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Minter shows off his texture generator
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JackFrost2012
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Needs more arsebiscuits! C-
Shogmaster
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I think Minter has smoked himself stupid.
MightyHedgehog
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Is this GC-only still? While I can't imagine this being all that expensive in its production cost, I cannot imagine something like this selling very well either. If anything, Minter's considerable time investment could be better rewarded by supporting more than one system with what is all but guaranteed to be a mild-selling niche title. This really should be released on the PC, Mac, and other consoles.
Meh, it really isn't going to cost them that much to develop, it's a one man band - just Minter, I don't think they would care all that much if it sold a lot or not, it's more of a prestige title I think that will add to the company's reputation rather than a big seller.
Yes, cube only I believe.
Yes, cube only I believe.
I think Unity is to be the token support for GC from Lionhead. That doesn't mean that Jeff isn't doing the right thing by making it exclusive to one console. He's a big fan of the system personally and has said several times overall the last year or so that the GC is joy to work with. Besides, he's basically making the game himself--production cost have to be peanuts compared to what's being spent on stuff like Fable. If people can praise Itagaki for sticking to his guns with the Xbox, I don't see how Jeff or Lionhead can be criticized for leaving Unity on one system. It's not like the game would ever sell million copies or even 100,000--Minter games are an aquired taste. And in this day and age of triple A blockbuster productions, a psychadelic shooter with what's likely to be a not so gentle learning curve is going to be lost in the shuffle in a multiplatform situation.
This is much more interesting. I haven't been following his Blog for a while now, and he's really making some progress. GREAT!! 
http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?t=18015
http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?t=18015
Bluemercury
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MightyHedgehog said:
Buy a cube......like Drinky Crow likes to say.......
PlagueWielder
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Shooters galore!
shooter + trippy music = Mega!
shooter + trippy music = Mega!
Minter is freaking awesome. I don't think his games have ever sold exceptionally well, so that really isn't a problem. As long as he makes enough cash for a vial and a 10 pack, I think he'll be fine But seriously, he's a developers developer. I dig his work, alot. Can't wait until Unity finally hits.
Now I shall run off to play some Gridrunner (and you should too)
But seriously, he's a developers developer. I dig his work, alot. Can't wait until Unity finally hits.Now I shall run off to play some Gridrunner (and you should too)
MightyHedgehog
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Bluemercury said:
Ummm...had one since launch, thanks. My comment was about the lack of sales that this title is sure to have... I mean, at least Rez was released on two platforms for the reason that it could sell enough to pay itself off.
Bluemercury
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MightyHedgehog said:
Did any of minter games were really sucessful?
MightyHedgehog
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Probably just Gridrunner on the V20.
Agent X
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Bluemercury said:
Several of his earlier 8-bit computer games (for Atari 400/800/XL/XE, Commdore VIC-20, Commodore 64) could be considered to be pretty successful considering the relative scope of the computer gaming market at the time, and the fact that his company (Llamasoft) was basically a one-man operation.
In recent years, his most successful game was almost certainly Tempest 2000 on the Atari Jaguar. It's one of the few notable hits that system had, and eventually got ported to IBM PC/compatible computers, Apple Macintosh, Sega Saturn, and Sony PlayStation (the PlayStation version was slightly enhanced and renamed Tempest X3). Sadly, he probably didn't see much money from the ports (if he even saw any of it at all).
Minter himself also developed another Tempest sequel, Tempest 3000, which appeared on NUON-enabled DVD players (those using VM Labs' NUON chipset). Unfortunately, NUON's release was so low-key that it made even the Jaguar look like a tremendous success story by comparison, so very few people will ever get the opportunity to play it unless it gets magically ported to another platform in the future.
I don't think he has mad e much money in the ports, particularily in the case of Tempest X3. He mentioned recently on his forum that the gameplay of Tempest X3 was purposely "tweaked" so that he could be screwed out of royalities. He's gone from being mildly accepting of the game at it's launch to wanting to avoid thinking about it.
