on around 400k!!

Amazing.

Maybe the DS will be a return to the SNES glory days when we had games like Street Fighter, Donkey Kong, Chrono Trigger doing some amazing numbers:

http://www.everythingandnothing.org...1=Donkey+Kong+Country&name2=Street+Fighter+II
http://www.everythingandnothing.org...e1=Chrono+Trigger&name2=Donkey+Kong+Country+2

Will be interesting to see how Animal Crossing, Mario Kart DS etc do...

 

[fresquito]

I think VJ series have failed because the milking´s been too obvious. Actually I liked the first game very much, but I hadn´t time to anticipate the second one, not to say the two games that have been released this year.

About non-games ruling Japan. Well, again, it´s all about what you consider a game.

 

[puck1337]

SotC should do better than that. It just kills me that the Japanese only buy non-games WTF is with that. They're killing good franchises in the process for fucks sake!

Heck even the only PSP game on the chart is a non-game WTF!

Nobody's killing anything, because they wouldn't buy stuff like SotC anyway. Do you honestly think that more than a handful of pepole are thinking "Hmmm... I only have a bit of cash - should I buy Shadow of the Colossus, or a Brain Training game for the DS?"

 

[trilobyte]

Capcom thought they had a franchise on their hands with Viewtiful Joe, but it looks like the success of the first game was just a coincidence, not to be repeated.

They lost buyers when they wen't multi-platform from Gamecube. It's sad, but it's probably true.

And the latest milking just makes it worse.

 

[Kroole]

They lost buyers when they wen't multi-platform from Gamecube. It's sad, but it's probably true.

And the latest milking just makes it worse.

... Right.

VJ was a great idea. People obviously wanted a new action side-scroller that wasn't Mega Man or any other of the old 8-bit characters. But Capcom started to milk it too soon. It wouldn't have sold better if they had stuck with the GC.

 

[polg]

I smell another hit with Daredemo Asobi Taisen . It will probably sell very well, at least in japan

 

[cvxfreak]

How good/popular is the anime?

Is it coming to US shores?

I think it debuted on Kids WB yesterday. That should actually help US sales I think.

 

[John Harker]

I think it debuted on Kids WB yesterday. That should actually help US sales I think.

Oh, really?
I'm so out of touch with today's cartoons.

Did anyone watch it, is it nicely translated? That may be worth checking out, do you know when its on Cvx?

 

[..pakbeka..]

Oh, really?
I'm so out of touch with today's cartoons.

Did anyone watch it, is it nicely translated? That may be worth checking out, do you know when its on Cvx?

I heard Joe's voice sucks, I just hope we get uncensored dvds, I head the show is actually good

 

[ziran]

Friday 4th Nov 05

1 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Banchou (Daito) Nov 2nd 05
2 NDS Daredemo Asobi Taisen (Nintendo) Nov 3rd 05
3 NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo) May 19th 05
4 PSP Brain Power Trainer Portable (Sega) Oct 20th 05
5 PS2 Wanda and the Colossus (SCE) Oct 27th 05
6 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (Nintendo) Sept 13th 05
7 NDS Tamagotchi (Bandai) Sept 15th 2005
8 NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku (Nintendo) June 30th 05
9 NDS Pokémon Torouze (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
10 PS2 Dragonball Z Sparking! (Bandai) Oct 6th 05
11 NGC Totsugeki! Famicom Wars (Nintendo) Oct 27th 05
12 PS2 Kousoku Kidou Tai -World Super Police (Jaleco) Nov 3rd 05
13 PS2 Hisshou Pachinko Kouryoku Vol. 1: CR Shinseiki Evangelion (D3) Oct 20th 05
14 NDS Super Princess Peach (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
15 PS2 Beatdown: Fists of Vengeance (Capcom) Nov 2nd 05
16 PS2 Marheaven: Arm Fight Dream (Konami) Nov 3rd 05
17 PS2 Minna no Golf 4 [The Best] (SCE) Nov 2nd 05
18 PS2 Ape Escape 3 [The Best] (SCE) Nov 2nd 05
19 PS2 Pachitte Chonmage Tatsujin 9 - Pachiko Mitokonmon (Hackberry) Oct 27th 05
20 GBA Doctor Mario & Panel de Pon (Nintendo) Sept 13th 2005



Saturday 5th Nov 05

1 NDS Daredemo Asobi Taisen (Nintendo) Nov 3rd 05
2 NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo) May 19th 05
3 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Banchou (Daito) Nov 2nd 05
4 PSP Brain Power Trainer Portable (Sega) Oct 20th 05
5 NDS Tamagotchi (Bandai) Sept 15th 2005
6 NDS Pokémon Torouze (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
7 NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku (Nintendo) June 30th 05
8 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (Nintendo) Sept 13th 05
9 PS2 Wanda and the Colossus (SCE) Oct 27th 05
10 NGC Totsugeki! Famicom Wars (Nintendo) Oct 27th 05
11 PS2 Dragonball Z Sparking! (Bandai) Oct 6th 05
12 NDS Super Princess Peach (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
13 PS2 Beatdown: Fists of Vengeance (Capcom) Nov 2nd 05
14 PS2 Hisshou Pachinko Kouryoku Vol. 1: CR Shinseiki Evangelion (D3) Oct 20th 05
15 PS2 Ape Escape 3 [The Best] (SCE) Nov 2nd 05
16 NDS JUMP SUPER STARS (Nintendo) Aug 8th 05
17 PS2 Minna no Golf 4 [The Best] (SCE) Nov 2nd 05
18 GBA Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters GX (Konami) Oct 13th 05
19 GBA Mushi King (Sega) June 23rd 05
20 PS2 Kousoku Kidou Tai -World Super Police (Jaleco) Nov 3rd 05



