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KISS held their final concert ever tonight, band has now been recreated as CGI avatars by ILM
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Puscifer
Member
Feels weird that I'm entering the era of AI/Holograms, that 2Pac Coachella recreation was only the start a few years ago and I guess this keeps legacy bands alive far beyond touring capacity. I saw Metallica 2 years ago and easily top 5 shows for but damn, you could really tell their stage show wasn't just for show, they literally can't jam out for 2 hours straight anymore without the light show
Pejo
Gold Member
Miku and those virtual idols have been doing it for 10+ years already in Japan.
Puscifer
Member
True, but there's an appeal that it's an original creation not trying to keep once in a lifetime bands around.
TransTrender
Gold Member
Reminds me of this:
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Thus their avatars can make them money all day while they stay at home.
Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park (TV Movie 1978) ⭐ 4.5 | Fantasy, Horror, Music
1h 36m | PG
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Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
If they were going to play nirvana, would they go to the concert???
I would go.
I would go.
Revolutionary
Member
I mean... Kiss has certainly come a long way in terms of CGI.
...but it still looks kinda bad.
...but it still looks kinda bad.
jufonuk
not tag worthy
ABBA They did the same with a similar tour type thing. With Kiss I’m guessing the band decided to do this, to become a virtual band going forward and well even though I only know a few songs. I know they are legendary. So I don’t begrudge them at all. I think it’s smart. They earned this. It’s easy money going forward I suppose. You can’t deny they put in the work so it’s not a a cheap cash in. It’s a smart retirement
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Lunarorbit
Member
newtypepilot
Member
surprised it took them this long for them to go virutal. They were always good at milking merchandise.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Honestly in a situation like this where everyone involved is on board and it is an iconic Act/Band/Performer/Artist/Musician or whatever other label you want to use I am kind of okay with it. Death is a bitch, but art of any kind can live forever if properly handled and protected. If these artists want their stuff to live on through AI then I am all for it because it is a net gain going forward. It is always better to keep this kind of stuff around than have it be buried under mountains of talentless bullshit.
If iconic acts like Kiss suddenly decide to approve this stuff to cement their legacy while also still providing for their families and their fans beyond their deaths in order to still give a good show then I am all for it. Especially since it comes down to the consumer on whether or not they want to pay for the experience. If they want to spend the money on a reproduction of a previous experience and they go in knowing that is the case then who cares? Its their money.
We are entering an age where "death" does not necessarily mean you are truly "gone" and that in itself is a triumph as far as I am concerned.
If iconic acts like Kiss suddenly decide to approve this stuff to cement their legacy while also still providing for their families and their fans beyond their deaths in order to still give a good show then I am all for it. Especially since it comes down to the consumer on whether or not they want to pay for the experience. If they want to spend the money on a reproduction of a previous experience and they go in knowing that is the case then who cares? Its their money.
We are entering an age where "death" does not necessarily mean you are truly "gone" and that in itself is a triumph as far as I am concerned.
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TheDreadLord
Member
How many final concerts have they done already?
Kenpachii
Member
At some point u need to call it a day as band and just be done with it.
There was a guns and roses concert or however they where called a while back here and everybody was complaining the dudes couldn't sing for shit anymore and it was a bore fest.
It's fine to call it a day. The whole "band is bigger then us" is some delusion right there. The band ends with you.
There was a guns and roses concert or however they where called a while back here and everybody was complaining the dudes couldn't sing for shit anymore and it was a bore fest.
It's fine to call it a day. The whole "band is bigger then us" is some delusion right there. The band ends with you.
Torrent of Pork
Banned
I went to their Farewell Tour 2 years ago, they'll be back.
ManaByte
Gold Member
They reunited the original members in 1999 and then did a farewell tour in 2000-2001, but Peter Criss bailed on them towards the end of that farewell tour. That was more than 20 years ago, and both Gene and Paul were still in their 50s, and Tommy and Eric were in their 40s. They didn't do big tours, but they toured with Aerosmith and did shows. New albums, etc.
But Gene and Paul are in their 70s now. They can't keep doing it. Gene's costume is over 20 lbs and he's 74 now. The two of them are KISS, so they announced their retirement in 2018 and started this End of the Road tour in 2019. Due to COVID it's gone on for nearly four years. These CG avatars is how the band will continue.
The tour has gone on for four years due to being shut down for nearly two due to COVID.
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Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
You imagine that you are introduced to Britney Spears, and when you hug her you discover that she is an A.I. Holographic?I mean... Kiss has certainly come a long way in terms of CGI.
...but it still looks kinda bad.
Morrie’s wig shop
Member
We all knew it was going to come to this point, there was talk of this shit as far back as the 90s…… but then again this is KISS, they are after all, a corporate money making machine for the masses to follow….and it shows in their music…. fight me lol
RJMacready73
Simps for Amouranth
christ that looks fucking awful, imagine paying all that money to go see some CGI screen and a fucking recording at some concert venue... yeah count me out
TheMan
Member
Yeah not even holograms, basically just a concert movie
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Gene Simmons is such a money hungry cunt. There is a zero percent chance that was their last show.
John Marston
GAF's very own treasure goblin
I owe KISS saving me from Disco back in the day.
I've seen 5 of their concerts all with the original members.
It's not KISS anymore, it's the Gene money show.
I love Paul, I miss Ace & Peter but fuck Gene
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RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Is this similar to the ABBA thing?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Of course celebs and media people will do the CGI AI thing to keep it going. Just a matter of who and when. It'll get a point some of them do absolutely nothing except allow themselves to be digitally made by AI for concerts, TVs ads, movies etc....
Taylor Swift is 33 years old. Dont be surprised if she goes the AI route at some point so in the year 2060, she'll still look 33.
Tom Cruise is 61. Guy looks kind of dopy now with all that face botox. He just license out his likeness, tell studios to make him look in his 40s and milk it.
It'll be interesting to see how much consumers catch on to it and accept it no matter how good the AI graphics are. Some people will love it. Some people will say forget it. Tom can be 84 years old. This AI making him look 44 for Mission Impossible 16 is too fake.
Taylor Swift is 33 years old. Dont be surprised if she goes the AI route at some point so in the year 2060, she'll still look 33.
Tom Cruise is 61. Guy looks kind of dopy now with all that face botox. He just license out his likeness, tell studios to make him look in his 40s and milk it.
It'll be interesting to see how much consumers catch on to it and accept it no matter how good the AI graphics are. Some people will love it. Some people will say forget it. Tom can be 84 years old. This AI making him look 44 for Mission Impossible 16 is too fake.
Cyberpunkd
Member
I’m sure family will be super happy for their dad relatives making them money. I love that scene in “Billions”.
Sleepwalker
Member
I owe KISS saving me from Disco back in the day.
I've seen 5 of their concerts all with the original members.
It's not KISS anymore, it's the Gene money show.
I love Paul, I miss Ace & Peter but fuck Gene
Man I miss Dio.
Don't really care for Kiss, never have.
John Marston
GAF's very own treasure goblin
Back in 1990 he dropped by the record store I worked at.
A truly kind and generous person
Giallo Corsa
Member
Their kids/families are set for life, it's infinite money basically...
