remember_spinal
Banned
This guy breaks it down pretty simply, but its just an expansion of what they’ve said before, IP creation and games primarily.
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Kadokawa & Fromsoftware reiterate what their investments from Sony and Tencent mean on their latest financial reports
- Thread starter remember_spinal
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GhostOfTsu
Banned
Lame. Just buy Kadokawa and be done.
The CEO is going to jail soon at 79 so now is the right time
www.japantimes.co.jp
The CEO is going to jail soon at 79 so now is the right time
Kadokawa chairman arrested in widening Tokyo Olympic bribery case
Prosecutors suspect Kadokawa made the bribes to Haruyuki Takahashi, 78, a former Dentsu executive and a prominent figure in the sports business world.
www.japantimes.co.jp
Snowdonhoffen
Member
Bloodborne 2 or whatever FS does next with Demon's Souls graphics
tommib
Gold Member
Bloodborne 2 or whatever FS does next with Demon's Souls graphics
This is not how From Software works.
Hobbygaming
has been asked to post in 'Grounded' mode.
I wonder what the new From Software PS5 exclusive will be
PS1: Armored Core
PS3: Demon Souls
PS4: Bloodborne
PS1: Armored Core
PS3: Demon Souls
PS4: Bloodborne
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I think it is mostly US and UK countries that are treating China as an existential threat (modern Cold War). Other countries are already behind them in influence and economy and do not have that much better relationships with the US as they do in China… or see things such as this and think “well, social score is there too… so?”: https://arstechnica.com/?p=1895355
Oddvintagechap
Member
Bloodborne 2 or whatever FS does next with Demon's Souls graphics
I think it pretty much mean’s they will use the Demon Souls PS5 engine.
Still odd to me that Sony Tencent has a bigger piece.
BabyYoda
Banned
But Japan surely knows the Chinese hate them, their government knows it, I'm surprised their government allowed it honestly. BTW, China are an existential threat, hope you realise that.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
This is not Political-GAF, so we need to leave it at that
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BabyYoda
Banned
Fair enough, God bless the Chinese people though, I'll make that clear. My hope is we continue to get all of From's best games on the PC, if that's the case, then I'll be at least relatively happy.This is not Political-GAF, so we need to leave it at that
I Master l
Banned
I doubt something as big as Elden Ring 2 will end up being exculsive since it doesn't make sense financially for Kadokawa and Tencent
gaming_again
Member
I wonder how much their key person insurance premiums are.
xHunter
Member
Poor Bernd, will not be able to use his main account to comment on this:
tommib
Gold Member
He’s lurking and eating his nails.
Woopah
Member
Maybe they are confident in their relationship with Miyazaki. Sakurai isn't a Nintendo employee and neither are the majority of people who have ever worked on Smash.
worldwithpyramids
Member
It’ll suck to have a From game stuck on a console again.
GhostOfTsu
Banned
The PS5 is powerful enough to run any From game and their PS3 engine at 60fps.
Lucifers Beard
Member
That’s quite exciting. With a bit of clout at Sony, I imagine From could potentially reach higher highs with their already awesome games. Whatever happens I’m looking forward to see what they cook up next.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
You are talking Japan here. Lol they have major beef with China.
onesvenus
Member
It's the second time you post something coming from this guy who, reading his other tweets, is obviously a Sony fanboy.
Last time you didn't answer my questions:
- Why is someone with 1k followers on Twitter an analyst worth sharing?
- Is that your personal account?
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
why are you upset?
Kiraly
Member
He's another of those LARPers just like that "YouTube statistician" account that turned out to be full of shit.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Even if you don't care about his tweets and read only the slides it's clear From Software and PlayStation have quite a close relationship and almost for sure something yet to be announced is cooking. No need to snap like this, lol.
A second party partnership From/XDEV is inevitable. They had one on PS3, one on PS4, it's only natural that after they invested in the studio there will be one on PS5.
Sony is obviously actively trying to have deals with Japanese/Asian developers (see Square, Kojima, Team Ninja, the Stellar Blade developer and I'm sure Sega/Atlus as well with Persona 6).
Sony is obviously actively trying to have deals with Japanese/Asian developers (see Square, Kojima, Team Ninja, the Stellar Blade developer and I'm sure Sega/Atlus as well with Persona 6).
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ChuckeRearmed
Member
I don't see anything changing for From Software aside more investment but that's it. All these public companies want more money after all.