Sunday 6th Nov 05

1 NDS Daredemo Asobi Taisen (Nintendo) Nov 3rd 05
2 NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo) May 19th 05
3 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Banchou (Daito) Nov 2nd 05
4 PSP Brain Power Trainer Portable (Sega) Oct 20th 05
5 NDS Tamagotchi (Bandai) Sept 15th 2005
6 NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku (Nintendo) June 30th 05
7 NDS Pokémon Torouze (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
8 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Brothers (Nintendo) Sept 13th 05
9 PS2 Wanda and the Colossus (SCE) Oct 27th 05
10 NDS Super Princess Peach (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05
11 PS2 Dragonball Z Sparking! (Bandai) Oct 6th 05
12 NGC Totsugeki! Famicom Wars (Nintendo) Oct 27th 05
13 PS2 Beatdown: Fists of Vengeance (Capcom) Nov 2nd 05
14 PS2 Hisshou Pachinko Kouryoku Vol. 1: CR Shinseiki Evangelion (D3) Oct 20th 05
15 NDS JUMP SUPER STARS (Nintendo) Aug 8th 05
16 GBA Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters GX (Konami) Oct 13th 05
17 GBA Mushi King (Sega) June 23rd 05
18 PS2 Minna no Golf 4 [The Best] (SCE) Nov 2nd 05
19 PS2 Ape Escape 3 [The Best] (SCE) Nov 2nd 05
20 PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 4 Moushouden (Koei) Sept 15th 2005

 

[John Harker]

uh... where did Viewtiful Joe go?

Mushiking comes back, and Joe dies.

The Joe... is dead.


And the Peach is a dissapointment.

 

[ziran]

uh... where did Viewtiful Joe go?

Mushiking comes back, and Joe dies.

The Joe... is dead.


And the Peach is a dissapointment.

it's sad about joe, it sounds like a great game.

Sunday 6th

1 NDS Daredemo Asobi Taisen (Nintendo) Nov 3rd 05
2 NDS Nou wo Kitaeru Otona no DS Training (Nintendo) May 19th 05
3 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Banchou (Daito) Nov 2nd 05
4 PSP Brain Power Trainer Portable (Sega) Oct 20th 05
5 NDS Tamagotchi (Bandai) Sept 15th 2005
6 NDS Yawaraka Atamajuku (Nintendo) June 30th 05
7 NDS Pokémon Torouze (Nintendo) Oct 20th 05

the interesting thing is the top 7 games for thurs 3rd, sat 5th and sun 6th could be called non-games!

 

[Unison]

Pokémon Torouze is a straight-up puzzle game isn't it? I don't see how a Tetris (or Zoo Keeper, more specifically) clone is suddenly a non-game. . .

 

[lyre]

Pokémon Torouze is a straight-up puzzle game isn't it? I don't see how a Tetris (or Zoo Keeper, more specifically) clone is suddenly a non-game. . .

Anything to talk down the DS I guess.

And the PS2 game is one of those pachinko/slot machine games, not much of a game but not a 'non-game' in any sense. And Wanda is still in the top 10, no one should be complaining. Though I feel bad for Super Princess Peach. There needs to be more love for sprite based 2D games.

 

[fresquito]

Pokémon Torouze is a straight-up puzzle game isn't it? I don't see how a Tetris (or Zoo Keeper, more specifically) clone is suddenly a non-game. . .

It´s been like this forever. When people can´t accept that Nintendo sells well, they begin their stupid speech: Nintendo is for kids, Nintendo makes non-games, Nintendo is always doing the same games... you know, they cannot argue about quality, so they try to argue about trivial things.

 

[Meier]

Pokémon Torouze is a straight-up puzzle game isn't it? I don't see how a Tetris (or Zoo Keeper, more specifically) clone is suddenly a non-game. . .

Or even better: calling something with chess, cards, go, bowling, etc. a "non-game."

 

[elostyle]

Pokémon Torouze is a straight-up puzzle game isn't it? I don't see how a Tetris (or Zoo Keeper, more specifically) clone is suddenly a non-game. . .

It seems that these days, every game that doen't fit the pattern of having the player accomplish goals in 3D levels via a 3rd or 1st person persepective and a weapon in your hand broken up by cutscenes is a non-game.

Also applicable for the "game" status are sometimes titles that have you race in a car or participate in a simulated sports event.

Real games today are also measured on an "quality of experience" scale and not on a "fun" scale.

Spoiler

</troll>

Please remember that games are still a sub-category of toys. There are non-games on the DS, granted, but many of those are great toys.

 

[Unison]

It seems that these days, every game that doen't fit the pattern of having the player accomplish goals in 3D levels via a 3rd or 1st person persepective and a weapon in your hand broken up by cutscenes is a non-game.

Also applicable for the "game" status are sometimes titles that have you race in a car or participate in a simulated sports event.

Real games today are also measured on an "quality of experience" scale and not on a "fun" scale.

Spoiler

</troll>

Please remember that games are still a sub-category of toys. There are a few non-games on the DS, granted, but many of those are great toys.

Yuck. I should head over to non-gaming-age.com . :lol

 

[jamesinclair]

Jump, Peach, Mushi, theyre back!

I love weekends.