This is probably the only GameCube game developed by one person (perhaps there have been ports from one programmer, though they usually seem to have several). I don't know shit about Minter, but I'm very interested nonetheless. When I have complete creative control over a project (music, animation, etc.), it's always easier for me to express my ideas, given the right tools. The downside is that it's easier to gloss over mistakes (bugs) and get carried away. But I can see Unity being quite a unique and fantastic game, in which case I would definitely buy it.
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Like I need a hole in my head
"I can't help thinking that most of the gameplay of Tempest X3 pre-dates Tempest 2000."
I'm not talking about gameplay shared with the original Tempest. I'm talking specifically about Minter ideas in Tempest 2K. It's not like he's making this stuff up--he learned this directly from a programmer on that project.
I'm not talking about gameplay shared with the original Tempest. I'm talking specifically about Minter ideas in Tempest 2K. It's not like he's making this stuff up--he learned this directly from a programmer on that project.
Jonnyboy117
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DavidDayton said:
That's an exaggeration. He did all the programming...and even that claim has to be followed with a disclaimer. The game had an original team of programmers who were fired or lost the contract (don't know the exact circumstances). Anyway, Goddard was asked to finish up their work, and it was in such disarray that he threw it out and started from scratch.
The artwork, game design, sound, etc. were done by different people.
Hitler Stole My Potato
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This has got to be the dumbest "game" GAF has ever hyped..... and it's by Jeff fucking Minter for Christ's sake. LOL!!! WHY??!?!? I remember Gahiggidy used to make threads about Unity, but back then I just attributed those to the fact that Gahiggidy never played any games and probably just didn't know any better. Contrary to the nostalgic laced memories that seem to float around this place on a daily basis, the last mainstream Jeff Minter game, Tempest 2000, sucked. It was just Tempest people.
Download yourself a winamp plug-in, play some shitty Aphex Twin song, hang a picture of a llama on your wall, and grab your controller and pretend your doing something. You've just played Unity. Congratulations.
Download yourself a winamp plug-in, play some shitty Aphex Twin song, hang a picture of a llama on your wall, and grab your controller and pretend your doing something. You've just played Unity. Congratulations.
Hitler Stole My Potato
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dog$ said:
Oh yes it was. I bought into the hype back in '94 and picked up a Jaguar because of Temepst 2000 and Alien vs. Predator. While AvP turned out pretty cool, Tempest 2000 was a joke, so much so that I honestly wondered if the entire game industry had gone completely fucking nuts in praising this game. It's just Tempest.
I'd have more respect for people hyping Blinx 2 than Unity.
Man the trolling has become mighty strong lately.
And dog$ is right--the hype is not confined to these boards. Actually, I haven't seen much hype for this game on the GAF--every thread that has been about the game ends up like this one. You either have people calling Jeff an overhyped buffoon or you get the obligatory "download Winamp" posts.
And dog$ is right--the hype is not confined to these boards. Actually, I haven't seen much hype for this game on the GAF--every thread that has been about the game ends up like this one. You either have people calling Jeff an overhyped buffoon or you get the obligatory "download Winamp" posts.
Hitler Stole My Potato
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ge-man said:
I'm doing both.
Hitler Stole My Potato
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ge-man said:
Well this has been one of the few GAF Unity threads where quite a few people are actually using common sense and understand that this game will be total dog shit. That hasn't been the case before, outside of a few detractors.
daMandus said:
Really? I enjoy them for the potential it gives me to mock people whose argument seems to be "if you don't like the same games I'm hyped for on virtually zero information about the gameplay based on the fact they were made by a drugged-up coder from the 8-bit days who has a reputation for remaking classic arcade games but putting llamas in them then it must be because you lack imagination".
Sorry to disappoint you, but I love plenty of non-standard games because they bring something exciting in terms of gameplay (or even in some cases graphics). This doesn't make Jeff Minter any less overrated or Unity look any more exciting.