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tommib
Gold Member
Elden Ring says no.
onesvenus
Member
I'm not? I'm against making a thread about any random Twitter account that shares his thoughts.
Of course. Does a random guy on Twitter saying that warrant a new thread? I don't think so but this is a job for moderators
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
PS5 can run Elden Ring at 60fps.....ps4 ver lolz
nowhat
Gold Member
Elden Ring using PS4 BC on PS5 says "ehh, kinda yes, if we're being pedantic and don't care for visual fidelity".
(not that I'm excusing the performance of the game, just that it's technically correct - which as we know is the best kind of correct - to say you can run the game at 60fps on PS5)
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
As if From Software knows how to optimize any game, lmao.
That's more of an issue with the team than the hardware.
If a game like Forbidden West can run at a stable 60fps on PS5, there's no reason for Elden Ring to not be able to do the same.
yurinka
Member
When Kadokawa made the deal with Sony, before Sony acquired a part of FromSoftware, they already mentioned that their partnership with Sony was to help bring Kadokawa developed IP to a global market of games, anime etc. So to market and promote Kadokawa stuff via Sony channels, support them in different ways, etc.
This doesn't imply that this (games in the case of FromSoft) is going to be -all or part or it- exclusive to Sony platforms or that should be published by Sony. But both From Soft and Kadokawa have a long tradition of making PS exclusives since the PS1 days, so it's fair to assume that part of these games will be exclusive, even more after Sony acquiring a part of them.
This doesn't imply that this (games in the case of FromSoft) is going to be -all or part or it- exclusive to Sony platforms or that should be published by Sony. But both From Soft and Kadokawa have a long tradition of making PS exclusives since the PS1 days, so it's fair to assume that part of these games will be exclusive, even more after Sony acquiring a part of them.
Dick Jones
Gold Member
I could read the PowerPoint without a Japanese dictionary. Finally learned the language through osmosis 
Naysayers will claim the PowerPoints were already in English. Fake news.
Naysayers will claim the PowerPoints were already in English. Fake news.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Well, Souls games without microtransactions had a good run
Thirty7ven
Banned
Funny that people thought Fromsoftware would no longer make PS exclusives.
yurinka
Member
Well, it's fair to assume that FromSoft will continue making PS exclusives as they and Kadokawa always did since the first PS.
But Sony making a deal with Kadokawa to help bring Kadokawa IPs to a global market of gaming and anime, or Sony making a minority investment on FromSoft, or this report don't secure that. I'd say that in any case what it secures is that their games will continue to be released on PS.
Sony owning a small portion of Kadokawa and FromSoft means that Sony will get a small part of the profits produced by Kadokawa and FromSoft. So the more profit they make, the better for Sony. Elden Ring made a lot of profit being multiplatform, and would have made way less if it would have been exclusive.
It shouldn't surprise you, it's very common to see Japanese (or from USA or EU) partnering with Chinese companies like Tencent or Netease. The typical case being that the Chinese company invests on the non-Chinese company and helps them to publish their games in China, or making mobile gaming adaptations of their IPs, or to make special versions of the games for China.
As an example, Microsoft made a deal with Netease for Minecraft China Edition, or Blizzard also had a deal with them, or in the case of Sony, Bungie got an investment and deal with them for mobile games. There are tons of examples.
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Gudji
Member
YES PLS glorious meltdowns.
BabyYoda
Banned
They will all likely live to regret it and I won't lose any sleep if it ruins them.
yurinka
Member
Lol! They aren't the monsters that the propaganda makes you believe. I have 3 friends who run western studios that got investments from them (one of them purchased) and others who work in other studios that got also investments or deals to publish in China or got mobile games of their IP made by Chinese teams.
Tencent and Netease only invest on them (meaning they give money in exchange for dividends) and helps them with the publishing and marketing in China, or making these mobile games. That's all, they don't ask them to do anything or to change anything. They simply create win/win situations for both companies.
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ChorizoPicozo
Gold Member
Bloodborne with actual good graphics.
Jinzo Prime
Member
Is it powerful enough to run mods?
People like PC for more than just performance reasons.
DarthPutin
Member
Would not be surprised if they do get new exclusive eventually, and it will be PS5+PC day one. Seems like it would be in style for modern Sony. Or temp exclusive which is ported to XBOX later (ideal solution since we don't want to exclude people).